Hope everyone enjoyed the holidays.

I thought you all would find this interesting...I was on my way back from Texas on Sunday and was listening to NPR and heard a re-broadcast of a show call "The Splendid Table." Well as it would be, one of the guests on the show was none-other than our own Jennifer Wayland Smith! She was interviewed about the Hotel Hershey and its spa treatments. Pretty entertaining. If anyone would like to listen to the broadcast, here is the link to it...enjoy:
http://table.mpr.org/rafiles/011124/011124_splendidtable.ram

Ramoncito: Mil gracias por la info. No te molestes en llevarle a mi mama las botellas (pero te agradezco mucho la oferta). Le pedi que las compre en la Europea - creo que esta en el centro no?

Sammy: Me habias dicho que tenias ganas de probar el Fiesta Agave. Here's the deal, le pido a mi mama que te traiga una botella but you have to come get it to Orange County! Any chance que vengan over the hollidays a ver los papas de Elizabeth?

Despite Thanksgiving not being a holiday on this side of the world, I explained the concept of it to Nathalie some time ago and since then we have always had a special turkey dinner on the date. Yesterday was no expection, and I must say it was delicious and special since it was the first time we celebrated with a child at our table. Looking forward to many more.

Happy turkey day to all.

Have a Happy thanksgiving day!!!!!

Yo hoy en vez de pavo, sirvo Paella.
:)
Enjoy the holidays.
Saludos a todos.

Gina B.: Que estas cuidando los carbos, curiosamente y es algo que no todo el mundo sabe el Vino y los Licores son bajos en Carbos. Los mas Bajos son la Ginebra, Whisky y Vodka con Traces <1gramo, El Vino blanco y Tinto, El Ron, Brandy, Cognac, Bourbon y todos los licores alcanzan un Gramo de Carbohidratos por 2 onzas o sea un trago bien servido. Los licores más dulces con chocolate como Mozarts y Baileys alcanzan hasta 8 gramos. Pero cuidado la Cerveza inclusive la Light y N/A tienen hasta 32 gramos de Carbos, por Botella. Tambien te recuerdo que todos licores se hacen con azucar ya que durante el proceso de Fermentación de Vinos y Licores, se convierten los azucares en Alcohol, por lo tanto aunque el contenido es bajo en Carbos, si es alto en Calorias desde 70 hasta 150 calorias por 2 onzas, por eso nos da calor cuando bebemos.
En cuanto a comprar Fiesta Agave en Mexico lo puede encontrar en la Europea o si quieres que me hable y yo te las llevo a tu casa.
Cheers

Paula: Welcome! It seems that you went to Indiana U and stayed forever! I recently watched an old movie about some "townies" in Indiana who like to race bicycles ("breaking away"??) Somehow everytime I see it I remember you and Indiana U. Congrats on your two daughters (nice names too) and your husband. Whatever happened to your dancing?

Cindy: Que paciencia. Good look with your upcomiing trip. Nostrovya (salud in Russian, I think)!

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Hello, testing.

John, Mike Foarde's older brother Tim has an email address listed on my web page, if you want to get in touch with him.

http://home.san.rr.com/smacintosh/AHSClass...mniDirectory/79.htm

Ramoncito: Tienes alguna idea de cuantos gramos de carbohidratos hay en un shot de Tequila? Contiene azucar? Mi mama viene de Mexico en diciembre y le quiero encargar dos que tres botellas. A donde puede comprar tu Tequila?

Does anyone know what ever happened to Mike Foarde? I have been trying to locate him for years with no luck. I think he left in ninth grade. I would really appreciate any leads or information.

Paula: For years I have wondered where and how you where! I'll e mail you inthe next day or so to catch up!!

Elena: Great pics of Sonia. I had no idea she was pregnant! Tell her felicidades from the class of '81. You are certainly a busy aunty these days. Isn't Heather Fraser due in the next month or so with her second one?

I saw Renee Koch Simmermon ('80) and Sally Lawton Meyers ('77) yesterday for lunch. Rene's two boys are growing up fast and they are still so adorable! It is so amazing how quickly time flys and how much catching up we had to do.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Marcie M...where are you? Ann C? Jennifer WS? Jennifer Meaney?

Cindy: My two "hermanas" having babies. I am so excited for you. I am so impressed your learning two new languages. Heck, living in Texas I feel I'm losing my proper English (grin). When do you leave and when do you return. I want to see the picture of Alessa too!

Ana Ceci: Craig and I send condolences to both you and John. Our prayers are with you.

Anacecilia, qué mala noticia lo de tu suegro, te mando un abrazo a ti y a John. I guess a number of us are more or less in the same situation, with our parents not getting any younger -if they're still around.

Fernando, congrats on your second child. Bet you're ready for a child now, heh, heh. Good enough reason to go for another one, Anacecilia, you always learn what not to do with the first one. Bad joke.

Sammy, no relation to Pat McGrath. By the way, no relation to Mrs. McGrath either, a question always seemed to be made by boys at the time.

Rebeca S. thanks for the phone #, but you really think I'd go ahead and phone Peggy W? Come on, this happened in fifth grade! Way too recent. I'll need at least another 30 years. But she'll get fan mail and anonymous calls for sure. In the name of Ricardo Ortega, Cary, and many, many others, thanks for the number.

Gerardo, Christy's email is christinecueto@hotmail.com. Or try ccueto@firmacorp.com.

Welcome Paula.

Cindy, have a great trip, and continue to enjoy the "birth" process!

Hi Everyone! I finally found the Class of '81! My address was turn into the Class of '82 reunion mailing list. I only recognized a few names. I can tell I need to spend a few hours reading up on everyone. It's great to see so many people names again. I'm in Bloomington, Indiana enjoying a good life. I have two daughters, Megan (10) and Kelli (7). My husband Dan, works for Indiana University and I work for the city's Parks and Recreation Department as the Director of Recreation. My email address is mcdevitp@city.bloomington.in.us

John: We haven't left yet, we were supposed to leave this Sat, but INS has held us up for another week to two weeks....but hold onto that tequila! Or we could go through a bottle or two of the 30 bottles of Pisco I have in the crawl space when we get back. I am in the process of learning Russian and Polish as we will need a bit of both. We do have a translator the entire time in Ukraine, but not in Poland. We should have pics of Alessa in the Hula outfit I'll have to email you. She has a flower lay (I don't think that is how you spell it) that she insists on wearing everywhere right now. Halloween was short for us, and somehow the sweatpants and T shirt underthe outfit, kinda took away from the complete feeling. Hmmmm...glad your not thinking of more lame excuses for 2005. Will write more when I get a chance

Cindy: also, I've got that bottle of Tequila waiting to share. Let's set something up...

Cindy: Welcome Back! Tell us all about it. What was Alessa's reaction to bringing Breighton home? How are they getting along? Oh, and BTW, I'm sure Ingrid and I will attempt not to come up with another "lame" excuse for the 25th <g>.

Hello!
Elena, what a precious baby! Apparently they had the same kind of blankets where your nephew was born as where my babies were born in Louisiana. He is a cute little baby, or as my daughter Kirsten would say "He is a cutie petutie!"

Cindy, you know, I got two in diapers right now, its quite a sight when they gotta "go" at the same time, my wife and I each changing a baby! I would not miss changing my babies diapers though!

Anyway, this week's lesson is ready. Like I said, at popular request at the reunion I am teaching, briefly, on the subject of hell. This week's study answers questions like what is hell like? are there different levels of hell? Are there second chances? Anyway, its posted, here's the link:
http://www.quicktopic.com/10/H/5dyGcd9A2TFc/p-1.8.1

Elena: felicidades! Sorry I haven't had time to post, but I have been busy with adoption and getting the house ready for more diapers (and trying to learn Russian and Polish)! Your "hookie" day sounded like more fun than our "hookie" days when we where freshman
AnaCeci: I will have 2 in diapers, and since Yuri (we will change his name to Breighton but keep his middle name, Sergievich) is 51 weeks younger than Alessa...get this, next May, for one week I will have 2, yes 2, 1 year olds!! I can tell you, however, having gone through a few miscarriages and a stressful pregnancy, adoption is also stressful in a different way. I think the important thing is not how many children that you have, but the kind of family you have whether it be one or ten--and that you yourself feel that you are providing the best that you can provide. But talk to me next May when I have the 2 one year olds---, better yet, send me a bottle of that Tequila that Ramon sells for that week...
Tonio: great kid stories as always. So will you have another lame excuse (like John and Ingrid) on missing the 25th? You better not! I still can't believe it went from 7 pm to 5+am. What animals we were!!!

Kelly, my address is llangeral@yahoo.com.

I have moved to Miami in tha last months , please send me your email again and Ill write to you with details.

Gerardo - Christy Cueto is also trying to e-mail you, but has the same, incorrect address that I do. Let us know the correct address....

Mexico 3 - Honduras 0. Fuiiiiii too bad we had to wait until the last game to make it to the World Cup. Pero nos vamos al mundial Japon-Korea 2002.
USA and Mexico in the World Cup..... yeah.
Saludos

Gerardo - I was trying to send you an e-mail last week, and it keeps coming back to me. Did you change addresses? Let me know.....

Don't forget tomorrow, Saturday, is the Arts Fair. School grounds. at 10:00 see you there!

Wow, a lot of messages since I last checked in...

Laurie: Bronte was adorably dressed for her birthday party last weekend. She was wearing the coconut shells pretty much through the entire event and they never ended up on her back! Unfortunately she didn't dress up during Halloween as we were out late concluding our new vehicle purchase that evening. We got back in time to give out candy though not a lot of kids stopped by as opposed to last year. Did anyone else experience that?

Anaceci: Hmmm, to have another child? It is a very personal choice. I must disagree with Georgina (now tell me, is anyone surprised???) that the only valid argument for having only one child is that life is easier for the parents. Having a child, one or more, is not easy and is a task that should not be taken lightly. It is also a very personal choice which should not be judged by others.

Regarding the "Only Child Syndrome," well, that brings up the age old debates of nature vs. nurture, home schooling vs. not, daycare vs. "take personal responsibility for your actions and stay home and take care of that child!", et. al. The outcome isn't always predictable in any situation (though some have better predictability oportunities).

Regarless, whatever you choose, make it John and your's and do everything you can to make it great.

Morna: Welcome back. So where did you end up moving to again?

Antonio: My two year old daughter has learned her ABCs in both English and French of all things. She learned the French version from listening (incessantly I must add) to a music tape that plays songs in both English and its French translation (or visa versa as the song may be). Funny, even though counting is part of the ABC song in both English and French, she does that in English and Spanish. Must be from listening to dad count up to twenty in Spanish in order to keep calm <G>.

A quienes estén interesados en asistir a la Reunión de 82 en Acapulco el 24 y 25 de Mayo de 2002, por favor manden un mail a hazama@sprint.ca

HI guys , I have been trying to get in touch with Christy Cueto, does anybody know how to find her? Please let me know.

Hi everyone. I always read even though I have not been very active in writing.

This one is for all those parents that have children that are learning to read.

Beware that it can happen that your child starts asking you the following: While Mom and Dad are calmly having a coffee in the living room, their six year old son screams from his room, "Mom! Dad! What is that sound of the letter that looks like a snake!?" Mom and Dad answer, "It is ssss, Liam!" Son answers, "Ah! OK!". Thirty seconds later another scream, "Mom! Dad! What is the sound of the letter that looks like the number 3 but the other way!?" The answer from the parents, "It is Eeee, Liam!" Son answers, "Ah! OK!" (Now...here is the tricky part!!!! BEWARE OF THE NEXT QUESTION!!!!!) You hear some giggling from the other room and the question arrives, "Mom! Dad! What is the sound of the letter that looks like a cross!!!!!!" (And then...full out laughter in the other room. And we could not avoid it, full out laughter in the living room.)

And NO!!!!!! We do not leave porno stuff around the house!!!! "Sex" is the generic word in French used in the "Larousse Encyclopedia for Children" for the "genitals" in the section of the "body".

Hope everyone is OK. I am sorry for the losses of some and I congratulate the arrivals (or soon to be arrivals) for the others.

Kisses and Hugs
Toño

Alex M y a todos: Peggy Watts: pwsarason@aol.com

On Sunday I became an aunt again. My sister Sonia had her first baby!! Christopher Steven Wagner. Both mom and son are doing well (despite 24 hours of labor then a c-section!) If you love baby pictures, go to:
http://sns.ciroque.org/SnS/CSW/ChristopherStevenWagner.asp

This note is from Rebeca Sato:
By the way, before you know it, you will be organizing your 25th reunion.I have Margaret (Peggy) Watts phone number. It is (415) 668-2464 I will try to get her correct e-mail address.
Rebeca

Bueno, Anaceci, aunque no me pedistes mi opinion, alli te va . . . GO FOR IT!!!! Aunt Laurie can always use more nieces and nephews :)

Besides, Bill has a big computer with lots of room for lots of baby email photos! I vote for "una mas".

Que metiche soy, ?no?

Hi again! I have been reading the messages (back to Sept. 11). It has been hard to keep up to date on everyone's news.
 After our move on July 24, we have closely resembled an ant hill household. Individual and group tasks are carried out in seeming order and apparently do not stop. As my husband was beginning a new job, we had to rush through the unpacking. Then we had to enroll and get supplies for school. I have been unpacking and slowly decorating the house.
 I am sending out resumes for work ("ridiculum"). My references have been for work done in Mexico, so I have not gotten more than one interview per 11 faxed resumes. As a family "starting over" it will be nice once I can bring in a second income. Our two teenage boys will probably find it more comfortable that way.
  Andrew, the oldest at 16, enrolled with the Cross Country Track Team at his Kempner High School. This is the first year he runs. We had moments of pure joy mixed with pride when he won a medal at the Fort Bend District races. He competed with the Jr. Varsity boys. They placed 7 boys in the first 10 places, so the whole team also came home with a first place team medal. There are moments as these when everything you did seems to be worthwhile.
 Our younger son (Oliver - 13)had a broken arm Sept. 20, so had to watch instead of being able to use his bicycle. It will take a while to heal. He no longer has to wear his cast (Oct. 29), but must re-gain flexibility so as to not hurt anything else. (Doctor's orders).
  Saludos.

Go D'Backs......What a series. Arizona has never experienced a championship before. Tomorrow the city will be having a victory parade for the team.
Saludos

Alex M: Your brother Robert graduated in 1972? My brother remembers a Pat McGrath in 1972.

Alex L Gracias.

Ingrid, Gracias.

Geor, tienes mucha razon.

Alex J. So are you happy about the world series or what?

Ingrid - How lucky you are to get that many hours of sleep, in a row!!! She really IS an angel!

How do you pronounce her name, and how did you come by it?

 Un millon de disculpas, Anaceci! Please tell John I am sorry I haven't said anything until now! No se si te has dado cuenta, pero a veces me desconecto por un rato, cuando regreso al chat, I quickly peruse the messages and I miss alot of what is going on. I was just thinking, when I read your message and the condolences on the immediate vicinity, "what happened?" I went looking for your message, but I couldn't find it. I gather John's dad passed away, and your dad passed away within 19 months. It is very difficult to find words of comfort when somebody has gone through the loss of a loved one, I can only share with you the comfort that I have found when times of sorrow have come into my own life. My dad, whom you knew, died in 1992, he was not sick, he was just an old man, truly a good man. Like yourself, I was very sad, but in my sorrow I found peace in the promise Jesus spoke so many years ago,
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Anaceci, and John, let me assure you, that if you do what He says and come to Him by faith with your sorrow, you will find out for yourselves that Jesus indeed spoke the truth, He will lift your burden and truly give you rest. My condolences.

Hola a todos!
Anacecilia, my condolences. Recien me entero.
Estoy de acuerdo c/ Georgina, porque lo veo con Laura y Gema. Ellas se hacen compania, y cuando estan solas se extranan. animate!!
Yo en el momento que pueda, encargare para Xanique.
Que por cierto, esta cada dia mas linda!!
Duerme de 6 a 8 horas seguiditas. Come como 10 Oz por comida. Me saco la leche ya que no se puede coger de mis pesones todavia. Es verdaderamente un angelito.

Me despido porque ya se desperto para comer.
Saludos,
Ingrid

Ana: Te imaginas no tener a Memo? En mi opinion es dificil unicamente muy al principio. Una vez que son personitas y no bebes es mucho mas facil. El unico argumento valido en favor de tener un solo bebe es que life is much easier for the parents during the first few years but after that... the single child syndrome! Animate!!! You will be able to handle it for sure. Eres increiblemente inteligente and you have a great stable marriage. That's all it takes!

A todos. gracias por sus condolences. It was sudden, we really didn't expect that now. I guess there is never a "right time". Nobody really prepares for loosing a dad. It hurts when it is somebody elses, but when it is your own, it is devastating. Unfortunately, John and I have experienced this within just 19 months from each other and I can only say that at this time we are both very sad.

Alex L. "Man of God", How come I haven't heard from you? Anything you'd like to say?

On a lighter note, lo que dices Geor of having a baby with a toddler, well it makes sense. I just don't know if I would be able to handle it! The idea of just one sounds more apealing as time goes by.

Laurie, if you and Bill want to come, you are welcome! solo avisame para que estemos. Dile a Carol que me escriba porfa.

Sammy, felicitame a Sarita.

Cindy: Congratulations. I can't believe how fast you guys went through the adoption process.

Anaceci: Please pass my condolences to John. Was he ill or was it sudden?

Dominic: You made my day with your message. Thanks for the recommendation :)

Georgina: Sarita turned 5 yesterday. We celebrated last Sunday and had a great time. Tonight we had a blast trick or treating. How was it with Rebecca?

Disculpen a la metiche por favor.

Anaceci, I'm so sorry to read about John's Dad. Wow, you've had a rough last few years, but you and your family is dearly loved by the entire Gabriel family and you're in our thoughts and prayers. Bill sends his condolences too.

You married in 96? Wow! That's the last time we went to Mexico, no wonder Bill is having withdrawal symptoms!
!Fuistes una novia bellisima!

I bet Julia will look adorable for Halloween, mandanos una foto por favor.

John Bauer, I laughed at the idea of the coconut shells on your daughter! I can imagine those things ending up on her back by the end of the day!

Fer: Mil felicidades! My children are close in age and even though the first two years were extremely difficult, it is now much easier. It's great when they play together. They look after each other all the time. Don't be surprised if when the baby comes, the first year you think "what have we done??!!". Going from one to two is huge! As a friend of mine told me when my second baby was born - you don't really start parenting until you have two! It is so true! But I cannot imagine life without my brother or our daughter without our son! And don't forget to be very good to your wife especially when she's 9 months pregnant and trying to keep up with a toddler! Now that was hard!

Cindy: Thanks for asking, Julio is good. He just celebrated his 40th b-day yesterday! He visited ground zero last week and told me that the hardest part was seeing all the photographs and flowers that are everywhere in the area. He said "...forget the buildings, it's the thousands of people that are gone. It really hits you when you see the pictures..." The Halloween party was great. The kids put on a little show and a parade. It was absolutely adorable! My photo camera didn't work (out of battery!) but I took video. I will take pictures of them tomorrow and I'll send them to you. They are sooo excited about tomorrow!

ANACECI:
I AM GLAD I COULD MAKE YOU LAUGH, SALUDOS A TU MARIDO Y HIJA. POR CIERTO, INCREIBLEMENTE, LA PELOTA QUE LE REGALASTE SIGUE VIVA.

MIKE B:
I WISH I COULD RECOMMEND NON-ALCOHOLIC BEERS BUT I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN THAT FIELD. MY SISTER DRINKS A GERMAN NONA CALLED "BECKS BECK" THAT SHE REALLY ENJOYS.
I AM SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH KNOWLEDGE THERE IS ABOUT NONA'S IN THIS CHAT. IT'S GREAT TO KNOW EVERYONE CAN TOAST TO THE GOOD THINGS IN LIFE.

HAPPY PUMPKIN NIGHT TO EVERYONE!!

DOMINIC

Anaceci: Sorry to hear the news. Please extend my condolences to John. Besos a Julia

Alex L.: Pues si, siguen creciendo los Alex. Felicidades por tus tres bellos hijos.

Saludos

Edited by author 10-30-2001 03:41 AM
Hello, my friends! Fer. felicidades por tu proximo hijito o hijita! Que buena honda! My wife and I love our babies so much we were toying with the idea of having just one more!
Alex J. felicidades con to pequeno Alex, como es posible? Tu y yo somos tocayos, y nuestros hijos son tocayos tambien! Como vez?!
Cindy P. Let me commend you on what you are doing, that is a beautiful thing! You will be a blessing to that little child! Its a big responsability! But I'm sure you know what to expect being a mom already! All you need is love!
Speaking of little kids, my lil' Alex is beginning to talk alot! He loves to sit on the side of the door or by the sofa on the carpet and to say "dit down me!" (sit down with me) then if I am sitting, he says "I want dit down you!" (I want to sit down with you!)When I say he talks alot, I mean he talks too much sometimes. The other day I was walking around in my house without a shirt, he looked at my chest and asked "boobies?" to which I promptly responded "No son, these are pecs!" (for crying out loud!). And Karaleigh is now six months old, and she is so beautiful and fat I can't help but munch on her rosy cheeks! She laughs and laughs and coos and coos! I love my baby girl! And it is quite an adventure to have two babies in diapers at the same time! My older girl, my princess, Kirsten, has a baby doll exactly the size of Karaleigh. Now, Alex, he is a riot! He loves to play in the toilet so much I think he is going to be a plumber, and he loves to throw all kinds of stuff down the stairs to see it either bounce or brake. Well, the other day I was at the bottom of the stairs when I saw little bitty Alex, he will be two on November 11, coming out of my room, which is right next to the top of the stairs, he came out of the room struggling to carry a baby, he went to the edge of the stairs and threw the baby down the stairs! The baby went tumbling and bouncing down the stairs! I almost had a heart attack! After I pushed my stomach back in through my mouth, I realized, with a sigh of relief, that the baby was Kirsten's baby doll and not Karaleigh. Its an adventure being a dad!
Anyway, just to let you know I have posted the first lesson on my new site "About the Bible". Since at the reunion each one of you with whom I spent time talking invariably turned the subject to the Lord and all of you had questions about hell, the first three lessons are about hell. This weeks lesson is entitled "The Fact of Hell", which will be followed by "The Justice of Hell" and "How to Avoid Hell". I am doing this subject at your request, since you all were asking so much about it. After we finish the lessons on hell we will look into Biblical right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel (it is a fascinating study!) with all that is going on in the Middle East. Anyway, all of you are invited to click on over to "About the Bible", it is not a debate sight, it is a teaching site, for debate go to the "About God" site. Again, this week's lesson "The Fact of Hell" here is the link, although there is a link already, but, hey, two links are better than one!
http://www.quicktopic.com/10/H/5dyGcd9A2TFc/p-1.8.1

Anacecilia: My condolences. It has been a rough year but good to see you holding up con animo.

Cindy: How funny. Bronte too is dressing up as a Hawaiian hula girl. She loves wearing the coconut shells and dancing the hula. She's constantly asking when we're going back to the Kauai House. We're also having a Hawaiian themed birthday party for her this coming weekend <g>.

Fernando: Congratulations. Making up for lost time???<chuckle>

Mike: There's some non-alcoholic wines also available in your local market (or should be). I believe they go under the name of Freesia or something of the kind. Good white zin, whites, and reds.

Fer, muchas felicidades y muchas gracias.
Cindy, Gracias. Julia va a ir de un Barney con cola amarilla.

Fernando: Wel Gefeliciteerd, felicidades! We are very happy for you and Natalie!

Ramon & Anaceci: Siempre tomo Tourtel cuando paso por Mexico; excelente recomendacion! Trataré de probar los vinos N/A. Anaceci, felicidades con Martinelli's. I'll try it for Thanksgiving. Congrats on getting it into Mexico.

AnaCeci: I was sorry to read about John's father! It has been a rough few years for you guys..please send him our condolensces and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you!
Ramon: We toasted to you on Friday--we had some friends over for dinner and drank a whole bottle (y mas!) de Pisco! Usando la clara de un huevo is the only way we do it, it makes a difference.
Georg: how was Halloween? E mail me a picture of your cuates in costume its: trentandcindy@starband.net. Alessandra is dressing up as a Hawaiian hula girl.
Fer: Congrats on the pending arrival!. I can honestly say that this "pregnancy" I have not had morning sickness even just once, I have, however, been as hormonal as I ever was when i really was pregnant, but my butt is still the same size. We are counting down, week by week, and I can't even talk about it without getting tears in my eyes.
Mike: thanks for the offer. I am not sure how much in donations we will take for now. Apparently we have to get about 15 to 20 different "gifts" for Ukranian government officials. I may be able to get a better sense on what really the orphangage needs when I get there. When we get back I could send a large package via DHL..but I will find out more and let everyone know.
On the anthrax front Mark (my brother) says they are doing a lot of teleconferencing from JP Morgan as several of the buildings near them (NBC and New York Post) have found the stuff.--Geor how is Julio doing?

Hello to one and all! Long time no read or write. Good to be back.

About the non-alcoholic drinks on this side part of the woods, sorry but I can’t really comment – I never touch the thing. I do however enjoy a good red, a cold one, or spirits once in a while... y del tequila ni hablar! Realmente no me considero catador, but I do enjoy it as much as the next guy.

Cindy – Congrats on the pending arrival of your new baby boy. You guys must be so excited! Of course, being one that has always followed your footsteps (at least on the baby front), I would like to announce that little Oliver is going to get a new baby brother/sister come next April! Mother and baby are doing great. Father is ecstatic :-)))

At the same time we must not lose track of the bad news – Anaceci, lo siento mucho. Things like this must be so sad, and frustrating to know there is nothing you can do about it. I have to say, though, that your words are about as wise as I have heard in a while: “Just have to hang in there. There is so much to look forward to”.

Cuídense todos.

And don't forget Martinelli's Sparkling N/A Cider ! Let me tell you how a brand can become a "house hold name". I like to think of it as a story of "persistance" rather than stubbornes.
1994- brand recognition, sampling, identification. Faxes come and go, samples come and go-John is selling, Anaceci is buying.
1995- first real posibility of having it in the Mexican market fails, we meet... become friends.
1996- New NOM law for lables appear. We get married.
1997-1999, food shows, trade shows, more NOM specification.Still no buisiness.
2000. Baby is born, still having trouble with Lables.
2001. Sams and Costco will finally have it for the Christmas season!!!!
So, as soon as I see the first bottle displayed, I will buy two Alcoholic Champagnes. We will drink one, and save the other one for Julia's HS graduation as a reminder that if we keep doing business like this, we won't be able to afford her tuition!

Mike B.: Aunque suene contraproducente, ya que yo vivo de esto, te felicito por dejar de beber, lo más importante es que actuaste a tiempo. Yo te recomiendo Tourtel, es una lata verde que se parece un poco a Heineken, la estuve vendiendo en México, esta fabricada en Francia por la empresa lider Kronenburg, si Toño o Fernando estan por ahi nos pueden comentar. Para los que si beben les recomiendo que prueban una N/A Beer para curar los malestares del dia siguiente. Otro gran plus de la N/A es que puede ser tomada por el designated driver, pero sentir que tambien estan en la Fiesta. Tambien te puedes tomar una en Lunch y luego ir a trabajar sin que te de sueño.
Tambien hay N/A wines, tanto blancos, tintos y espumosos, les recomiendo los Kosher de California, son bastante buenos.
Cindy: Y opara todos, no se si les habia recomendado para el Pisco o Whisky sour, asi como para las margaritas. Es añadir a su receta un poco the clara de Huevo, esto lo que hace es crear mas espuma y le da un excelente sabor ademas de apariencia.
cheers

Ana Ceci, Hola Ana, todo por aca muy bien. El pequeño Alex (Janito Jr.) esta muy bien. Creo que ya pesa una 10 lbs. Es un tragon, quiere comer todo el dia y parte de la noche. Jaclyn esta feliz con su hermanito y lo cuida como sii fuera la mama. Nancy super ocupada con nuestro negocio de depilacion por laser y yo al igual con mi trabajo y con la compañia.
Le mandas un besote a Julia.
Saludos

Sammy: Happy birthday a Sarita (no me acuerdo el dia exacto pero se que es por estas fechas)!

Anaceci: mandmae fotos de Julia. Que va a ser para Halloween? Hoy es la fiesta en la escuela de mis nenes. Rebecca va de "Belle" y Chase va a ser Tigger. Acabo de terminar de hacer 24 galletas para la fiesta y ahora me tengo que poner a arreglar el cabello de Rebecca igual al de "Belle". Ya te mandare fotos.

Mike: I always enjoy reading your messages. Somehow you inspire un sentido de tranquilidad.

Cindy: Congratulations on the adooption. Good luck on your trip!

Alex: I'm with Cindy, you should keep all your religious talk in you "About God" site. When classmates complained about our discussion on terrorism we stopped. I know everyone has the right to "chat" about whatever they want, however, remember Anaceci's words way back when... no hay que discutir de politica, religion, o futbol! Even though I personally simply skip all those long messages about religion, I can see how they can be bothersome to some. I must admit though, I do respect that you seem to be as stubborn and hard headed about your beliefs as I am about mine.

Mike, gracias! La buena es old milwakee!

I'm back after a bit of a hiatus (not Hawaii however). I'm in Brazil awaiting to board a flight back to Miami so I am glad to have some time to catch up with all of you.

Cindy: great news on the adoption - a good example of how persistence pays off eventually. Enjoy your trip. If you are taking anything to the orphanage for the kids that are staying behind, let me know if we can help with a coperacha!

Alex M: Great story of your brother. Although your bro's story would lead one to conclude that one's life is dependent on being in the right place at the right time, the truth is that one has to be prepared and aware that the right place and the right time are exactly that (in a sense, you have to be looking out for it so you can recognize it). Life is just so full of surprises; some pleasant, others not so - the challenge is to learn and gain a bit from all of them. Hope ABBA is coming along well.

Anacecilia: I am sorry to hear about your father in law. What a comfort for John that you are there with him.

Dominik and Ramon: I read your tequila discussion with some amusement. I quit drinking several years ago after realizing I had a "drinking" problem and I didn't quite like myself or my behavior/thinking while I was drinking. Now I've learned to enjoy social ocassions as much as if I've had a few. Still, I miss the experience of being a connoisseur and, to a greater extent, the bonding that goes on between two connoisseurs who enjoy comparing notes on their latest experiences. You guys seem to have so much pleasure discussing tequila that I enjoy it with you in a vicarious sense. Now, if anyone wants to compare notes on non-alcoholic beer; I'm game!

Hasta la vista!

Cindy, amazing! You and Trent deserve our full admiration. Alessa va a estar feliz. cuando salen?

Dominic. I just loved reading your remarks. Good o'l Dominic. You made me laugh then, you made my day today! (ademas de que tienes toda la razon del mundo!)

Geor. Can children grow so much in just 6 months? Estan lindos! gracias.

AlexM. Es increible como dos hermanos pueden ser tan diferentes verdad? I've been to Jupiter and it's very nice.

Just got back from Forestville. Not a very pleasant trip this time. John's father passed away on the 5th. He was a very nice, decent man. The perfect father in law. Needless to say, our whole family life and structure has been shaken again. Just have to hang in there. There is so much to look forward to.

Ramon, a ver si ahora que regrese John DEGUSTAMOS!

AlexJ como va Janito?

George O and all of you marines out there. Como van las cosas? I pray that they think you are all "too old" or something.

saludos.

Ramon, A donde estan las casitas? Suena bien $200 al dia si incluye todo. Piensan ir solos o con la familia?

Cindy, Congratulations on the adoption. You will have to tell us all about your trip. Felicidades......

Ingrid, Como va la vida de mama?

Saludos a todos

Sammy, I sent my brother Roberto '72 the names of the people your brother is looking for (msg 1718). No luck, he can't even remember most of them. His email is mcgrathroberto@aol.com in case your brother doesn't have it.

Actually, Roberto has an interesting story. He spent a few years at the ASF until we moved to SF in '69. We came back in '70 and he tried to join the school again. From Haight-Ashbury straight to Bondojito. In the interview with Mr. Mosher he was told he'd have to cut his hair to be allowed in school. Being a hippie to the bone, he chose to be a school dropout rather than have his hair cut. For good or bad, this idealism and stubbornness mix has always marked his personality.

A couple of years later we made a trip to the East Coast and there he decided to split and find a life of his own. He hitchhiked across the States and settled just north of SF. Then one day, while taking a photography course at the College of Marin, his teacher told the class a lab was needing someone for the 5 PM to 5 AM shift. He was the only one who actually went to the interview to this "lab" called "The Kerner Company." Only after he was hired was he told the true name of the place: Industrial Light and Magic. They were working on The Empire Strikes Back at the time.

He spent the next 17 years there, basically working as a still photographer and in the editing dept. in over 40 films. The guy obviously has some amazing stories to tell. Once I asked him what they had done with an Oscar they had just won and he told me the last time he saw it, it was being used to hold a door open, which gives a good description of the ambiente of the place. After he finally quit, I asked him how many Oscars they had won, "At least one a year" which makes quite a collection of door stops. He now does mostly graphic design and lives in a place in Florida called Jupiter (yeah, he was always kind of spaced out).

Hello my friends. Da-a-a-a-ave! You misunderstood, you are misquoting me. I clarify for your benefit at the About God discussion. Gotta go, they just started dinner without me! Imagine that!

RAMON: ME CONOCES MUCHO MEJOR DE LO QUE PENSABA (KAOS). PERO SI FUI A LA EUROPEA Y NO HABIA TU TOO-KIL-YA!
PARA ACAPULCO, YO YA ESTOY, ESPECIALMENTE SI INCLUYE TODO?

SALUDOS
DOMINIC

Cindy. What a Great idea. Glad you are back and congratulations on your adoption.
Dominic: Se me hace que andabas de parranda(Kaos), como que no lo encontraste, adonde fuiste? Tenemos algunos problemas en Guadalajara. Avisame la proxima vez que vayas y te alcanzo. Referente a la reunion de '82 este fin hice el scouting de las casas en ACA y estan de perlas calculo US$200 por dia con todo incluido y me refiero a todo.

Cindy: Welcome back! Wonderful that your adoption is moving forward so quickly. BTW, did you try any of Alex's suggesting for making the trip much more exciting?

Dominic: Tienes mucha razon. Vamos a tomar! Ramon, what a good time to have gotten into the tequila discussion, and I will give Viejo Tonel a try--I am sure it will taste great after a couple of shots of tequila!! ha,ha, ha...
Hawaii was great! We sailed, kayaked and snorkeled, and bought some tikis (the big Kahuna, and some other gods of protection) and we arrived home just fine. Tranquelizers on a plane do helped as well (it is less judgemental than being drunk while holding your 17 month old)
Trent and I will be going to the Ukraine next month to pick up our newly adopted son whom will be 6 months old Nov 2. This process has happened a little quicker than we anticipated, but we are very proud to become parents again!

Alex Loya -- You might want to return to your own "About God" forum, where you will certainly get more respect than this!

HOLA SAMMY: ESPERO ESTES BIEN, DESGRACIADAMENTE NO TUVE SUERTE EN ENCONTRAR EL TEQUILA DE RAMON EN GUADALAJARA, PARECE QUE O SE LES ACABO O NO LES HABIA LLEGADO. LO QUE SI LE RECOMIENDO A TODOS CUANDO VAYAN A MEXICO ES QUE PRUEBEN LA CAVA DE DON AGUSTIN SI SE LO VAN A TOMAR SIN REFRESCO O DON JULIO BLANCO CON REFRESCO. YO, POR MI PARTE, DESPUES DE LEER LOS ULTIMOS 3-4 MAILS, ME VOY A TOMAR VARIOS SHOTS POR LAS SIGUIENTES RAZONES.
1. PARA HACER LA PRUEBA HABER SI SOY UN LOCO RELIGIOSO
2. HABER SI ME AVIENTO UNA PROFESIA DE QUE MEXICO VA A GANAR EL MUNDIAL.
3. TO COPE OR TO COPEAR?, THAT IS THE QUESTION.
4. PARA REZAR QUE NO LLEGUE EL NALGA-TRAX,QUE AUNQUE NO ES MORTAL, SI HA DE SER MUY DOLOROSO!

SI NO SE PUEDEN REIR DE LA VIDA, COMO LA PUEDEN DISFRUTAR?

SALUDOS A TODOS

DOMINIC

Are you a religious extremist? Take this test:
1) Have you ever been kicked off a bus, a public building or a chatboard for incessant rantings?
2) Do you think you can hear God's commentary while watching the news?
3) Do you perpetually think we are on the brink of the Apocalypse?
4) Do you have your mind made up, and don't let anyone else confuse you with the facts?
If you answer YES to 3 or more of these questions, YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS EXTREMIST!

Alex, I would have been truly impressed if you had even remotely predicted or rather prophesized that these attacks were coming in your About God discussion. If I remember correctly you said armageddon was going to start with an army of 250 million Chinese or something like that. Instead we have Bush now going to China and China giving their full support in our war against these terrorist. This is clearly completely out of whack from your doomsday scenario you were preaching.

Guess everyone copes in different ways.

Hello my friends! Cindy P. I know, my intention was not to scare or bore or aggravate anyone, I do not forget who you are, all of you are very dear to my heart, I got you all's picture hanging on the wall in my study. My intent was simply to say that that no matter what happens, the Lord is in full control, we have nothing to worry about when we trust in Him. You may not believe this, but the Lord has lately been for some reason very close to me. remember when we were having all these shark attacks one after the other, even deadly shark attacks one after the other? Well, it was so weird, but as we were watching the news the last shark attack before Sept. 11 I discerned in my spirit and I told Sandra, my beautiful wife, "This is a warning from God, we are fixing to be attacked." she thought I was crazy, but the very next Tuesday we were attacked. When we saw the first tower burning, I told my wife, "this is a terrorist attack" and she thought, she told me "Here he goes again!" but a few minutes later we watched live the second plane crash into the second tower, then I told her,"There will be other attacs" and a few minutes ater the pentagon was attacked. Then I got sick as a dog, one Saturday night I coudnt sleep I was coughing so much, well, between 4 and 5 in the morning that Sunday I am praying intensly and as I begin to pray for our troops, the Lord distinctly told me, not a voice Sammy, don't worry, but a thought as I prayed, a knowing sure thought, "the attacks are starting today" our attacks against the Taliban. Well, I finally fell asleep around 6, at 11 my children woke me up, I turn on the news and the breaking news is that the attacks are starting. President Bush had called Daschle and two other congressmen to tell them the top secret info about the attacks, but while I was praying, the Lord told me. You might think I'm crazy, in fact, I do think most of you think I'm nuts, but thats ok, I love you anyway. Point is, everything will be alright, the Lord is in full control and if we trust in Him we will be ok regardless of what happens, that was my point. Not to worry, I am not offended at all, I've been kicked out of public buses, malls and even City Hall in New Orleans, I've had people spit at me even when I have preached in the street, in Pakistan the Lord did send military police with machine guns to protect us the first two days of the crusades in answer to a prayer burden He laid on y heart before I went there. So, it just comes with the territory! I love you and I am praying for all of you. McG. you should've been a comedian! You had me rolling buddy! Alright, hugs to all!
Alex

Hola a todos. George O. gracias por mandarme el site! I am in Forestville, and brought the wrong computer, needless to say, I don't have any email addresses in the directory and I have to wait to receive any in order to send.

Morna, happy late b-day! I don't have your new no. with me or e mail so I couldn't do anything but you were in our thougts all day.

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Javier Arizmendi: Hola soy de la generacion de 1982. Tu eres hermano de Yareli??? Fue muy buena amiga mia. Porfavor dame sus datos, mi mail es gabypena@bellsouth.net Mil gracias y gusto en saludarte.

Alex M: the stories are not fit for a chat, will tell all at next AHS Thusday Nov 1st.
saludos

Maroney, it's working, it's working. It's just that everybody is in Hawaii, or so it seems.

John B., clandestineradio.com, wow! First thing I saw when I opened it: "Listen to the final moments of Taliban radio as it is blown off the air." I'm not sure I want to get that close!

Ramón, cuéntanos tus Colombian stories.

Yes it is. Good, here is a Tequila joke.

  Ramon had a cat named Tequila. He loved Tequila very much. He even took Tequila on family vacations. One night Ramon decided to visit the local Cantina. He of course brought along Tequila. Everyone at the Cantina knew and loved Tequila. As the two were sitting enjoying the evening a drunken sailor walked in brandishing a large knife. As the sailor lunged at Ramon Tequila tried to defend him. Her tail was sliced off in the scuffle. Tequila did not make it.
   Ramon walked home brokenhearted. As he reached his house he heard a familiar "meow". He looked down and saw the ghost of Tequila. Tequila explained to him that in order to gain access to Meow Heaven it was necessary to retrieve her tail from the Cantina. They proceeded quickly to the Cantina. However, when they arrived it was closed. Ramon banged on the door as loudly as possible. After a few minutes a slot on the door opened and the face of the owner appeared. Ramon held up the ghost of Tequila and explained their predicament. The owner listened patiently. However, after Ramon had finished the owner shook his head and said," I am sorry Ramon, but you know we can't retail spirits after twelve".

Is this working???

Edited by author 10-14-2001 07:18 PM
Cindy: You should try Peruvian Pisco, in my humble opinion the difference is a matter of Borders. Try Viejo Tonel, Peru.
Paul C.: what is your opinion?
Still waiting for your best Tequila Jokes.
Just came back from Bogota colombia, what a great Country with some great people, too bad about Narcos, Paramilitary and Criminals. Have some great Stories.
cheers

Sammy: Decidimos mejor ir a nuestra cabana junto al lago (Lake Gregory) next week. It's incredibly beautiful and peaceful and Rebecca and Chase love it. We'll be going to Hawaii for our anniversary in March (we were married in Maui and go back every year - al lugar de los hechos). Con respecto a desconectarme I appreciate your concern pero, imposible. I agree with Alex, just can't get enough - way tooo important to know what's going on. Mientras mas informados de los hechos, mejor.

John B: I will definitely look you up next time. I was there this past Friday to Sunday and had a great time with my bro.
Cindy where are you going? I will be in Hawaii on the 19th. Are you going Georgina with your family or did you cancel? I think you could use John B's advice to disconnect for a while.
Bienvenida Denise Dalma.
By the way, I found Jack Richmond and have been e-mailing with him. He lives in Houston Texas. I will encourage him to check this site out.
I hope everyone is doing well.
Dominic, que tal, probaste Fiesta?? Tu recomendacion porfavor.

For those of you who have older siblings...My oldest brother is in charge of finding classmates from the class of 1972 for their 30 year reunion.
They are:
Frank Driessen

Gary Davis

Gary Tritt

George Croisier

Teresa Martinez

 
Do any of you recognize these names or know someone that might?
Any help would be appreciated. Can you imagine 30 years?

Alex: You sick puppy...I'm still LOL. My mom actually called me before my flight out to Kauai to not take it too personally when I get searched at the airport because of the way I look. Can you imagine, my own mom racially profiling me <g>?

Had checked out debka.com a while back but couldn't confirm any of their sources which made me a little leary of repeating what I read there. You know, you can't believe everything you read on the Internet. Indeed some frightening stuff on their site. Another link which you might find interesting is http://www.clandestineradio.com/ which has war reports based on radio monitoring.

John B., ten days without listening to any news sounds promising. But if you’re on the other end and just can't get enough, the Israeli http://www.debka.com/ has some articles guarantied to scare just about anybody. And most end up being true. Who knows where these guys get their information, but in August for example, they were talking about a soon-to-come major conflict. Then there's http://www.stratfor.com/ which has some really interesting analysis on what's going on.

And yes, the First American School Monthly Get Together or whatever it was called, was an absolute success. We were a little low on people ...two, but hey, who likes mobs? The good thing about nobody else going was that we were able to talk freely about everybody. "Remember shirtless George O. at the dance floor?" etc.

Welcome Dennise. Cindy, have a great vacation and remember not to take your 10 inch kitchen knives with you on the plane. You want to do a little prank? The night before your flight, grab Trent’s on-board luggage and...

If you think of it, it is a long flight all the way to Hawaii. Maybe you can prepare a few jokes to make the trip fun for everyone:

-Learn a few phrases in Arab. Every time you walk down the aisle to the bathroom, put your hands together and repeat them out loud. Remember to include the word "Allah" in there somewhere.
-Grab the phone in front of your seat and in a low voice simply say "We’re ready." Make sure the people around you hear you.
-After you make sure everybody is sound asleep, inflate the discomfort bag and pop it as hard as you can.
-When served coffee, open the cream, throw the white powder up in the air and yell "Anthrax attack! ...just kidding."
-Open the pilot's door and yell "YOU GUYS NEED ANY HELP?"

Cindy,
Jaclyn has adapted to the new baby quite well. We honestly thought she would be bit jealous. She loves her little brother and helps out in feeding bottles and tries to help changing diapers.
I hope you guys have a great time in Hawaii.
Saludos a todos

Edited by author 11-12-2001 07:25 PM
Hey, just got back from Kauai. Wonderful time. Didn't pay attention to news events for ten days. Can't recommend it enough!!!

Cindy: enjoy your trip. I'm already trying to figure out how to get back next month <G>.

Dennise: congrats and welcome to the board. Life has returned to normal for me - work wise. As for personally, I just got back from a much needed vacation that centered me. Guess my "molasses" walking has now more to do with being on Hawaiian mood than anything else...

Deborah K: how funny that you've written. I was wondering about you just the other day. I ran into some photographs you took of me and Guillermo Flores playing tennis and thought about you. I live in Berthoud, Colorado, married with a 23 month-old daughter. Life is wonderful here as well. What have you done since you left AHS?

Sammy: I live just south of Ft. Collins. Look me up the next time you're in town. Would like to sit and chat with you and yours...

Jessica B.:
Yes, I remember you well. How could I not.
I'm happy to hear your family in NYC is ok.
Did you leave Mexico City in 1980 ?

Dennise D.:
My e-mail address is Javier_Arizmendi@gensler.com. Maybe we can organize a small get toghether.

Dennise: Bienvenida and congrats on your tequila bottle. Si no la quieres avisame...God knows I am needing it! Yesterday I had a patient come in (I'm a vet and live in Ornage County). The owner of the dog lost her daughter in the pentagon on Sept. 11. This dog belonged to her daughter. The dog is very sick and I am not sure that I'll be able to save him. I am loosing sleep over this. The little progress that I had been able to make psycholigically trying to accept everything went down the toilet yesterday when I spoke with this lady who needless to say, was beyond devastated. What kind of residency is your husband doing?

Sammy: no pude abrir to ultimo email.

Karen: me volviste a mandar el email? No pude abrir el primero. Tal vez sea mi computadora.

Cindy,

Hi! Thanks for yor message! After emelentary school I went to the "Mexico City School" (La "Mexico") in Polanco. Finished highschool there and went to the UNAM. AFter which I came over to the Northeast for graduate school (1987), met my husband, and stayed in the US. I moved to California ~4 ys. ago, because of Daniel's (my husband)residency "thing" at Stanford. I always wanted to work in Biotech, and I just started doing that in May, at a company called Affymetrix. Sorry if I bored you with "my story..."


Does anyone still feel like your walking in molasses since 9/11? I have seriously tried to get back "into work" and life. The life part is easier because of those two great monsters (3.5 and 1) I have at home, but work....well, that's been a lot tougher!!
 
Sammy, thanks for your message from a while back. Puts some things in perspective....

we should have a mini AHS reunion in the bay area...
Sammy, do you have Yolanda and Javier's info?

-Dennise

John and Cindy,

Paula Walker's email address is posted on the Class of 81 directory on my website. She was a recent addition, courtesy of Rebeca Sato, who is on a mission to find members of the class of 82 and is finding some from other classes as well. Last I heard, Paula was married, living in Indianapolis. Actually, the last time I saw her was at her wedding in Michigan.

http://home.san.rr.com/smacintosh/AHSClass...mniDirectory/81.htm

Cindy - Go girl! Have a great time in Hawaii. I, for one, know where I'll be headed if there IS any kind of crisis - to Colorado, and into your basement!!! :)

Dennise: Yes I remember you! Bienvenida! Javi Arizmendi, Yolanda Escandon, and Sammy are a few of the Bay area classmates that come to mind. Where did you go after elementary school and how did you end up in SF?
John M: I remember the Junipero group well (I had the BIGGEST crush on David McDonald). I know that Mike Walker (Paula's brother)married Wendy Macias. Paula and I were good friends (Girl Scouts and lockermates) I don't know where she lives. Katie has 4 children, I believe--I think Marcie M and Jennifer WS (both whom write in a few times) keep in touch with her. Billy owns, I believe a restaurant-bar in Florida, and he also writes in a few times. Didn't you have an older brother?
We are off to Hawaii this week, and I must admit, I have to have traquilizers to fly these days. I spoke to my sister in law in New York City last nite. She was in tears discribing the horror that she and her children witness that day. I also spoke to my 11 year old nephew, whom has a few friends and classmates whom lost their parents. He didn't want to talk about it. Jill (his mom) says there has been a strange transformation in NYC. People, for the first time, are helping one another, are looking out for one another, and believe in their city. She chocked back emotions as she describes how people are now--they believe in a greater cause and are strong for each other and their children. It has become a community of people, firefighters, priests, and families now working for the good of all. She has always wanted to move away from NYC, but now she wants to stay to help rebuild and heal. I felt much better after talking to her, as I have been wrestling with my emotions (like all of us have) since that day.

It should snow here tonite in Colorado, but I am warming up my flip flops and mask and snorkel. Ramon, I will have to look for the tequila, but I am more of a Pisco Sour fan (Peruvian Pisco is not allowed in my house). We have 32 bottles of Pisco (Capel 45) in our basement....just ready and waiting for a party.

Carol W: How is your mom doing?

Alex J: How is Jackie doing with her new brother?

Congratulations to Denise and Welcome. The only catch to this contest is that you have to pick up your Bottle in Mexico. Please e-mail me your address ricoyr@tands.com.mx and we will try to get it there.
The next Contest is to the Best Tequila Joke.
Had the first AHS thursday it was a Romantic Affair only Alex and myself were present. I guess all good things take time.

Dominic, el numero de la casa es 623-551-0277
saludos

John M - I e-mailed Christy Cueto last night - she asked me to pass on her e-mail address....it's: christinecueto@hotmail.com

She was at the reunion in May, and looked fabulous, per usual!

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MORONEY, BUT I AM CONFIDENT I WON THAT CONTEST. MY MOM AND UNCLE HAD SEVERAL ROSTICERIES BUT NOT NEAR THAT GOLF CLUB. LO MALO ES QUE LAS LAGUNAS MENTALES AHORA SON COMO OCEANOS.

HENDRIX: QUE ONDAS? WE NEVER HOOKED UP AFTER THAT NIGHT AT ANTONE'S, IT WAS A TOTAL FLASHBACK RUNNING INTO YOU. I AM MARRIED, 1 KID 8 MONTHS AND EVERYTHING IS OK. IF YOU EVER COME TO AUSTIN, GIVE A A CALL, OR MAYBE WE CAN MEET FOR DINNER A MORONEYS ONE OF THESE DAYS.

RAMONCITO: PARA MAÑANA EN LA NOCHE ME ESTARE TOMANDO MI PRIMERA COPA DE FIESTA-AGAVE, DESPUES TE DOY MI OPINION.

JANITO: TE LLAME A TU CASA PERO YA TE CAMBIASTE? COMO ESTA JJ? (JANITO JUNIOR)

SALUDOS A TODOS

DOMINIC

A very cold greeting from Canada.
Does anyone know anything about Christy Cueto? She and a group of us attended El Colegio Junipero until eighth grade. She was and I am sure still is a very nice and compassionate person. Our group included Mark Freudenthaler, Billy Parra, Paula Walker, John Howley, Kathy Anderson and last but not least Katie Mitchell.
Any of you Catolico green sweaters and gray slack geeks wish to get in touch my e-mail is reidmar@ciaccess.com

I saw Coach Everest briefly on television and was reminded of a funny story. Mark Freudenthaler and I had chosen a moment of insanity one day and opted to miss football practice. After a couple of chelas at his house I smugly began the long walk down his street towards Reforma. I heard a car approaching and stuck out my thumb for a ride. I was greeted by the unmistakeable sound of a V.W. bug downshifting. I climbed into Coach Everest's car and began a complicated explanation which as it evolved become increasingly convoluted. He was in a benevolent mood and thus my only punishment was 5 dirty hundreds. I hear that the New Orleans Saints have aggressive special teams coached by "Al". I am not surprised.

I heard military operations are under way. My younger brother Mark is in the Navy in San Diego. I wish all in harms way courage.
Dominic: What ever became of that restaurant in which we once had a chicken heart eating contest? It was the same night as the infamous golf day.

JohnH: would you really think that anyone that knows you and lives next to you would dare say they do? LOL
Sorry, I had to say it.
Toño

I think it's very fitting that Dennise should win Ramon's tequila.
Salud.
So anyway, is there anyone that knows me that lives in DC?
Dominic: How are things in Austin?
Maroney: Harvest time, uh? Maybe I'll skip that and just show up in time for dinner. :)

Hi everyone!! I am new to this page, and Sammy suggested I write. I left the ASF at the end of elementary school, but still remember most of you...(or the way you lloked eons ago!)
I live in Palo Alto, CA (not far from SF), and work in biotech. I am married, and have two gorgeous kids (obviously unbiased opinion :)
Does anyone live in the Bay Area? ARe there any Bay Area ASF reunions?

Thanks to you all!!

Ramón, sí se va a hacer lo de hoy? Dónde es el MP? que no fui la vez pasada. A qué hora es?

Dominic: El Fiesta Agave lo estamos vendiendo en la Europea en Guad hay una en Americas, frente a Plaza del Sol y En Providencia, Vinos America en Av. Americas y Las Playas.
Alex MG: Nos vemos hoy?

MORONEY: EVEN TIGER WOULD HAVE BEEN 20 OVER PAR DURING THAT GOLFING OUTING. INDICUTIBLEMENTE ERAMOS UNOS IMBECILES, PERO NADIE SE A DIVERTIDO TANTO EN LA HISTORIA DEL GOLF.
I JUST GOT AN E-MAIL ON THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCED THAT WILL SUPPORTING THE US AGAINST OSAMA AND HIS BOYS. WHAT IS YOUR E-MAIL? I AM SURE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

RAMON: DONDE VENDEN EL FIESTA AGAVE?, LA SEMANA QUE ENTRA VOY A GUADALAJARA Y ME GUSTARIA COMPRAR UNAS BOTELLAS.

ELENA: VERY GOOD JOKE! EL CORRESPONSAL THAT WROTE THAT STORY MUST BE AN AHS ALUMNI, I REMEMBER EVERYONE AT AHS TALKING ABOUT HIM DURING OUR YEARS THERE.

SALUDOS A TODOS
DOMINIC

sorry to interrupt.... (ray tirado from class of '77)

hello, I think this is great opportunity for all AHS's...:

to all of those in the San Antonio, TX area, Texas, or U.S.A., & elsewhere.... please note:
                            the National Society of Hispanic MBA's (NSHMBA's)
12th Annual National
Conference and Career Expo, which will be held in:
San Antonio, Texas
When: Thursday Nov. 1st thru Saturday Nov. 3rd.
Where: Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center

http://www.nshmba.org/
http://www.nshmba.org/conference.asp

National Society of Hispanic MBAS
8204 Elmbrook, Suite 235
Dallas, TX 75247

This is a great opportunity to network, and party on that weekend. You do not need an MBA to belong to NSHMBA, considering I am a CS (Computer Science) type... it was through this organization that I got my jobs with IBM, & HP while Eduardo San Roman ('77) was the President for the Dallas, TX Chapter.

check it out, & later,
ray tirado
djrt@worldnet.att.net

Agricultural report from Ontario, Canada. This year we have seen an exponential increase in the aphid population which calls our soybean fields breakfast, lunch, and dinner. However, in mother nature's infinite wisdom this has been countered with an equally aggressive increase in the population of aphid munching ladybugs. Yesterday as we were walking the land my son looked up and exclaimed with glee" Mira Papi, it is raining ladybugs".It was indeed as the sky was an orange blizzard of bugs. Moral of the story? Apart from being just another corny daddy story it reminds us all to "Remember the wonder of it all."
 DOMINIC: Remember our golf game with Pepino, Eddie, and Lalo in Lago de Guadalupe? Que bola de imbeciles eramos. The only thing under par that day was the pata de elefante de ron.
 ALEX McGRATH: I think it is very commendable that you take the time to talk to Pepino every Sunday. I hope anyone living in the D.F. will make an effort to do something for Pepino. Sometimes the smallest of gestures are the longest lasting.
JOHN HENDRIX: I know you feel as though I left you at the mercy of the scorpions in San Miguel de Allende. It's more like I left the scorpions at your mercy.

Elena: LOL

Has anybody heard of Marlene Guinchard que vive en Los Cabos?

Asunto: Soldados Mexicanos en Afganistán!!! Notimex/ Reuters/ Agencias.
INFORMACION IMPORTANTE.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

El Gobierno de la República, ha extendido un comunicado en el cual se informa del apoyo MILITAR incondicional, al gobierno de los Estados Unidos de Norteamérica, en este inminente conflicto bélico en contra de Afganistán
y los países simpatizantes del terrorista Osama Ben Ladin. El destacamento del H. Ejército Mexicano que será enviado como refuerzo a las tropas estadounidenses, está compuesto en su totalidad, por capitalinos, a petición de los altos mandos militares,debido a las siguientes razones ampliamente analizadas:

1.- Tenemos muchos.
2.- Son altamente resistentes a los gases tóxicos.(tolerancia superior a los
350 imecas)
3.- Considerando los altos contenidos de agentes patógenos que se incluyen
en su dieta diaria, difícilmente son suceptibles a daños provocados por
armas biológicas.
4.- Pueden desmantelar los tanques y vehículos enemigos antes de que estos
reaccionen, dejándolos parados en cuatro ladrillos.
5.- El escuadrón de Tragafuegos es capaz de asustar a cualquier lanzallamas
afgano.
6.- Ningun boqueo apertrechado por medios militares es más eficiente que una
manifestación de ambulantes.
7.- El H. Escuadrón de Avanzada Táctico-Militar, mejor conocido como
"LaPerra Brava", provocará que la Furia de Alá parezca un triste berrinche.
8.- No requieren de sofisticadas armas de combate, como lo ha demostrado el
CGH, logrando así, grandes ahorros en recursos bélicos. 9.- Una escaramuza
al estilo Metro Balderas 14:30 hrs, es suficiente para desorientar y
desorganizar al más ejemplar de los batallones de infantería.
10.- Sobrevivirán como cucarachas. Así lo han demostrado a través de más de
70 años de aguantar crisis sexenales, devaluaciones, inflación,desempleo y
otros males peores que los jinetes del apocalipsis.
11.- Nuestros aviadores son prácticamente invisibles, no los detecta radar
alguno, ni siquiera la Secretaría de Hacienda, con lo cual se garantiza el
factor sorpresa en los ataques.
12.- Así nos deshacemos de unos cuantos.

Corresponsal en México.
Ami Melahban Apelar.

Thanks for comments. Actually, I am not to worry about my two monsters and their languages. I believe in my experience in the American School so I applied it (plus an extra language). They both understand and speak Spanish and French, they understand perfectly English (they still do not use their brain to speak it). Delphine talks to them in English, they respond in French (she is French), I speak to them in Spanish, they respond in Spanish, at school it is all French. Sometimes we both switch around the languages and it is quite a view. French people in the mall and supermarkets do not know what to do, if they should run and call security, if they should smile, if they should send us to a doctor, or what...rather funny actually.

Hugs and kisses to all
Toño

So, Ferber it is!! gracias.

John: Thanks for the suggestion, but why NC? That name is probably already the property of my Friends at Brown Forman Southern Comfort, also NC is not very Mexican would it not sound funny to have a Tequila with an Anglo Name? Actually we are preparing to launch the product in the US concentrating in FLorida, all border states and maybe CHitown and NYC. Then we are doing Colombia, Venezuela and Germany.

Sammy: (Alex Mc, you can skip this mention) Tessy and I swear by Ferber and we've had great results. We discovered his book after three-months of hell when Andrea was born. Thereafter, we trained Andrea to soothe herself to sleep and she's done great since. Karina, our youngest, slept through the night after the first month. For those that don't think it is possible, I understand that in Holland, babies are taught to sleep through the night (11:00PM - 6:00AM) by the second week. The way this is done is that the Dutch govt. pays a night nurse to be with the mother/baby during the first ten days/nights after birth. The night nurse then gets the baby used to a routine whereby night feeding is simply not done. Anyway, everyone has their own style that works.

Sammy: I agree with you on many aspects of Ferber. He does do a good explanation of sleep, REM, and sleep deprivation. It is so hard sometimes to be a parent and read so many opinions and try to compile something that works for you. Trent does get a little upset with me because I don't stick with one method--Alessa is 17 months and still won't sleep through the night..it is hard to meet their needs and feel rested at the same time. I was not aware that Ferber was a student of Brazelton--what a contrast in philosophy! To give Ferber some credit, however, does stress that the length of time to cry has to be comfortable for the parent...which is difficult if the two parents don't agree!
I hope when you are in Colorado you can enjoy some of the "changing of the aspen" and the crispness in the air. I saw John Bauer and his family last Sat for lunch. He has a wonderful wife and an adorable daughter (Bronte) whom has lots of dark curly hair. It was great to see him again.

Alex McGrath: Thank you very much for the information concerning Eddie and Pepino. I was saddened to find out about Pepino's accident. I am glad you included his phone number as I will give him a call.

The idea for the party came from my wife Nina and from Barrett. She asked him flat out how we could help the children in New York who had lost their parents. They came to a mutual agreement.He is rather remarkable for one so young. He has the receipt from the Red Cross which he keeps in his pumpkin bag.

Tono: You ask a very good question concerning children and language acquisition. Don't sweat it. I taught Montessori for three years and the whole premise of this educational system is that children have absorbent minds. They have critical stages in which they literally teach themselves. We really do not comprehend the mechanics of the brain. My son Barrett, for instance, only responds in English although I speak only Spanish to him. He understands completely but has his preferences. Accents in language are more of a concern for adults.

Toño, your experience teaching your kids French reminds me of some friends here in Mexico who had the same problem teaching their daughter English. Their English was really bad but they didn't mind and talked to her in English all the time, never in Spanish, for the first few years and guess what? She now speaks perfect English (and Spanish). There's something about the brain, especially at that age. So don't despair!

Cindy, cool it with your "eloquent writing lessons." I should be taking reading comprehension classes.

Ramón, Oct. 4 sounds cool. But if it's just going to be you and me meeting at that place, maybe you should post an invitation on other boards,'80 and '82 perhaps?

John Maroney, you should post the newspaper article on Barrett's birthday, we'd love to see it. Whose idea was it? Also, you ask about Pepino and Eddie Rose "Heavy Dose." Pepino called today and I asked him about Eddie. He tells me Eddie moved on from that fumigating business you mention to setting up one of those "crystal clear" soda businesses here in DF, Morgan & Drake. He left that and a couple of years ago he moved to Cancun, where he has a "pure water" business. He's married and has a daughter. I never saw Rose again but would very much like to see him one of these days.

I told Pepino you had asked about him and he told me to tell you his story. He had an unfortunate accident in Texas months -maybe weeks- after graduation. He was hit by a car. He has difficulty talking and walking. His father has been taking care of him all these years. They live in a small place somewhere in central DF. He has worked in simple jobs and was hired by Joey Farca at the 20 year reunion, to work at his store. Pepino's dad isn't getting any younger and is sick, and this worries Pepino when he thinks about his future. He sounds pretty depressed. His dream is to go "as far away as possible from this place." He dreams of a different life.

When I mentioned what you had written about yourself, living in the farm etc. he immediately said "Tell him that's perfect for me, I'd love that!" "Pepino, can you do physical work?" "Well, not really." Anyway, he doesn't have a computer, so almost every Sunday he calls and asks who's written. His phone is (525) 547 31 41. He's not expecting your call, so don't feel like you have to call him. In fact, he's probably not expecting any call from anybody.

Cindy, Que mala suerte que no te voy a ver. Good luck with the class. By the way, I'm glad you have found Ferber useful. I actually dislike his method very much and have turned his name into the verb "to Ferberize". He was a student of T.Berry Brazelton who writes a lot about co-sleeping and family-bed. Ferber wanted to help parents with a method to "teach" children not to need their parents in order to sleep, and to learn to sleep on their own. It became very popular with parents because it worked. (I think mostly for the parents though). However, a happy and rested parent is crucial.

I am trying to post a picture of Xanique, but I am unable to.
Mns doesn't allow me to open a passport, and i will not recognize my old passport.
HELP.

This message is for John Bauer. Hola, John yo soy la puertorriqunha que vivia en Aconcagua. It was interesting to see your name pop up and I was just wondering how things were going. Where you were living? I am currently in Greensboro, North Carolina. Married with two girls. Life is good! How about yours?

Sammy: I would love to see you, but that weekend we have an "adoption class" that goes all weekend in Denver. Que malas! I would have loved to see you. I very much appreciated the comments you had about your patients and the insights you had into the emotions following Sept 11.

Jodi and Alex McG: my comment about relgion and Alex L was based on what happened last winter. Mr. Loya forgot whom we were, and used this forum as his pulpit and unfortunatley went too far as he described, in detail, an abortion on our website and on 80's website as well. That is why those of on this website at the time, requested that if he wants to "preach" he should create his own subtopic. Unfortunately I feel that I sounded as if I was targeting other people whom make comments about God. I wasn't. I am sorry if it came off that way. Maybe I need to take "eloquent writing lessons" from Mr. McGrath!
Jodi: Adoption is an emotional rollercoaster! We are done with our homestudy, we view a video in the next few weeks--and probably travel sometime next February. I have bought another crib for Alessa's room in anticipation!
AnaCeci: Have you heard of the book "Solve your child's sleep problems" by Dr. Ferber? It has helped me quite a bit.

Thanks Jennifer, I am planning to be there next April and am trying to see if I can stay with anyone for a few days.

Cindy I will be in Ft Collins next weekend Oct 5-7, at my brother's home. Perhaps we could meet??

Anacecilia- Las desveladas van muy bien. Mi chiquitina come SUPER bien, y duerme 6 horas seguiditas....so it isn't that bad. Al parecer my breastmilk is very good and rich, so I am very lucky that I keep her satisfied.
Es lo maximo!!!!! I never thought being a mami was this great!!!
A ti Julia no te deja dormir?
En estos momentos estoy breastfeeding a Xanique que se me esta quedando dormidita en el brazo.
Bueno, seguimos platicando despues,

Hello to all.

Ramon: Here in Canada people go crazy for Tequila but they have little if no choice. Usually it is sold out. It might be a wise idea to consider creating a Tequila just for Canada. You could call it Northern Comfort. It would sell. You have to consider that Canadians in these parts are preparing for winter which means it gets dark at 4:15 p.m. It usually is too cold to go outside so what else is there to do? Yes, drink Northern Comfort, a little taste of Mexico in an igloo. I am not kidding, it would sell.

Anacelia. Thanks for the kind words.

Sammy. Thanks for sharing with us your expertise. I thought I had a bad case of PMS!

John M. The b-day idea was great. It is amazing how children understand and learn. Felicidades.

Ramon. Ya vimos la pagina. Esta padre. Que tal si nos das a degustar !

Ingrid, como van las desveladas? Para mi, lo mas dificil es el lack of sleep.

Sammy, I live in Harrisburg, about 1 1/2 hrs from Philly. Let me know if you travel this way ... it would be great to see you since I didn't make it to the reunion!

I am planning a visit to Philadelphia next year for a conference and am wondering if any alumni live there. Does anyone know?

RAMON
TU WEB SITE ESTA BIEN Y EL NOMBRE DEL TEQUILA ESTA 2-3. TE SUGIERO QUE PARA TU PROXIMO TEQUILA LO NOMBRES TEQUILA RELAMPAGO, TAL VEZ PARA CUANDO EMPIEZES A EXPORTAR. NADA SERIA MAS MEXICANO QUE PEDIR UN RELAMPAGO! BLANCO O UN RELAMPAGO! AÑEJO. EN INGLES SERIA WHITE LIGHTNING O AÑEJO LIGHTNING, CHIN-GON!(BONITO EN CHINO) NO CREES? DE TODOS MODOS, ME VOY A COMPRAR VARIAS BOTELLITAS DE TU CAVA PARA MI CANTINA, QUE TIENE YA MAS DE 82 BOTELLAS DIFERENTES DE TEQUILAS.ALGUNOS MUY BUENOS Y OTROS MUY MALOS, PERO HAY QUE PROBARLOS TODOS PARA PODER TENER TODO BIEN DEFENIDO.

JOHN:
I DON'T QUITE REMEMBER THAT SPECIFIC FOOTBAL MOMENT. BUT I ALWAYS HAD A GREAT TIME IN PRACTICE AND GAMES. I GUESS THE BEST THING ABOUT AHS FOOTBAL WAS THE CUERITOS (PICKLED PORK SKIN) WITH SALSA BUFALO WE HAD AT THE TIENDITA AFTER PRACTICE OR GAMES AND THE USUAL 8-10 CAGUAMAS TO CALM OUT THIRST.

SALUDOS A TODOS
DOMINIC

Saludos.
John Hendrix: When are you coming for a visit? It is almost harvest time and there is lots of work to do.

Dominic: Do you recall the time you introduced me to the finer points of holding a tackling dummy? I had not yet set my feet when you hit me like a freight train sending me cartwheeling. Coach Everest had a good laugh.

  I would like to share a story about our three year old son Barrett. Those who are parents will not mind.

    Last Sunday was Barrett's third birthday. We celebrated it in a special way. We had his party at our church. We asked guests that instead of presents they bring donations to be sent to the American Red Cross in New York. Barrett raised close to $115.00 dollars. He did not ask for any gifts although he did receive a small Thomas the Tank Engine later that evening. His sense of empathy literally takes away my breath. A local newspaper is doing a write up and so they should. That's all folks. Wee little hands can make all the difference in the world.

Edited by author 09-25-2001 07:05 PM
Kelly S.D- Thank you soooo much for the beautiful dress for Xanique. Once she wears it, I shall send you /post a photo of her. That was very thoughtful of you, thanks again.

To all, thank you for all your good wishes. Xanique and I are getting aquainted in our home now. Life has changes 100% for the better!!
Tirso has been a great help, and he is soooo excited and happy.

I wish I had more time to read all the postings, but....I need to sleep, and catch up on bills, etc..

As soon as I have my pictures developed, I will post them so you all can meet Xanique.

Besitos,
Ingrid

Edited by author 09-25-2001 06:40 PM
Alex Mc, the <g> stands for <grin> as in I'm grinning while I write this. <G> is grinning really big while writing this. Just a chat shortcut I tend to use often. Adds a little personality to the sentence.

Ramon, nice site. Had a little trouble with some of the Macromedia and on the English side a couple of misspellings, but far be it for me to correct anyone on that <g> as my spelling is horrendous.


One note on the 1700 message. I will borrow the rules set out on the Class of '80 chat board that I think would apply here:

No one who posts messages 1697, 1698 or 1699 is eligible to win.

If a repeat poster gets message 1700, the first poster who did not post 1697, 1698 or 1699 wins the tequila.

Well I wrote shortly after all of the disaster happened but for some reason it didn't get posted.

Alex Mg Thanks for being the peace maker. I feel that if we can have some far out radical political views discussed here then why not have the religious ones.

Cindy How is everything going with the adoption? Just like it takes 9 months to make a baby it will take that and probably more to get through with all of the paper work. It will happen. Patience and flexibility are the order for the day. My experience with it was that it was an act of faith to get through it all. We have some friends who own their own adoption agency and they primarily deal with children from Russia. Alot of families in our church have adopted children from there. Some other day when I have more time to write I will share with you our experience.

Just fyi Katie Mitchell Brown had her fourth baby on Aug.21 a little girl Emily Grace. She now has two girls and two boys. They are beautiful children. That is why she didn't make it to the reunion. It is great to be in touch with her again.

Kelly S I was so sorry to hear about your father in law. May your husband and family feel comforted and loved at this time. How is your Dad recovering from his accident? Thank God for helmets. My husband cycles and has broken a few.

My sister Jennifer 82 shared an essay that Raza Zadi wrote about what all happened on the 11th. It was very well written. I believe that it is posted on the 82 chat and would well be worth everyones reading. He is Muslim and his family is from Pakistan.

Thankfully it appears that none of our classmates were directly affected in this tragedy. My sister Jennifer is in Manhatten but is safe. Since none of us know when it has been ordained for us to go as someone who has experienced tragedy and violence don't leave any unfinished business. Let those you love know it. Hug your kids a little closer, make up quicker with your spouse and let them know they are appreciated. Let your family and friends know they are loved. So fellow classmates of 81 thanks for the friendship, love, memories and for the way you affected and impacted my life.

Jodi

Ramon: VERY IMPRESSIVE! Ahora si voy a estar super al pendiente de los mensajes para pegarle al 1700. Anoche me tome dos shots de Corazon. La noche anterior fue Herradura Anejo. Lo mas increible del buen tequila es que aguanto mucho sin que se me suba y no me da cruda. Hace como un mes me avente 8 shots de Herradura Anejo y como si nada. La unica vez que me ha medio dado cruda fue despues de la reunion - pero me tome 12 shots (nunca pierdo la cuenta). Piensas exportar?

Hey People!
I know you were discussing vital and interesting topics, but please more comments on my webpage: http//:www.fiestaagave.com.mx
Any takers for AHS thursday on October 4th?
I will pledge 1 bottle of Fiesta Agave Silver or Aged(your choice) to mmessage 1700.
Toño: better get a hobby!

Alex McG: have you ever considered a career in diplomatic negotiations? I mean, what if...you went to the Palestinian/Israeli territory and take care of that mess for us?????? The Taliban deal???...forget that one, no negotiating will help those fanatics now.

Question for everyone: What do you do when you have two children who are learning to read in French...and ask Dad to help them...but Dad only knows how to read well in English and Spanish...his French accent sounds like a Spanish cow...they make fun of him because of his accent (the little shits have perfect accents in their three languages)...the oldest child has realized that it is easier to read in Spanish than French (forget English there are too many letters that sound different than even French or...worst, do not have a sound at all) and is thinking very seriously in migrating to her home country (at 7 years old for crying out loud!!!!)...plus when Dad listens to them read...well...has no idea which "s"s, "r"s, "x"s, etc. are pronounced where...and Mom of course gets pissed off because "instead of helping you are messing them up!!!!"?????????? Aaaaand!!!!...aaaaaand!!!!!...Dad's favorite book is THE original "Green Eggs and Ham"?

I know, I know...I am dead.

Hugs and kisses to all,
Toño

Edited by author 09-25-2001 12:02 AM
No chance to log on to this page for way too long!
Cindy P., I enjoyed your proposal of sending all passengers naked to minimize hijackings. First class would get ...slippers? Also, I can understand why you're telling Loya to kindly get out of this board with his "godly" comments. Perhaps you (and others) find the G subject uninteresting, even insulting, or at least Loya's approach to it. Fair enough, but I wouldn't ask him -or anybody else- to leave.

Anybody can say pretty much whatever she/he wants. Maybe the only unwritten rule would be to keep comments more or less on the positive side. By the way, I really hope Susan Gaubeca writes again. And frankly, to read Steve G's and Alex's comments on God, and then read about El Loco Hendrix and Karamazov Brothers is simply amusing. Truly cada loco con su tema.

If someone sees a huge post, written by Loya, and then sees the word God or Jesus in every sentence, well then you pretty much know where you're heading. If you're not interested, go ahead and skip it! I have to admit that's what I've done with a few posts dealing with how to make the baby burp or how to boil the bottle. Not everybody has to read and like every single thing said, much less agree with it. And please don't disappear, just change the subject!

Speaking of bottles, Ingrid, congrats on Xanique!

Sammy, I enjoyed your comments.

Kelly, this page has Eastern time and Sammy is in SF, so it must have been past 1 AM for him.

John B. what's <g>? I tried the dictionary but it says it's "the seventh letter of the English alphabet, and a vocal consonant." <g>

Sammy. I read and enjoyed your message. In Canada people are reluctant to express how the tragedy has affected them on a personal level. They walk about wounded, scared of what might be. They long for the world before September 11. Suddenly a poem by Robert Frost came to mind. It is called Nothing Gold Can Stay.
Nature's first green is gold,
her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower,
but only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

   I agree with you that we should look no further than our own communities. We live ten minutes from Dresden, Ontario. This is where the underground railroad came to rest. Runaway slaves set up entire communities in this area. It was the land of promise. However, Jim Crow also found a home here. The racism here is especially dangerous because its existence is denied. This allows it to live and breed silently in the hearts of "civilized" people.
My apologies for being long winded. Thanks Sammy for the food for thought.

Edited by author 09-22-2001 07:42 AM
Sammy, were you REALLY posting at 4:03AM? I think I was about 5 hours into a great sleep!

Edited by author 09-22-2001 04:04 AM
I was so relieved to know that members of our class were untouched. The birth of babies and the celebration of weddings comes as such a relief and such a reminder of the continuity of life. We need to continue to think that life IS good. Go back and re-reread Cindy's description of the fall in Colorado. So peaceful and beautiful. We need to reconnect to what is beautiful and we need to try as hard as we can to reconnect to our normal routines of daily life.

 It has been two or three weeks since I had a chance to visit this website and it has taken me a while to read over 100 messages. What those of you writing and reading along have done since 9-11-01 (which my mom pointed out to me was on the date 911) is helping each other to "debrief". When we experience unexpected traumatic events our response to crisis will include emotional, mental, physical, and behavioral factors, and the response pattern will vary among individuals based on our past experiences, our support systems, our emotional health at the time of the crisis, our physical health, our beliefs, attitudes, values, and how others in our society respond to the event. In the past 100 messages very little was shared about our personal reactions to what happened and is happening and likely to keep happening.Perhaps we were self-protective by discussing things in more political terms which I think is helpful, but for those of you who may have felt surprised at your own emotional reactions or lack of reaction, let me share some of my experiences. Many of my patients in the past two weeks felt like they were walking through molasses. They felt distracted, unable to concentrate, confused, with numb disbelief and at times with total disengagement, feeling slowed down, irritable, very angry, very scared, vulnerable, fragile, fatigued, restless, etc. (One man vowed to join the Marines). I was called in to debrief a company in San Francisco that deals with the airline industry and had directly been affected in their New York office. The group discussions mirrored those of this website in their struggle with what the U.S. and world response should be. People are talking in restaurants, on the bus, in their homes, etc. It is all a terrific way to cope with the unimaginable.

What has impressed me most, however, is that although people want something to be done, the overwhelming majority of those I have spoken to and read on this website want a careful response. Not just revenge for the sake of feeling momentarily good (which is about as long as revenge ever feels), but a sense of justice. The problem is how? Few good solutions have been proposed and except for the prohibited sharp objects like the box-cutters, none of the security implementations being proposed today could have actually prevented this tragedy. The world and Americans, especially, woke up on Tuesday to the fact that the the US is very vulnerable and has been this way for a long time. The emperor is truly not wearing any clothes. There are 300 immigration officers guarding the 4000 mile border with Canada. How do you protect 4000 miles with a friendly neighbor? Racial profiling will never work. Terrorism has no religion, no color, no particular look. Who bombed Oklahoma City? White, good-looking, blue eyed terrorists are living in our own cities. Hatred is being bred right here. But not only by militias, or people we would associate with extremist fundamentalists. Did anyone catch Falwels speech? He can actually believe God has evil intention to punish particular people He/She disagrees with? Give me a break. Is Jerry Falwel the Osama Bin Laden's mini-me? We want to fight any country that harbors terrorists, well look around your own community and listen to the racism, the hatred, etc. What is the definition of terrorism? How is it different from unbridled racism?

Anyway, I am glad fo the opportunity to write. Sorry itwas such a lengthy message. Once again, I was moved by the healing that can come through discussion and by the ultimate respect people used in responding to Georgina and others. I hope it can continue. Change is possible.

Alex Juarez: I was unaware of my "el loco" designation, but I can't say I'm surprised. There's something lovely about a kickoff. Especially when one is willing to forget about the ball carrier and concentrate on the vic..., I mean, the blocker. Seriously however, I think the years have mellowed me out. I live in MD just outside DC. Any DC metro alumni out there?
John Maroney: The thing I remember most about the San Miguel trip--besides you leaving me at the mercy of the scorpions in the wood pile-- is the "Princesa Piano Bar" where we were seated at a most unusual table and did not have enough cash to pay the bill.

John Hendrix. Do you recall our trip to San Miguel de Allende? It was like an episode of the british comedy "Faulty Towers". The icing on the cake was when the apartment ran out of gas. Those of you that know San Miguel know how cold it can get. It took me a week to return to room temperature. It is a different world.
I hope everyone is doing well. Eventhough we live in the middle of nowhere we are still not immune to the tragedy. My wife Nina works at the University of Windsor which is nestled in the shadow of the mighty Ambassador Bridge linking Detroit to Windsor. Security is very tight because the bridge is considered a potential target. It is the busiest bridge in Canada. Our thoughts are always with those in New York and Washington.

Can anyone tell me whatever happened to Pepino? And does anyone know anything about Eddie Rose? I would welcome any information sent my way. Last I heard of Eddie was that he was ridding Mexico City of rats. "Rodex".

Steve, your comments about the Russian authors have just helped get me interested in reading them. Especially on how the stories relate to the thoughts being expressed by the masses. As soon as I finish my current novels, I'll pick up Dostoevsky's book (don't currently have it in my home library).

Cindy, CARNITAS!!! Can't wait...BTW, I won the Tequila bottle on the Class of '80 site. We should get together again to share it when it arrives. Any planned CO get-togethers? I'm off to Kauai at the end of next week and a week after that I'm off to Vegas. Thoughts?

Alex Loya: I would like to politely remind you that your classmates requested that you move discussions about religion to the subtopic "About God". This avoids any insults to our non-Christian classmates, and in addition, since the relgion topic tends to be very winded, we loose a lot of readers when you and others go into a long explanations.If you could please post the "About God" website, I sure you will find other AHS'ers whom are more than willing to discuss this topic at this point on THAT website. Thanks

Hey John H. Good to hear from you. Do you remember we used to call you "El Loco Hendrix", you were a mad man in kick offs......
Where do you live?
Saludos

John B: You've read quite a stack of books there yourself. In mentioning Dostoevsky I run the risk of sounding a little on the sophisticated side, you know, with name-dropping and all that, but, to be honest, I refer to him because he's made such an impression on me. I can't imagine a better presentation of the clash of ideas than in his *Karamazov Brothers*--I mean ideas about faith and doubt, good and evil, heaven and hell . . . Which brings me to say hello to . . .

Alex Loya: Thanks for the welcome to this chat! You mentioned my yearbook page. You'll forgive a "mish kid" who spent so many years mimicking Christian leaders, I hope, since I sounded pretty pious. I even spoke nicely of coach Everest, who I now think probably needed his head examined back then (maybe just a little). Actually, 20 years later I don't have any less confidence that Jesus is truly coming. And I don't mean this in some more enlightend sense, robbed of scandal. Too many Christian theologians think that when Jesus ascended into heaven he just used the occasion to empty himself into space, sort of, so now we have a "cosmic" Christ who is the one who is coming. In that sense a whole slew of Christians will agree that "he's coming" as the "Omega point" at which all religions converge and the reign of God finally comes. I think that's misguided. So the hope you and I share is that "this same Jesus", Jesus of Nazareth, who came as a servant, is the one who is coming as judge of all nations, including these blessed United States of ours whose collective, lowest-common-denominator God has more to do with "the force" or the God of Voltaire, I fear.

But I don't think the hope you and I share has to be wrapped up with a view of the end of history as already being upon us. The "last days", for Christians at least, began nearly 2000 years ago. Now obviously this is the subject of all kinds of discussion and debate, but in the immediate and practical realm, given recent events, it's too easy to go cherry picking, as they say, through the Bible for texts that point to today's headlines as belonging to the final day. Now maybe the world really does have to "go up in smoke" in the last Act of history. But an attitude that, by golly, it's going to do just that seems to me more of a gnostic, rather than Christian, conviction. After all, if Jesus' resurrection and ascension tell us anything, it's that flesh, bones and matter are to be taken up into God's purposes, not cast aside ultimately. And then when it comes to our eternal destiny depending on whether or not we had a chance to hear the gospel of Jesus, I would say that the essential "hiddenness" or mystery of divine election makes it really hard to decide in the here and now who is in and who is out. We might have a certain peace or inner confidence ourselves that one day we were on the wrong road and now, by grace, we're on the right one . . .

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Hello my friends. You guys are starting to yap like the class of 82! I would have to agree with padre McGrath, the first man who ever pointed me to the Lord now is a good time to begin thinking about eternity, our lives could be snuffed out any second! I am concerned for America, I think we might see more bloodshed within our borders, but non of this is beyond God's control. Check this Scripture out my good friend Vince Vuskovich pointed out to me;

"...in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall" Isaiah 30:25

When Vince pointed that out to me my eyeballs just about popped out their sockets! Then I noticed its context, both immediate and broader context. The broader context says that this specific tragedy, the great slaughter because of the falling down of the towers, says that the tragedy was actually a consequence, a judgememnt, because the people of the nation

"will not hear the law of the Lord, which say to the ...prophets, 'prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits" Isa.30:9-10

Not too many people today want to hear the Word of the Lord, many people rather hear lies. It just makes me wonder... The good thing, however, is that the immediate context speaks of God healing this terrible wound, in the next verse, I pray He will indeed heal our wound! But the Bible never ceases to amaze me! Notice how God described the character of the Arabic peoples from the very beginning, when their ancestor Ishmael was conceived,

"He will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand will be against him" Genesis 16:12

What really concerns me, yet it does not worry me, is the prophecy looming on the horizon which speaks of a war very soon before the return of Christ to earth, in which an army of 200 million men will participate and 1/3 of the earth's population will die. The reason it concerns me is because with all this going on the Chinese have been threatening to take over Tai-wan and have threatened us with nuclear war within the last year, and just last year they reached the goal Mao boasted of 30 or so years ago, they now have the capability, they have 200 million men ages 15 through 49 that are military capable, according to the C.I.A. report. I would not be surprised if the Chinese, once we are engaged in Afghanistan, will attempt to take over Tai-wan and we will have to step in and they will make good on their threat and send some nukes our way and we will respond and blow all that area off the map, which alone does have at least 1/3 of the earth's population! And all of this may happen within the next few months! I think the outcome of this war will be that people will cry out for global government, they will criminalize religious exclusiveness and make not only fundamentalist Muslims criminals, but fundamentalist Christians like padre McGrath and Carol and myself as well for saying and telling you that Jesus is the only way, from this tragedy somehow the Jews will be allowed to build their Temple on the Temple Mount again, sharing it with the Muslims, and to restore Old Testament animal sacrifices. There will arise a great global leader who will come like a man peace, by peace he will destroy many because his ideas and leadership wiil appear good, but he will lead people away from Christ with peace, he will be the Antichrist, don't follow him, he will stand in the rebuilt Jewish Temple, stop the sacrifices and claim to be the Messiah. Don't believe it! 3 1/2 years of terrible catastrophe will follow, the U.N. will invade Israel with the excuse to help the Palestinians (they already threatened Israel, the U.N.) and then the Lord will come back. How's that for a quick class on eschatology? Truly, like the Lord said "Perilous times shall come" but remember, "The fear of the Lord brings security to a man and his family" and "Whoso trusteth in the Lord shall be safe"
I am praying for all of you, that the Lord will grant that I see your faces in heaven.
with love,
Alex
Hey, Steve G.! For the longest time I thought when you wrote on your senior page "The King is coming" I thought you were talking about Elvis! The day I was born again I realized you were talking about Jesus! Good to have you here! John M. good to have you hear too! I will purchase your wife's book, sounds very interesting! Hendrix! Da-a-a-a-a-ave!

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Steve, unfortunately I have not read him at all. I've been remis in expanding my literature base beyond early American and Mexican literature. In the contemporary space, I've had a need to keep up with techincal, managerial, and business realms. As far as contemporary novels, recent authors include Le Carre, Clancy, Koontz, King, Straub, Cook, and of course, Scott Adams (of Dilbert Fame).

When reading the article again, I would agree, it is not totally without preaching, but don't we all do it in some form or another? Especially when we're trying to get our point across <g>.

Many thanks to those of you who had nice comments and made me feel welcome to this message board. I realize many of you have kept in touch through the years, but for me it's really great to see these old names and old faces peering back from my dusty yearbooks. It reminds me of how I felt once when I returned to Mexico City after not having seen the place for eleven years.
Hey, Paul. It's been a while. I'll see about making it to Florida. I'll let you know concretely.
Saludos a todos.

We finally settled on a place for the mini-reunion in Florida. Indications right now point towards a crowd of 20 to 30 people. We are going to get together on Friday, October 12th at a place called Bahia Cabana - it's a bar/restaurant on the marina in Fort Lauderdale.

The address is 3001 Harbour Drive, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316 (check Mapquest.com for directions). Tentative start time is 6:30 PM. We're going to seal off an area on the dock so please advise if you are going to make it - you can confirm attendance at my EM address - pdfreud@aol.com.

There is a hotel on-site. If you want to play it safe and not have Florida's finest host you that evening, you can make reservations at 954.524.1555. There is also a Sheraton Yankee Clipper right beside the property, I am getting info on that property as well.

Hope to see y'all there. Corran la voz - it's open to all AHS alumni.

Thanks, John, for the link to that article! His challenge to consider ourselves co-responsible for evil (if that's the right way to put it) reminds me of a similar idea held by the saintly monk Zosima in Dostoevsky's *Karamazov Brothers*. Maybe you've read it too? The professor's questions are really to the point. But I'm not sure I'd say he wasn't preaching: "But if we can begin to hear [the questions]— if we can feel ourselves bound to all other people in a single global garment of destiny — we can start to heal the evil". Sounds non-preachy, but the conviction that we humans have the capacity to heal ourselves as we make our rounds through this great "circle of life" is apparently taken for granted. A more subtle way of preaching?

I thought I would share something with you all that I encountered in my many readings in the last week.

Instead of posting the entire article, what follows is a link to an editorial from the Boulder Daily Camera of last Sunday. The author is a professor of Religious Studies at the University of Colorado. I think it deserves a broader audience than it may have found. Surrounded by frightening analysis and opinion it stood out as an example of how the tone of a piece can invite the reader into serious introspection without preaching. I felt free to engage these difficult ideas with personal resolve rather than the idealistic outrage forced upon me by other pieces. Tone can be a simple and powerful tool.

Read if you'd like: http://www.bouldernews.com/opinion/guest/16eguest2.html

Elena - you are in my old stomping grounds. I used to work right there at Ravinia, back when I was in the hotel business (there were a lot of us, weren't there?). Don't think I'll be able to see you this trip...tomorrow night we have Andy's birthday dinner, and he and Dani have father/daughter camping with the girl scouts, on Friday. Call me though, and we can catch up!

This is beginning to sound like the fawning looneytoon chipmunks.

Elena; My pleasure. Glad you are back home ok.

Johnny: Must warn you about my back hand....

George: You are the one that I must thank for being understanding.

Georgina: You are SO awesome to offer us your home and car. Fortuately Craig and I were able to drive his rent car back to Dallas. We spent nights in Phoenix, El Paso and Abeline, getting to Dallas at noon on Monday. We picked up the dog and then I went into my client's office for the rest of the day. Then got home, did laundry so we could repack for our trip today to Atlanta. Thankfully the flight was on time and uneventful. We are now here till Friday

Kelly: We are staying Tues-Fri at the Crown Plaza Ravina on Ashford Dunwoody. Aren't we near you? Not sure if the business will take up our every dinner but maybe we can get together with you and Andy?? My cell is 214-679-7136 and I will try to call you too.

John B - your "security" stories are scary indeed. DFW was nearly empty. But I too commented on the ditzy chick doing the checks.

Ingrid: Congrats on Xanique. What a beautiful name and what great news that Tirso was able to link up with you again. I am very happy for you and thanks for sharing the good news at a time when we all need it. Word of advice, if you feel a hormonal drop, I highly recommend a banana milk shake with lots of vanilla ice cream! The Dr. ordered Tessy to have it after Karina, our second, was born and it revived her.

John: I also enjoyed myself tremendously in the hotel industry. I went to Cornell's hotel school and got to work at Hilton Intn'l in Amsterdam, Montreal and Puerto Rico during my summers. While in Puerto Rico, I stayed with Lissi Obermann's dad at the Dupont Plaza in San Juan - he passed away a few years ago; I felt like I lost a father as he was my mentor and a really genuine person. Thereafter I joined L&H as a consultant until they went belly up by mis-auditing Jim Baker and then I moved over to be Operations Analyst at the Sonesta Key Biscayne with a weekend job at Sr. Frogs in Coconut Grove. I enjoyed it tremendously but had always wanted to go into a more intellectually stimulating and better paying environment - so I returned to school to get an MBA. As I look back, working in hotels gives young people the ability to manage a P&L and to learn invaluable business and people skills while having the ability to travel the world. It's like joining the army but without having to get shot at.

Okay, not to alarm anyone (okay, maybe some) but even today security measures in place will not make you completely safe in the air. I have several consultants working for me from various parts of the country flying into Denver. They have recounted the various experiences from Mondays airport travels and let me tell you, they are humorous to outright ridiculous. For example, one person ended up with someone else's ticket from the get-go at the ticket counter. He ended up going through two security checkpoints where he had to show his ID and ticket and both times they missed it. It wasn't until he got to the gate and was about to board when he noticed the incorrect name on his boarding pass. It just goes to show you that the security you'll be offered will be as good as those exercising the security measures. Though this may have been a isolated incident, it does make you wonder about Cindy's suggestion. How far do we have to go? Do we stick to just straight racial profiling or does everyone go through a strip search prior to boarding any flight? When will enough be enough?

In the meantime <snicker> -- yeehaw, round up the possey -- <snicker>. (Is that really a comment I want to hear from the President of the US?)

Cindy: Oh know! What an image...the horror, oh, the horror...

So does anyone else think that maybe if we all had to fly naked we would be safer because it would be harder to hide weapons?

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Georgina: Just get that forehand up to speed! I too like you, was not taking this personally. I enjoy the debate. It is wonderful to here the different opinions and to intellectually debate the issues that are affecting us today. Isn't that the point of getting back into communication together?

Anacecilia and Ingrid: Glad your husbands made back home safely.

Ingrid: Congratulations on Xanique. I am glad that Tirso finally made it.

Georgina: Thanks for understanding.

No tuve chance de checar el chat ayer. Wow, lots of activity!

Johnny boy: Just had a wonderful time on the tennis court (Tuesday mornings, 8-9)!. Every time a play I think about how much time we have left 'til our match: 4.5 more years? Makes me nervous...

George: Thanks for your comments, as usual, you are always right on target - as precise as on the dance floor! I'm always up for a good debate, however, I agree that this was starting to get out of hand and even though everyone has a right to read and write whatever they please, it's a good idea not to get too carried away like we have. If we keep it up someone will end up feeling insulted. I must admit, I do have incredibly thick skin and I am not good at being very sensitive.

Ingrid: Que padre que Tirso llego al hospital! Muchisimas felicidades!

John b. LOL! I feel the same way about Hac____da! (It scares me just to say it).

Ingrid, te oyes super contenta, disfrutalo mucho pero acuerdate de Tirso!

John got home early today. Porfin! Poor guy has been asleep all day! so I haven't asked him if the Duty Free stores were open. (no, no soy tan materialista) but if you think about all you can buy there, they are all potential weapons. (booze bottles, perfume bottles, pens etc etc) There are also restaurants beyond the check points, with knifes and forks. I wonder if they had a check point right at the gate? Y si le sirvieron con cubiertos su cena.

John H. what you wrote makes a lot of sense. I liked how you put it.

Carol, I liked what you wrote but it made me also realize that the world has not changed in 2000 years. For the jewish people, it hasn't changed in 50??, It saddens me to think that it probably never will.
My grandfather was born around the revolution, I'm sure my great grandparents asked themselves "what type of a world are we bringing this kid into?", Mi mama a principios de WWII, same question. We were born in 1963, same question. y ahora, con nuestros bebes, same question! All we need to think is that life IS good and that we will all survive this and move on so that Julia y nuestros hijos can some day, ask themselves... the same question.

Ingrid: Congratulations! What wonderful inspirational joy!

Mike B: Yes we do. I put myself through college working in the hotel industry. When I wasn't in school, I was at work, and visa-versa, as you probably understand. After college I hit the work full force, really loving the 70+ work week (I was a resident manager at the Dupont Plaza Hotel). It wasn't until I went to the birthday party of an Class of '82 AHS alumni for a weekend in L.A. that I realized I just skipped out of five years of a social life. It was then that I decided to leave the hotel industry and change my priorities to and provide a balance into my life. However, I miss the industry tremendously. I still enjoy playing host and planning events both at home and in the office.

Alex and Carol: I agree with you both. No-one's God is to blame. But I am curious, do you think it is wise for President Bush to continue to refer to his God in his speaches along side with the "war" rhetoric? Could that also incite others to believe the US has a religious purpose to go after those responsible?

On a side note, I was chuckling to myself as I heard about all the changes and new laws being proposed to deal with terrorism in this country (the US). One in particular got me thinking. Apparently there is a proposal to create a law that makes it a crime to provide monitary support for any organization that supports terrorism. For example, it would be a crime to donate money to a third-world day care center if the center was part of an organization that supported terrorism (hard to measure but nonetheless could happen). Now I don't want to go on a rant about civil liberties, etc., but what struck me funny is that for years I've felt the IRS was an organization that supported terrorism through their auditing process. So, would I be able to get away from paying taxes if I felt that I was commiting a crime by providing monetary gains to the IRS?

Hello to all.

Well my baby girl, XANIQUE was born on Thursday September 13th, 2001 at 00:45 a.m.
She came buttox first into this worldÉ. I guess we know where she stands, or what her opinion is (LOL).
What an incredible experience!!!
Xanique was born weighing 7 pounds 3 oz, and she measured 20 inches. She looked beautiful at birth, her round face, her pink skin, and those beautiful slightly slanted eyes.
(You can tell I'm a mother in love).

Tirso was unable to attend the cesarean-birthÉbut he made it to the hospital to be with us after. :) !!!!
We came home yesterday, September 17th. Laura and Gema, who are Xanique's step sisters were SOOOOOO excited and happy to greet her.
I highly recommend it to all the girls out thereÉhave a baby, what an incredible gift we have, to give life.
Anyway, I just wanted to drop a note to you all, and now I must resume my duties as a new momÉ. Who is learning the art of breastfeeding.

My condolences to all of you for the horrible events of this past September 11th.

A kiss to all.

This chat page is really picking up speed. Susan, John H. Alex M. Cindy P, John B. and Fernando, I commend you for some very well thought out responses. It's good to see that you have all improved with age and yet kept the open mind that having grown up in the AHS fosters. George O., I think I also missed the point. Susan has much the right to express herself here as anyone.

Interesting fact heard yesterday on NPR, in Saudi Arabia 1/3 the population is black, 1/3 is brown skinned and 1/3 have fair complexion.

John B., I saw that we both have an hotelier background, followed by an urge to get out of an industry that has the highest divorce rate due to the high time requirements. Not to mention low pay.

Ferd: I heard from Marc that you guys are going to celebrate Fritz' 60th bday this weekend. Have a great time but don't venture out into the red-light district!!!

Thanks to Alex and Carol for their thoughts! You certainly don't avoid the "scandal" of Jesus in our pluralistic societies. Seems like talk about God is often in the abstract. As it turned out in some public debates here in Canada, a politician who created a minor scandal by speaking of Jesus was actually defended by a Muslim leader. The latter expected Christians to bring their particular convictions to the public forum. One thing I hope for, as calamities drive us more and more into our ghettoes, is that we'll be able to maintain some civility in discussing things that matter to us.

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Fernando: Dear old friend, read it again. You missed the point. Write to me at geoortes@yahoo.com

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George, I am sorry to have to say I totally disagree with you. I am a member of the class of ’81 (old timer I might add) so I feel I have as much say here as anyone else, and if this message board is going to be limited to wedding, birth, and death announcements I for one will probably stop checking in out of pure boredom. I have said it before, and I will say it again: So as long as the messages are not insulting or offensive (i.e. personal attacks on some one), everything in this message board should be allowed. As part of a community of intelligent individuals I would hate to see us intentionally put ourselves in a glass bubble to protect ourselves from anything that could potentially be disturbing to some.

Of course wedding and birth announcement are always refreshing and very welcomed!

Totally agree God is not to blame for this. This one's got human fingerprints all over. That's what makes it scary. Each in his own way, we all have an amazing capacity for destruction. We're all capable of executing our own little terrorist attacks on ourselves for whatever dumb reason, destroying our precious things, what we love, the ones who love us, our own lives. We can help ourselves or be helped by others to a certain point, but it is only by having a personal relationship with God that we can find a real solution to our life.

It's not about being strong or trying really hard to become better people, we've probably had enough of that. It's about the exact opposite, about letting God fix our life, surrendering everything to Him and giving Him a chance to help us out. He's the one who is going to give you the strength to live the way you never could, and the inner peace we need.

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." This is an invitation made by a real God. The only way of proving this is by opening the door.

Hi all. I hope everyone is feeling a little better. I wanted to share the contents of a homily I heard last week while attending mass. They really spoke to my heart.

The priest talked about how horrible the terrorist acts had been. But he reminded us that the worst act ever committed in human history (past, present, and future), was the crucifixion of Jesus. He was a sinless man, Son of God, the Lamb of God, who was innocent, and yet took on the entire sin of humanity on himself, to reconcile mankind with God. He defeated sin and death and made it possible for believers to be saved through Him. And what did Jesus do as he hung on the cross??? He forgave those who did it.
What a great lesson and example Jesus is.

The priest went on to explain that there is a great difference between justice and vengance. God said "vengance is mine". We should not seek vengance, but justice.

These words have meant a lot to me in the last few days and I hope they enlighten others as well.

Carol

David: Good to see your note here too! Philmont, yes... What are you up to? I see my email hasn't been added to the class of '81 list, so here it is: steven.griffin@mail.mcgill.ca
Just a query on the protocol here, since I'm a little confused now as to what's appropriate for discussion and what isn't. I enjoy good discussion, even though I tend to be brief. But I'd be disappointed if certain
questions were dismissed out of hand, since I'm not so good at holding "feelings" etc. (welcome here) and
"ideas" (apparently for yahoo debates) firmly apart. My impression was that John's comments were quite
civil--as are those of others here in general.
The "God question" has been raised, for instance, in light of what we all know about; in fact articles here and there ask directly: where is God in all of this? I can't hide the fact that, as a student of theology, my feelings and my intellect go pretty much together here in having a lively interest in the question.

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Susan: Nothing to be sorry about. It was getting too hot. Didn't want, it to come to this.

John: Read the topic of the forum. If you like to express your ideas go to CNN.
     This is a place for friendship, weddings, births, mourning, help, comfort, advice, comunication, to express our feelings. We even have our own shrink (right Sammy). If you read all the messages; everytime when the topics gets out off hand we tone it down. Because we are friends. WE don't take things personal here like you do. If you like a debate yahoo has a chat for it. Alex Loya and me and maybe somebody else I'm forgetting in our class have a special intrest in it. Because we can be called to duty any minute. I don't mind Georgina and Alex Mc discussing it as friends. Both have valuable pionts of view. But I mind if it heats up. Because this is not the place. This is the last time I will mention this subject.

Greetings, everyone.

I'd like to chime in, if I may with a couple of points about this business of how to respond to the tragedy that we've experienced.

First, I agree with those that have pointed out that the root causes of the attacks on NY and DC must be considered as we debate how devastating and extensive our military response must be.

I fear that we are reacting largely out of emotion when we so eagerly embrace the rhetoric coming out of the White House and reverberating in the media, and that we do so to our detriment. "America's New War", our quest to "rid the world of evil" may do little more than worsen the situation by confirming to millions of people across the planet from us that we are indeed "the great Satan", as they watch on their televisions the images of our own destructive power unleashed in all its glory.
 
I think it would be better if we could find enough international cooperation and support to punish and jail those responsible for this particular act, through an international court and with a minimum of death and destruction. We need a delicate surgical procedure here, not an amputation.
  
The main concern, it seems to me, should be the huge PR problem that we have with people of many nationalities who perceive us as exploitative, arrogant, destructive, and generally the bad guys of the world. As long as we are perceived this way, we will have enemies, and some of our enemies will always find a way to hurt us.
I don't see how a military campaign, no matter how successful in its destruction of the enemy (short of total anihilation) and in its rewriting of the geopolitical picture of a whole region could actually succeed in eradicating terrorism. On the contrary, I think that it would merely compound the problem as it creates more martyrs and more reasons to hate the United States.

Rash, emotional responses to problems are almost always a bad idea. The breaking of windows in mosques and the harrassment and even murder of people --somehow clumsily associated with the enemies in America's War-- are acts of utter stupidity by people who have let their souls be poisoned by the same venom that afflicted the terrorists, the intoxicating elixir of hate that promises to make us feel better if we just drink a little more, hit a little harder.

And finally, I don't think that racial profiling is a good idea. Did we not learn anything from the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII? And what if the terrorists looked like us? Who is "us"? Are Arab-Americans not "us"? What about Mexican-Americans?

We are us. And we are better than all of this. I truly hope.

Georgina: Oh, and one last thing before you ask <g>: I do donate blood on a regular basis (as my many gallon pins would attest to) but unfortunately I gave last month and I can't donate blood for a couple of more. As to monitary, there are many ways I am contributing there including in the fund we've openned here at work <g>.

George O: I'm sorry but we're all guests here. This is a public forum. All we've asked that those posting here properly identify themselves. The exception is Dale Reed who is the topic administrator and is endowed with certain unaliable rights to delte/modify messages being posted here that are not our own (please read as a tongue-in-cheek point). In other words...topics here can be address as one seems fit. If a majority of folks wish the topic to be dropped and the topic administrator concurs, so be it, let's drop it. One of the lessons I've learned at AHS is that debate is healthy, and the mixture of cultures and point of views that AHS provided only enriched our lives and allowed us to become even more tolerable human beings.

Susan: I don't believe you've offended anyone as your comments were not directed to anyone specifically, and you're making very valid points. Please keep them coming.

Georgina: You too are making valid points so please do not stop, my disagreement with your points notwithstanding. This debate is healthy though some of the point of views being expressed may be scary. You're not responsible for my or anyone else's emotions though we may all choose to react differently to commments being express here. Now to address your question -- I do not believe racial profiling is an answer. I believe in hunting down and eradicating those responsible but not creating police state in our country. I too have been a victim of racial profiling in the name of my own protection. I did not agree with it then, nor do I agree with it now. I prefer a more direct approach to the situation. The US government has a list of potential terrorist available to them as you've mentioned. If Israel feel that there are over 200 terrorist harbored in our own country, let them be identified and target them. Last time I checked we are all innocent until proven guilty in this society. I do not wish for that to change. If so, sooner or later all of our civil liberties are at risk of dissapearing and we become just like those countries that you've targeted as being oppressive. The "war against terrorism" cannot be won unless you target every country that commits a terrorist act. Not only the countries but the ideas, the same ideas that have given you the freedom of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What is a terrorist act anyway? Yes, we've been attacked, and the guilty must be punished. Religious ideology and zealots are responsible in this case, but is is so in almost every case. Some small, and I mean small, factions of pro-life activists have terrorized innocent victims and have killed doctors in this country. Does that as part of the terrorist threat we should attack and kill every pro-lifer to eraticate the posibility that they may be the next terrorist delivering a bomb to the health clinic we visit?

My suggestion, and it is not an original one, is to not just attack and eradicate those responsible for the events of last week, but to also approach the problem from the source. Oppresive governments are the problem. Find and support the population of AFGAHANISTAN, SYRIA, PAKISTAN, IRAQ, IRAN, LIBYA, AND LEBANON which want the freedoms we share. Is this wishful thinking or impossible to succeed? Perhaps, but so is the thought that we would ever be able to eradicate terrorism through brute force or through racial profiling in the hope of destroying the threat completely. We're already seeing that terrorism comes from in different forms, creed, and societies. Aren't the rash of bomb threats a form of terrorism that has risen in our society here lately? Are all of these threats coming just from members sympathetic to Bin Laden? I don't believe so and as such I don't think starting to bomb the cities or neighborhood communities where these are coming from is the answer.

Alright, now I'll get off of my soapbox and rest for a while. I haven't even begun addressing the ills religion has brought onto our society. In there I do agree with you Georgina <g>. But I will leave that topic to the "About God" QuickTopic board <g>.

Margarita: I do remember Mike. Have you turned him on to this board yet? On another note, Cheryl Hammond, the Project Manager for the Pentagon Renovation Project, had an honorable mention as a hero here at Corporate Express for her decision to have the folks exit the Pentagon prior to the attack. Pretty neet to have her identified in our corporation. Please forward to her our thanks.

To all: so where are the uplifting weekend Mexican celebration stories? My wife, daughter, and I celebrated rather peacefully enbibing in some Mexican comida and tequila. Okay, my daughter didn't but she really enjoys 'tillas' and frijoles.

Okay. Sorry if I offended anyone.

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Susan: Let's drop the subject. Please! Remeber you are a guest.

Georgina: Racial profiling is good? As long as it prevents terrorist attacks? Let's define your proposition.

To what extent is racial profiling good? Are you thinking I don't mind if they detain me for hours and question me if it safeguards my passage? Well, heck we can all live with that. But..

How about: I don't mind if I get pushed in a room with other women (ah heck why separate the sexes, let's be more efficient) with others, asked to strip, allow myself to be searched in all orifices, before being allowed on the plane. ( You don't think this happens? Ask anybody who has gotten a Green Card in the US Embassy in Mexico, what was their medical exam like?) How about: we put you away in a "holding" camp, don't allow you to see your children for one, two, or as many years it takes until we are sure that you're not one of them. This way we are doubling protecting you (who would dare attack you with our guards surrounding you?). (This is a generic "you": not really you personally, no te vayas a ofender, s—lo te quiero hacer pensar un poco las consecuencias.)

Your statements are scarry to me, because once it starts and people accept it without thought, it can get out of hand. And if it gets out of hand, then it's too late for anybody to do anything about it.

I do have a proposition: let brains beat the brawn. I think we have the intelligence and the best historic opportunity now. Let's not waste it. (See Class of '80 site for suggestions if interested).

I had not logged on for a long time and it was great to read that everyone was doing well (all things considered). In times of tragedy like these, all that I know how to do is to pray. To pray for healing, comfort, love, understanding, and wisdom for all of the world leaders.

Steve: It was great to hear about your whereabouts. Juan Casillas and I were wondering about you. We had not heard from you since we went to Philmont!

Alex McGrath: It was refreshing to see a posted message which was just that... a posted message welcoming old friends to this message board. I spoke to John Hendrix for the first time in 18 years and he is is doing fine. He plans to make the trip up north to visit my family. It should be fun. This tragedy reminds us that getting in touch with old buddies is a good idea.

To all the graduates of 81, keep the spirit.

Long time no post.

Kelly, my condolences. God bless.

Ingrid, congrats! Sorry to hear Tirso did not make it on time.

Mike, no, I did not meet Nathalie at your wedding. I met her at Ronnie’s. I was too wasted at yours to meet anyone (or anything).

Carol, glad to hear your mom is doing better. Hope that by now she is close to getting rid of the chair/walker (or that she has in fact already gotten rid of them).

Profiling is good?!! I guess some of you have not been the constant target of this kind of thing, but I can assure you it is not pleasant, and sometimes it borders on insulting. Often when I have had to apply for a residence or working permit on this part of the world I have been submitted to some pretty outrageous and crazy demands, like for example having my finger prints and mug-shots taken of me as if I was a criminal.

It is also impressive to see the level of commitment expressed by some here to get rid of terrorism. If, God forbid, “smoking out and finding the terrorists” does not turn out to be as simple as some might think, and this war goes on for say some 20 plus years, I wonder how many of us would encourage our children to join the army and go fight terrorists over seas for the good of our children? (i.e. themselves. Or at that point would it then be for the good of their children)?

Final thought: Based on some comments posted here I gather people think we must be socially years behind all these terrorist groups – why they have already been teaching their children for decades (centuries) that such and such race is evil ant the only way to deal with them is to exterminate them. And while I am 100% pro US and anti-terrorists, please stop and think REALISTICALLY for just one second all the atrocities the US has participated in over the years, and then tell me if we should really expect the perpetrated on to understand that it was done “in the name of humanity” (implying they are not humans since it was done against them?), thank us, and go about their business happily? Naah, that might not be so realistic after all.

Ingrid congratulations.

Kelly, I am sorry.

Margarita, likewise.

Geor: With all the respect your passion deserves...that is not the way. Terrorism should be stopped as well as racism, prejudism, and bigotry. It is an extremely complex issue since everyone is involved...everyone. Think about it...who helped this guy have so much power, where does that money come AND CAME from, where did this insane person received his training, why didn't anyone do anything before (i heard someone warn about this region nine months ago, someone in the european foreign affairs area, starting from violation of human rights, cultural destruction, and terrorism, from what i understood everyone looked the other way including and leading were the UK and the USA because it did not fall within their political agenda. An AGENDA for crying out loud!). The issue is so complex that ANYTHING that will be done (big or small) will directly affect a portion of the allied or supporting countries. PLUS it is such a delicate matter that a misstep will create a conflict of which we have not yet foreseen the proportions. And the probabilities of a misstep in this issue are very high. As I understand it right now, the USA is in the process of preparing an extremely complicated brain surgery and for that...you can't just grab the first swiss army knife and start the operation. There is no doubt things will activate, and there is no doubt we are all going to be much more vulnerable for a counterattack than seven days ago (but Geor I am sorry to remind you that we ALL have always been vulnerable) and from my standpoint...One thing I would not like to be right now in this world is a terrorist group (big or small) because for all of them it is the time where..."the shit is going to hit the fan".

love to all
toño

sorry, no time for funny stories lately.

Georgina, I agree, God is just a pretext, but...

Did I tell you look a lot like the very very lovely Arabian you so much condemn? We as Mexican should be aware that we are descendants of those Arabs that conquered the Spaniards before they even conquered us Mexican!

In short, racial profiling is defintely NOT GOOD!

Susie: I have been listening to some radio talk shows. Amazing how everyone wants an answer from God. Why did He let this happen? In my opinion -and I am not religious_ this has nothing to do with God. It is simply a chemical imbalance in some crazy people's brains.

It’s good to hear that all these friends, family are OK. Welcome to the chat John Hendrix, Steve Griffin and whoever else was ignored during this dark week. Hope everybody finally made it back home. Kelly S, sorry to hear about your father-in-law and dad. Totally agree with John Diederich that life as we know it has forever changed. Things are becoming ugly very fast, it might be a good time to consider God as the answer for our lives.
Happy Jewish New Year.

Mike B: Gracias por tus compliments. You're absolutely right, I have always been very passionate about certain things (gorrones y gente que se aprovecha de los demas & terrorirsm). I actually tend to be pretty laid back about life in general but when it comes to certain issues (gorrones & terrorists) I have no problem speaking my mind! I don't encourage violence to my chidren, but, man, this deal is just unreal. Fortunately they are still too small to really understand, even though our 4 year old (Rebecca), has figured it out that a lot of people died in NYC because of an airplane crash. She is quite familiar with NYC because uncle Julio lives there. However, as they grow up and begin understanding we hope to lead them down the path of being good citizens and good people (in other words, no se vale ser gorron o terrorista!).

Anaceci: Que bueno que John esta bien. En realidad nunca he experimentado ningun tipo de comentario despectivo con respecto a mi o a mis hijos en USA. Por lo contrario, soy la envidia de mis cunadas y amigas por tener la piel morena. Ellas se la pasan en los "tanning booths".

Susie: Claro que me acuerdo de ti. Y tambien me acuerdo muy bien de Vicky. I guess I really don't understand what is so scarry about my comments. If you read everyone elses', it seems like everyone has the same concerns. The only differece is that I have proposed a plan, which perhaps requires some clarification:
1. Racial profiling is good.
2. Do whatever it takes to anhiliate terrorism.
When I said "arabs have to go" I was referring to racial profiling. Obviously it is not possible to kill all arabs and therefore it would be stupid to even think about it. Actually, that would be completely unamerican (possibly as bad as not liking apple pie). I belieive that so far, over the last 50 years, talking hasn't worked. Things are worse now than ever before. I see no stopping of terrorism within the US unless the INS tracks down each and every arab/muslim to decide weather they may or may not be linked to terrorism. Did you see CNN today? Israel warned the US that there are at least 200 terrorists on US territory. Everyone in this chat room is already profiling people. You are doing it yourself just by commenting on my and my brother's looks. I have forever known I look either middle eastern or Indian and in no way would it bother me to be questioned,pulled aside or whatever you want t ocall it, if it implies increasing safety for the american people. I would be more than happy to do it since that would give me peace of mind that my children will be safe. (BTW my best friend is egyptian - catholic- and her husband was scheduled to be on the AA flight that crashed against the WTC. Fortunatley, he took an earilier flight. She is completely in favor of racial profiling). Now, with regards to the passenger manifesto, please, do not insult my intellingence (or your own). It is clear that a manifesto is not available prior to boarding. It is simply a way to write and say that I would not be willing to be on an airplane with 5 arabs. For 14 years in the AHS some of my best friends were jewish. I now have even more jewish friends than I ever did before. I have always been very sensitive to terrorist acts against them. I am even more sensitive now that those acts have been directed at the american people regardless of religion. I WILL WHOLEHEARTEDLEY SUPPORT ANY MILITARY ACTION AGAINST AFGAHANISTAN, SYRIA, PAKISTAN, IRAQ, IRAN, LIBYA, AND LEBANON AND ANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT THE US INVADES. You see, I have difficulty believing that the majority of people in those countries do not support terrorism. If that were the case, then terrorism would not be progressing like it is. The zapatistas in Mexico have not been able to progress beacuse the mexican people and the mexican government do not support them. Even if the people in these countries are not terrorists themselves, they have supported it throughout the years. And I am sick of it. So, since you so far seem to disagree with all of this, then, what exactly are you proposing? So far all I have heard is criticsm but no real proposals to end this terrorism. Oh, I almost forgot, have you donated blood and money yet? It was a very rewarding experience and I do recommend it. The Red Cross is the place to call.

John: my respond to you is the same as to Susie. What in the world do you propose if it is not racial profiling and military action!??!

John - I was only at the AHS for two years. I was in the class of 82 but many of my closest friends were 81 because I was a JV cheerleader with Jennifer, Elena, Kelly, Jessica, Ann, Yolanda, Fawn (am I forgetting someone?). My brother was in the calss of 81, Mike Woods. We had to move back to the US when I was diagnosed with scoliosis.

Anacecilia: Porsupesto! Having grown up in Queretaro, I should have remembered this as that is where it all started. I still remember the story of the pounding of the heal to alter everyone that the revolution was starting...

I posted the following on Class of 80 site and re-posting it here also because I think if you live in or around Dallas this is a good place to go:
  
"On a lighter note. Last night was the 15th of September and we decided to follow my daughter's initiative: she had gone to a football game the night before, which by the way was centerpiece to a story Ted Koppel did on Nightline on how and why some people were cancelling sporting events and why others were not.

"We went to celebrate along with a lot of friends: the food was excellent, ni se diga que todav’a siento los efectos de una buena tequila, and the mariachis were truly inspiring. (We did remember NYC, with a minute of silence.)

The restaurant's name is Villa Maria, for all of those here in Dallas and surroundings: it's on the corner of Trinity Mills and Marsh, next to Tom Thumb. And I have yet to taste such good authentic food: the chef is French who worked in the "Restaurante del Lago" for seven years! The prices are very good too! Forget Javier's, go here. Vale la pena! (Also it's casual and you can take the kids)."

I agree with Cindy that everybody should be checked and re-checked right now, and if racial profiling can help find those terrorists right now, then let it be. However, we should not take this concept go out of hand. The US has always been prejudist and many of its people are very ignorant. And that is the truth! I can imagine some of the stories Susy could tell. John is from California. Geor, no me digas que a ti en California nunca te han dicho nada. Just this summer, at the summerhome park, a lady looked at Julia and said, " why, she has blue eyes! Isn't the mother mexican?" and I was standing next to her. Is that ignorance or what? This neighboorhood has had "gays" but has never had black people. Well, this "mexican" has a black tenant now. They seem to be "handling" it very well.
Y los Mexicanos no somos nada menos racistas. Cuantos de ustedes sientan a la mesa a su sirvienta? Quiza sea otro tipo de racismo o menos obvio pero tambien somos racistas.

We cannot afford to encourage hate through race any more. It would be going back ages, when there is still a lot of work left to be done.

John, you are 1/2 right! El grito is on the 15th, late at night, the party goes on to the 16th when there's the desfile etc. (you probably remember it because it was on the 16th that we didn't have school), aunque siempre se hacia el "puente". Boy, I miss those times!

BTW, my husband and I work a lot with the immigrant community as health providers and although in premise I do support American policy, unfortunately there are some elements that are in charge of enforcing the policy that are extremely biased.

I have more horror stories to tell w.r.t. to INS, but I find that I can't even tell people about it anymore. Why? Because I have found most people react with apathy, or a "if it doesn't concern me I don't care" attitude.

I think if you knew the extent of some of the injustice these officials perpetrate in our name you would be shocked...

Don't miss the point: my fear is that it might not stop at just "profiling".

And although it might seem good to do it short term to reduce risk, in the long run it might make a lot of people who are now with us, go against us.

Calculate that cost...

I do agree with you that the risk is everywhere, not only with the recent zealots, but including the militants in Montana. And hence profiling, if done at all, should include them.

I call for calm and reason, that is all.

AnaCeci: Good to talk to you as well. The reunion in May now seems like it was ages ago.
John: I definately look forward to some carnitas and a Negra Modelo. Si hablamos esta semana.

Racial profiling? Is that so bad right now? I would willing to be stopped for my appearance now. I am willing to have my bags turned upside down and stand a line of questioning at the airport. (I have gone through this three times in my life when I was traveling alone with medical equiptment). I was born in Peru, but I travel on an American passport. I have been stopped for over an hour in US customs. That is a small price to pay for trying to find exisiting terrorists in this country. The Denver Post yesterday said that a few of these terrorists where living in Florida and San Diego nice neighboorhoods. Their children played with their neighbors children!! Can you imagine? I think in the 21st century we are more tolerant of the diffences in race and religion in our country--but not tolerate of terrorists whether they are Arab, Asian, Hispanic or Caucasian. Why wasn't it called racial profiling when they where looking for white militant males (and the Montana militia) after Oklahoma? They weren't stopping hispanics or middle eastern males then. If you have nothing to hide, you should be proud to stand up to the plate and prove you have nothing to hide--we need to get used to that--our country is changing!
Fall is slowly coming to the Rocky Mountains. On a walk with my 3 dogs and my daughter yesterday I witnessed the sunset over the Rockies, and I watched until the mountains took on a purple hue as twilight took over the sky. The aspen leaves are turning golden--a wonderful sight as they twinkle like bells in the wind. Where I live (at 8500)it is pretty common to see lots of redtail hawks and golden eagles. Yesterday we had one lone bald eagle circle over the house and slowly fly away. I recount what Kelly said, today IS a good day.
Bruce Camino ('77) made a couple of good points on the 80 website. AHS taught us to be independent thinkers and questioners and as such, it gave us skills to become leaders in this world. We need to support our government as it attempts to make our airports and streets more secure! We need to volunteer and help others as needed. Donate money, supplies, food. We need to be patient with one another as we "unload" our emotions of sorrow, anger, guilt, revenge. But most of all, support our nation, and put up with some inconviences for now. It is a small price to pay.

Georgina: Between you and Julio (see class of 80), you have us scared. But I don't know if I'm more scared of you or of the zealots.

Be careful: unfortunately people do not go by "manifestos", they go by looks and some people would be inclined to be suspicious of you (unless you have dramatically changed your appearance), of Julio or of my husband, Jorge. Or anybody that is tall, de "cejas pobladas" and handsome.

Already a good friend of mine (who's Mexican and Jewish) was stopped yesterday by Dallas police: his car was searched, they questioned him at length and finally they let him go. There was no reason for stopping him, except they were obviously "profiling" him.

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Anacecilia: Desgraciadamente mi televisor no recibe Univision. My "rabbit ears" only pick up three channels -- PBS, ABC, and CBS. I'm probably the only one in my town that doesn't own a satellite or cable <g>. In any case, I'll be celebrating tomorrow anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always celebrated September 16th, not the 15th (unless you're already tomorrow which then I'm correct and my question is moot)?

Steve: My apologies. I always thought she was your sister. My bad. Congratulations on being able to stay at home and look after your kids. My wife does that (I have one 22 month-old daughter) and I envy her. I'm hoping to switch places with her someday (as if she'd let me <g>). Your background would make the basis of a great spy novel.

As for me, I went to the University of Houston after AHS to get a BS in HRM (Hotel & Restaurant Management). After working through college in Houston hotels, I moved to D.C. to manage the Dupont Plaza Hotel on Dupont Circle. Left D.C. to find a career that gave me evenings, weekends, and holidays off. Southern California seemed like the best place to do that. Stayed there for almost five years wherein I got married. Left California and moved to Colorado to pursue rock climbing, hiking, clean air, and to raise a family. Been here ever since. Just this year I completed my MS in Technology Management (the weekend of the reunion which is why I wasn't able to go). Thanks for asking.

Cindy: Only one more week to carnitas. I'll be calling you this week.

Margarita: Small world. Glad to know you're doing well. I don't think I knew you while I was at AHS. Weren't you part of the class of '80? Which class were you in and how long were you at AHS? Or was that the years I was under the influence...?

Cindy, I really enjoyed talking to you. thanks!

To all, change the tv channel to univision, grab a beer or a shot of tequila (or let's make margaritas!) and forget about everything for a while. Lets get a little FIESTA . (To all in the US, remember it is not 5 de Mayo!) party time is tonight! aunque sea por la tv....y a gritar VIVA MEXICO!

Sorry, John, you asked what I've been up to since AHS. Basic outline: I majored in Russian studies at Arizona State Univ. after a brief period of study in Moscow; MA in the same in Albany, got married; moved to Vancouver (BC) to study more dead Russian authors; had a couple of kids; got a job in OKC teaching Spanish and Russian; ran out of Russian students soon after I wrapped up a phd and returned to Canada (where my wife is from) to study theology. Can't get away from the books. But to keep my sanity I stay home, do the housework (on really good days), and look after our three kids. How about yourself?

John: Unfortunately I don't have any sisters--friends at AHS often asked, of course, if Truly
and I were related. And as far as I know we aren't. Thanks for echoing my misgivings about
Georgina's comment. Georgina: your question is well put, and I don't suppose that I could,
without any prejudice or concern at all in our now post-WTC days, board a flight with those you say...
On the other hand, I have to come to terms with this sort of reality here in Ottawa, where
Arabs and Muslims are in plenty (I take it that not all Arabs are Muslims, in any case).

Georgina: Where can I sign up to get the passenger manifesto prior to an airline flight? I would love to be able to peruse that so I can also make my suggestions on whether I would not want to sit on a flight with Germans, Russians, Isrealites, Irish, Scottish, Oklahomans, Albanians, South Africans, Croatians, members of the CDC carrying a grudge, postal workers, angry ex-security guards, disillusioned stock investors, anyone from Seattle, anyone who's name could sound like they belong to a gang...oops, that means I can't travel on the same plane with YOU!!!

On another note, the government has always known that chemical and biological warefare is possible, regardless of where they're from. Remember, we introduced Agent Orange into Vietnam, including experimenting on our own troops. The threats have always been there and they are very real. This is no surprise. Why is this such big news for any of us (not just directed to Georgina)? Could it be that we've just presumed that while we're in our cushy way of life that we're untouchable?

Okay, I'm headed towards a rant and I'll just stop, but it is still dissapointing many in our own country have apparently not learned from history and our own mistakes when it comes to hate.

I received a letter today from the California State Depatment of Health. It's official, addressed to all healthcare prefessionals. It is with reference to symptoms to watch out for which could represent chemical or biological weapons. Now, you tell me if this is not a huge concern. I'll be honest and tell you that there is no way I would get on an airplane in which the passenger manifesto includes Muhammed, Omar, Kassim, and Yasser. Fine, these guys may be good people, but, I am not willing to find out if they are not. Think about it, would you get on that airplane? I have posed this same question to many people. Not a single one has said, yes, I would get on that airplane. It is not about being unreasonable. It's about realizing that for over 50 years, talking hasn't worked. Things have continued to get worse while we have been trying to be civilized and politically correct. What's it going to take for us to realize that there is no way to rationalize with terrorists? How, in the world do you hunt them down? So far, we have been unsuccesful. So, in my opinion it's time to consider a different strategy. It is no longer about an attack on the other side of the world which we read about or watch on TV. This is now an attack direct at you, and me, and our children, and our friends and family. We were just plain lucky not to at the WTC or pentagon! No man can powerful without the ones who give him power. There are no Hollywood stars wiuthout fans. Therefore, if you get rid of the fans, the star will no longer be. Of course the star will need to be put out as well.

Steve: Thanks for joining us. Where is Truly these days? The last time I saw her was in D.C. in 1986. It was her first day in town and my last. She entered the hotel I was managing to use a public phone and we just stared at each other until we blurted out each other's names. I was leaving for L.A. the very next day to start a new chapter in my life and she was doing the same in D.C. How are you both doing and what have you been doing since AHS?

Thanks, Ana Cecilia, for the welcome to the list! I certainly remember you too. I only wish I could have become better acquainted with you (and others here) when at AHS. I wanted to make a remark following
the discussion over Georgina's comment. I was troubled by the comment "Arabs have to go" (and, apparently Muslims in general) because it only leads to more piles of bodies (and I've been close to those as a phenomenon when I worked close to the Federal Building in OKC). I take it for granted, or at any rate dearly hope, that terrorists among Muslims are a very small minority. And then when it comes to the nations that harbor terrorists, I'm not really sure how we're going to decide on those! You may as well come up and bomb us here in Ottawa and Montreal, since the maniacs (to be generous) made their way in, presumably, from Canada, which prodived them some years of "rest and relaxation" before their attack. And as I drive my kids to school, I'll just pray to God for mercy in this vale of tears. In the meantime, send someone along to explain to my wife, an immigration officer, how easy it is to spot the terrorists: they speak Arabic, they're male . . . I would have thought that one of Dostoevsky's contributions to humanity was the fact that he pointed out how easily each of us can be a Raskolnikov.

Margarita, I saw a Larry King interview on Wednesday with the sister of the AA captain "Chic". He seemed to be a very likable fellow and blessed with a family that loved him alot. I pray for you to have the strength and faith to process the loss of him and the other people you knew.

Georgina: ... Your finest traits are passion and courage of conviction (plus those dancing moves, to be sure) .I can understand your anger and you wanting to vent your frustration. This week has been difficult for all of his in a number of ways and thank god for this chat page (and other mediums) that allow us to process this event. In respect to the specific nature of your comments, my feeling is that the best example you can give your children is the one of compassion and understanding. Of course the whole world expects justice for those who perpetrated this heinious crime - allowing these to go free will allow them to continue attacking at will and the retribution can be seen as being defensive in nature. However, to accuse a whole class of people for the actions of a few puts us right back on their level. Tessy and I have taught our daughters that if one of them hits/fights/scratches, etc. that both end up time out. That keeps them from thinking that it is ok to respond in kind. As to keeping your daughter safe forever, I agreed wholeheartedly with Susan. Hiding from risk is almost most more dangerous than outright exposure - better let her experience life and acquire the street smarts (in controlled settings) and emotional intellegence to fend for herself.

Everyone's troubles returning home or getting places reminds me of that unforgetable film with John Candy "Planes, Trains and Automobiles". Polka anyone? I am currently in an Admirals club in Mexico City hoping to board an endlessly delayed flight to Miami. Having planned to return home on Wednesday from Buenos Aires, I returned to Sao Paulo hoping to return on Thursday. Seeing that cancelled, I decided to fly to Mexico City to play some golf with my brother Ronald this Saturday morning and return to Miami tonight. Like that old saying: "If life deals you lemons, make margaritas!" Hope everyone makes it home safely.

We have to start from scratch! Has anybody tried to put on some cartoons on this morning? I'm stuck here waiting to hear from John since his early flight this morning was canceled again and to my surprise: Smurfs, pitufos donde el "terrorista mayor" tenia hostage a un pitufo sobre un bonfire for whatever stupid reason. Then Pinky and the brain were trying to get cotrol of the world "somehow". etc, etc, etc. Now, this is Saturday morning ! Julia is watching Barney, creo que es el unico. I would always critizice him but I guess I had never really seen him. For the first time this week I actually sang with her "es un dia especial y me alegra que estoy vivo". I don't know what will happen when she gets to the Nintendo. A good censure of media, video games and computer games could be in order!

Ingrid, Muchas felicidades por tu bella bebita.

John, Yes the dealership I am speaking of is Corporate Express. I am a manufacturers representative for seven manufactures and Corporate Express is one of my largest dealerships. Another one of my dealerships, MOI, was also making deliveries that day and their truck was struck by flying debris after the plane hit. Luckily, nobody was hurt from that crew either. That specific area should have been completed, but thankfully due to delays by subcontractors they were unable to move everyone in yet. The casualties would have been much higher. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers.

Georgina: I do not disagree with you that those responsible should be punished if not destroyed. And I also agree with you that those protecting the responsible are just as guilty. But not all Muslims follow the Taliban regime or support Bin Laden. Just as not all blonde, blue-eyed Catholics followed Hitler during the 30's. Once again, I understand your frustration and how close this hits home. The company I work for had clients working in the WTC, and some of the folks I work with were on a conference call with one of our clients when the first plane hit. They have recounted the screams followed by the loss of communication with them that followed. My father's wife and children work close to the Pentagon, and my Dad was in NY when this occured. Luckily everyone was safe and away from harms danger. I'm sure this hit close to home for almost everyone across the US because we either know someone or someone we know knows someone who was directly affected by this tragedy.

I do not discredit your anger or your hatred for those responsible. But remember, the fanatical actions of a few does not represent that of a whole race. Many Arab nations are supporting the US in our resolution to fight terrorism. For the most part, Muslims do not share in the ideology and fanaticism of the Taliban, though the Taliban has adopted many Muslim ideologies.

To Susan's point, this incident has widened my eyes to the false sense of wellbeing that I've had about this country. Though I've always been protective of my family, and have kept one eye looking over my shoulder whenever in public with them (or even in my sleepy little neighborhood), I felt relatively sheltered from the rest of the world's harm. I will never get that back, and I feel it is a responsiblity of mine to teach that to my daughter. A shitty thing to have to plan but necessary. But a hatred towards a race or religion I will not. There's too much of that in the world as it is.

Georgina: I don't know if you remember me, I'm one of the Gaubeca twins, class of '80. I remember you well. I was worried by what you wrote.
La verdad y siento mucho decirtelo, pero tus hijos nunca han estado seguros en este mundo. AcuŽrdate lo que le paso a Cindy. Hoy te escribo para distraerme un poco del hecho de que a mi hija, Paula, le di permiso de ir a ver un partido de futbol con sus amigas. SŽ que va a estar rodeada de adultos y que la van a cuidar (aunque sea de lejos), pero no puedo estar completamente tranquila. Y no por lo que pas— en NY, sino porque sŽ que hay otros loquitos sueltos por all’ que son igualmente impredecibles. Yo sŽ que me traum— lo que le paso a Cindy y que a veces soy demasiado exigentes con mis hijos porque la preocupaci—n de que les vaya a pasar lo mismo a veces me ahoga. Pero he tenido que aceptar que no puedo tener a mis hijos amarrados a mi lado siempre.

El peligro no est‡ con los pocos fan‡ticos que nos han causado la pesadilla del martes pasado. Si solo fuera tan f‡cil...

John, Jessica, Steve: What I was stunned about was to learn that my children are grwoing up in a world where one select group of people aim and kill people time after time after time. I will be darn if I am going to leave for them a world where they will be in danger of being killed by an airplane crashing into their office!! I am sorry but I am beyond pissed off!! My brother was only a few blocks away from the area and a great friend of mine (Julio Zamora) works for Morgan Stanley. It was a very close call. The mere thought of something happening to them because of a stupid group of religious fanatics is not acceptable. And the problem is that the only way to stop such a group is by hitting them harder than they have hit us. We've tried talking for decades! Hello!?!?! They just killed 20,000 or more people who were simply being good citizens by doing their jobs. It was cold blooded murder. We use capital punishment on people that have murdered much smaller number of people. And people applaud that. Why would this be any different? They didn't care about our women and children. There were children on those airplanes. It is something that muslims have brought on to themselves. They have proved time and time again that they see no wrong in killing others. They have tried to anhilate jews for centuries. Have any of you watched any of the interviews with the people that are looking for their loved ones? Did any of you experience horrendous anxiety while trying to contact your friends and family? If you did, then perhaps you will understand. We are flying our flag high up in the air, and will continue to do so. We will support every and any attack that the United States and NATO launch on muslim countries who support terrorists. You know why? Beacuse our childrens' futures depend on it.

Jennifer WS - being stuck at Disney...I can think of worse places! I have a friend whose husband is "stuck" in Bermuda, at the Atlantis Hotel. He's not getting too much pity from me!! Hope you made it home alright.

Posting my message was a "vent" for me...needed to unload it all, and boy, did it feel good! Thanks everyone for your warm wishes...you guys are amazing. We've certainly turned out to be a bunch of fine, caring, compassionate individuals! Who knew! :) I think there is a dos equis with my name on it downstairs....

Kelly: My condolences. Our thoughts are with you.

Margarita: Our thoughts are with you as well. Just as a coincidence, the company I work for has a furniture division that was contracted to furnish the renovated portion of the Pentagon. By any chance do you work for Corporate Express' furniture division?

Georgina: Hmm, interesting way to vent your anger. I understand your frustration, but isn't that attitude the same as what we're receiving from Bin Laden et.al.? Generalizing in such a way just continues the hatred. Who will it be tomorrow?

Kelly, just re read your message and not only is your father wise, SO ARE YOU! thanks.

Cindy, muchas gracias, no tengo tu telefono. Porque? no se pero a ver si me lo mandas. Yo estoy bien. Ni una uña se me rompio! TG.

Kelly, sorry about your father in law. Regards to your husband. He will need you, be patient. A kiss to your kids too. You, however have a Great father, and a very wise one. Tell him you shared his remark with us, that it came just at the right time and that we appreciate it.

Margarita, we are with you.

Geor. gracias, John ya llego a SF y va a estar con sus papas hasta que le den vuelo. I know you are angry, we all are! And I think its great that we have this space para DESAHOGARNOS!

Karen, que gusto que Julia va a tener cuñadas buena onda!

Jennifer, glad to hear Disney will be Disney! Have a safe trip home.

I just spoke to Ingrid. She is glowing! The baby's name is Xanique. (shanik). Tirso didn't make it on time but since he had a ticket to LA for Tuesday, Ingrid REALLY doesn't mind he didn't fly. He will be able to go as soon as he can.

Steve G, welcome! sorry you didn't make it to the reunion. I remember you well as a qb for the jv team.

Cindy - what did Ingrid name the baby?

Margarita: I am so sorry this tragedy has touched you directly. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and all of the victims, their families, friends, and co workers.

Ingrid gave birth to a baby girl yesterday, whom weighed more than 4 kilos!! I just recieved a call from her nanny. Ingrid, congrats!!

As many of us are at this time, I am also a stranded traveller. I arrived in LA on Saturday for a spa conference at the Disneyland Hotel. I arrived early so that I could do a little R&R prior to the start of the conference on Monday ... then Tuesday, the mood turned dramatically. I was supposed to leave on Thurs at noon. I am currently confirmed on a flight out tonight (red-eye) to get back to Harrisburg, PA thru Cincinnati. I am continiung to think positive that I WILL get on the plane to get home.

Disney is not such a bad place to be stranded. The people here have been very accomodating, although the mood is not what it typically is. A few of my spa friends are also stranded, so we are keeping each other company. Yesterday and today went by very slowly and trying to find something to do to pass the time is getting more difficult. Thank goodness for the movie theater in Downtown Disney! By the time I will leave tonight, I will have seen 3 movies since I have been here. Its a great way to pass a couple of hours. My credit card has also suffered as I have taken advantage of the shopping. My suitcase is full, so I have to stop now!

I am thankful to know that friends and family are all safe. I only hope that we continue to hear positive news about others that were in any of the affected areas.

Good luck to others that may have been travelling during this time ... patience and positive thinking will get us all home safe and sound!

My life, unfortunately, was touched directly by this tragedy. The Captain of the American Airlines flight which flew into the Pentagon was an old boyfriend (Chic Burlingame). He was a Navy pilot who I never thought could be overtaken. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
I also had a crew installing furniture in the pentagon. Fortunately the project manager on the job called the foreman to let him know she had a bad feeling about going into the Petagon and asked him to have the crew meet her in the parking lot. 5 minutes after leaving they watched the plane hit the section they had just left. This was truely devine intervention.
I am sure more stories will come out that will directly affect many of us personally.

Here is the direct link to that article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/opinion/14FRIE.html

There is a article in the NY times www.nytimes.com/2001/09/14/opinion/14FRIE.html that is worth while reading particularly at this time when our emotions are running high.
Kelly: I am so sorry about your dad...but how great that he is so active! He is an inspiration to all. And yes, bike helmets and now SKI helmets are important! I am sorry about your father-in-law. What a tough time it is for you, but you are right..we need to appreciate what we have when we have it.

AnaCeci: Estas bien? How scary to be in an accident with John out of town! I think this incident on Tuesday will have world wide financial reprocussions...as you indicated yourself how it has affected you.

Karen: Todos aqui en la EEUU damos las gracias a todos nuestros compadres en Mexico por todo el apoyo! Give your daughter a hug!!

Wow Kelly-you've had quite a week. Congratultions on surviving it with such a good attitude.

Georgina, I just want to point out that those who perpetrated these horrific acts also think someone "has to go", only in this case it is Americans. You become them by stooping to their level. If violence is always the only solution, our world will only become more violent.

Justice is imperative. Randomly killing innocent people isn't justice.

Such a week...last week, my father, who is an avid bicyclist, was riding in a weekend long fund raiser for MS, and was thrown from his bike, knocked unconscious, and broke several ribs. He could be the spokesperson for bike helmets - his helmet was in 3 pieces, and it's the second time it's saved his life. My sister and I sent him a cute shirt with a bicycle rider on it, with the saying "Life is Good" on the front. That was last week.

This week, the five of us have passed around the flu, and I spent several all nighters with vomiting children...ick! My car died for no reason (we're still working on THAT one!), and the whole catastrophy with the airplanes going down and loss of lives. My husband got a call last night, in the middle of the night, that his father in Connecticut had passed away, unexpectedly. Because we can't get on a flight with the air crisis, he is leaving this afternoon, alone, to start his drive to the funeral.

My Dad called last night to say he received the shirt and liked the message. I laughed and said "it was a better message last week. It doesn't seem to apply right now." Dad said "Kelly, life IS good. Look around you. Things may seem bleak right now, but from all of these life altering changes, some good will arise." I realized how fortunate I am to have my family, my life, my friends, and I am apt to agree that life IS good, and the sun will shine again! The world, not just Americans, but the world will rise above this. Now, if I can just figure out the good that can possibly arise from my no longer functioning mini-van..... :) Make it a great day.

It's great to find this list and familiar names after 20 years! Sorry it has to coincide with
the terrible news in NYC and DC. With apologies to Georgina, I'm afraid I'm stunned by
the remark that "arabs have to go".

Elena: If you and Craig are still here and need a place to stay please call me:h (714)639-5880 w(949)833-9020 cell (714)785-5668. We are in Orange County , 40 miles south of LAX. We have a big house with an extra room. If you would prefer you can stay at our cabin (1 hr. away form here) in the mountains. You can have my car.

Anaceci; Vivimos a 4 horas de Las Vegas. Con mucho gusto John aqui tiene su casa. Estamos mucho mas cerca de San Francisco.

Esto es lo que yo pienso: sacamos a todos los Israeltias de la zona, bombardeamos la zona hasta que no quede ningun arabe. Luego regresamos a todos los israelitas para que ellos desarrollen el area de una manera democratica. I'm sorry but I will be prejudiced, arabs have to go. I loved Busch's speach - we will make no distinction between terrosits and states that harbor them! Are there good arabs? Maybe, but I don't care any more. I am done talking to them. There is no more time for conversation. It's over. They had their chance. What do I teach my children? That there are good people, and there are bad people. Bad people just killed 20.000 to 30.000 good people. And they will be punished, because it is not ok to be bad!!!

I can't believe how this event has affected all of us so much. (En lo micro micro micro que podemos ser los delafontaine-perez vargas en el marco general del mundo entero, nos a costado sentimentalmente y economicamente mucho. I can't even imagine how the people in NY and Washington who have experienced this first hand and probably lost friends or family must feel.

Early this morning, I was expecting some mails from our office in San Francisco, since they didn't arrive soon, I went to mourn a dear friend of the ASF Alumni Association. I don't know if you all remember Elsita del Villar. Her sister passed away today. Both were alumni, (from the 40's) and Elsita is, to date, the school cashier. On my way back home, a turton truck hit me. Thank God nothing happened to me. But it took me over 4 hours to settle the thing. All I could think about was that I had left Julia alone with the maid and if something had happened to me...
That is, because John is stranded in Las Vegas. Of course the trade show he went to was a complete failure. He had been waiting all day for a rental car so that he can drive back to SF. He finally got one and he will be driving back tonight. He also thought about taking a bus to the border or SF. but the bus lines are all packed and in chaos.

What I really don't understand is all the people who are calling false alarm threats! These people should get 30 yrs of jail! They are rejoycing on everybodies feelings and stress right now. I later learned that the reason why my documents didn't arrive on time is because the office in San Francisco, including the 1 Embarcadero, TransAmerican building and Wells Fargo building had been evacuated. So I couldn't get the originals by courier earlier this week either. y que lo entienda la oficina del gobierno en Mexico donde los tenia yo que llevar. (The Mexico City airport was also evacuated today).

So I missed Memo's birhday lunch, I didn't get my work done on time, John's trip was a waste, I cried, sweated and cursed more than once today, but we are all alive and well, and I thank God for that!

Me encanta este lugar donde me PUEDO DESAHOGAR! GRACIAS

Jodi, luego te mando un mail.
Ingrid, Como estas?
Elena, hope you find a car soon.

Well it's been awhile since I last wrote. I got busy and just let it go. I am glad to see that the gang is still communicating. I just wanted to see if everyone from our class that lives in the Washington and NY areas were okay. Praise the Lord it seems that they are. My sister Jennifer was okay just stuck in Manhatten. I emailed Julio Zamora and he is okay so his wife and daughter. He is stuck in London.
This has been unbelievable. In the midst of all the heartache and chaos we can take heart that God is still in control. He has written all of history and he knows how this story is to play out even if we don't and we don't understand his plans. He has one.

Alex congrats man. oh excuse me Dr. Alex.

Cindy hang in there with the adoption. We have some friends who actually own their own Adoption Agency and they primarily do Russian Adoptions. All I can say is patience my dear. Just as it takes 9 months to grow a baby so must you go through waiting pains with adoption. We may not go through labor but with all of the hassels, raw nerves and beauracratic red tape it can feel like it. I will write to you sometime about the story of my son Ian's adoption. He was born in Mexico. We have considered trying to adopt from Russian but are just not sure at this point. The expense is just amazing.

Elena congrats.

Ana Ceci sorry I never wrote to you and I didn't send the check for the video. Do you still have some left?

Alex M so you have hair growing everywhere but on your head? :)

Mike B I think it is very special what you and Tessy are going to do with your girls.

I must run God Bless You

I am so glad to hear everyone checking in and reporting that family and friends are ok. Should anyone know someone who did lose someone, the Mayo has an article on dealing with grief that might help. It can be found at this URL
http://www.mayoclinic.com/home?id=HQ00771

Craig and I are thinking we may take our rent car and drive home to Dallas rather than stay here, not knowing when flights may resume. LAX is such a scary airport in times like this. I am impressed that Hertz has announced that they will not impose a surcharge for renters who had cars out before 9am on Sept 11 who drive home and drop off the cars there. A very good PR move and one that ensures I will continue to use this company

Gracias a Dios todos ustedes se encuentran bien, nosotros por aqui completamente en shock y tratando de despertar de esta pesadilla. Me acorde de tanta gente en la reunion que decia que trabajaba en Nueva York y me alegro que todos estan bien. Como explicarselo a los niños? muy dificil, es algo que rompio con la inocencia de mi hija de 10 años que no puede entender como hay gente asi de mala en el mundo. al dia siguiente me dijo "el que hizo esto seguro ya esta muy arrepentido" y "quiero ir a donar sangre" Lo importante es que nosotros pongamos nuestro granito de arena dandoles buenos valores a nuestros hijos y que vean cuanta gente hay en las calles y en la red cross tratando de ayudar y asi poder continuar.Muchos saludos a todos y esperemos vernos muy pronto.

Just found out that Victor Flores is fine as well. He and his wife live in NY, luckily both were out of town. Victor was in Germany and his wife was in North Carolina.
Saludos

AnaCeci: Thanks for the website
Mike: my e mail is: trentandcindy@starband.net. I do appreciate you sending me the fact sheet. I also still on ocassion, do have the opportunity to treat children, and I am always looking for ways to relate. We did something similar after Columbine
Georg: my fax line is 303 384-0382--thanks

Cindy: Our children's pre-school gave us a handout today on how to explain tragedy to children. I'll be happy to fax it to you if you give me a #.

Sammy: Do you have any suggestions?

Jessica, well put.

Cindy, thanks. Pls post your email address. My brother, Marc, just send me a very helpful fact sheet on how to talk to kids about these attacks. I'll be glad to forward it. Main points: Explain to kids that these are political acts, aimed not at individuals, but at targets. These events are very rare. You are there to take care of your kids. Resume your routine and allow them to express themselves about their feelings and share your feelings with them. Tessy and I plan to have a candle lighting at home to remember those lost and to pray for world peace (I feel like a beauty-contest contestant).

Incidentally, I very much agreed with Pres. Bush's comment that the foundation of the U.S. (and the civilized/democratic world) is much stronger than the foundation of the twin towers. What an awesome system of government and economy has been created by the U.S., where individual freedoms, free-market competition and the focus on the consumer are the true engines of growth. No bad-ass terrorist group can change that.

Edited by author 09-12-2001 02:58 PM
Cindy, I can relate! I found this web page that can be helpfull with older kids.

http://www.womencentral.msn.com/parenting/articles/tragedy.

On a happier note: Jaime, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Jessica: I am glad to hear your brother and his family is okay. I was sitting on needles and pins yesterday as well. On a lighter note, Elena Rohweder called me yesterday from LA (to ask about my brother). She and Craig where going to attend the Grammies which have been cancelled. She is now wondering when she will get back to Dallas.
How is everyone explaining this to their children? My youngest newphew (10) whom is living in New York is having a really, really hard time from what I understood yesterday. I am grateful that my daughter is too young to understand...but I did hold her closely last night as I rocked her to sleep as I tried (in vain) to hold back my tears...
Mike thanks for writing in. It is good to know that other parts of the world are just as shocked as we are. I bet your family is looking forward to having you home safe and sound.

Thank goodness we know that our cuates are alright. My brother works down there and he and his family (three girls) live in Tribeca, only a mile away-so we had a very tense day yesterday until we got in touch with him. They are all fine, thankfully.

I think what we all need to do right now, in the face of this horror, is to love and help and be there for each other. We need to remember what love is because it is our only hope of true survival as a species.

Many people want vengance instead of justice. They want to make others suffer as we have. While it is perhaps natural to feel that way, it is, ultimately, a self defeating response. We need to bring the perpetrators of these heinous acts to justice. More importantly, we must begin to seriously address the reasons why there are so many people in the world, including those who did this, that are so full of anger and hate for us. I am afraid that as a nation we will choose vengance and afraid of were that is going to lead the world.

But what our individual selves can do right now is reach out to each other, help where we can, and be a voice of love in a world that seems to be putting a high value on hate.

My thoughts and heart is with all of those whose lives have been shattered by this tragedy.

Edited by author 09-11-2001 09:24 PM
Great to hear that Marc P., Scott O., Julio M. and Margarita W. are ok. My day started in Sao Paulo, Brazil with a rumour that was a mix between a bad joke and a scandalous preview of a Hollywood thriller. 300 replays of the UAL flight plowing into the WTC have confirmed the unthinkable and all I can think is that we need to pray for the families of those who have been affected. More important, let's teach our kids that the lessons we've learned early on, sharing, respect for others, empathy, altruism, charity, are the most important in ensuring that these things do not happen again.

  It's heartening that the shock and consternation of these events extend worldwide. People in Brazil seem as shocked about the attacks as any U.S. citizen would be. I guess we will always remember where we were on Sept. 11, 2001.

Well,
Today our lives have been changed forever..
Life as we know it has forever changed...

complacency is a thing of the past!

We should all pray for the next few days.
As a country (and a hemisphere)we are mighty
and for the sake of us all... I hope our
leaders do not act in haste.

Our greatness comes from our humanity, and I pray
we can maintain it while at the same time
deal swiftly and cleanly with those who would
perpetrate such an act on innocent people!

God Bless

Julio Zamora esta bien al igual que su esposa e hija. El esta en Londres.

Margarita: Glad you're ok.

Anaceci: En CBS acaban de decir que ya todas las fronteras con Mexico estan cerradas. Al mismo tiempo en CNN acaba de salir un ataque en Afghanistan, aviones, misiles y todo pero no han dicho quien los esta atacando.

I live in the Washington, DC area and today has virtually paralyzed the area. My home is between Dulles airport and National airport. At one point there were reports of a plane circling the area and we saw military jets in the sky ready to shoot down any suspicious aircraft. My fear is that chemical warfare may follow. Many of my neighbors and friends work in the pentagon. Hopefully they are all OK. I am currently working on one of the wedges of the pentagon which is being renovated. The thought that something like this could happen to such a secured building is incredible.

Edited by author 09-11-2001 05:56 PM
Geor. Segun el Davidow, el embajador de USA en Mexico, las fronteras de Mexico estan abiertas pero con mucha seguridad. Ya te imaginaras las colas. Los aeropuertos si estan cerrados.

However, acabo de oir en las noticias que algunos puentes si estan cerrados.

Anaceci: Segun la tele local de Los Angeles la fontera con Mexico y Canada estan cerradas y la de Mexico esta heavily patrolled. Nos han puesto en estado de emergency alert en Los Angeles y Orange county. Nos han pedido circular lo minimo posible para mantener las calles abiertas. MSNBC esta diciendo que estan heavily patrolled pero ne han dicho cerradas. Todos los aeropuertos estan cerrados.

Geor, las fronteras SI estan abiertas.

Re: Julio Zamora, mi hermano Julio thinks he 's probably ok since he lives and works far away from the WTC area. I've emailed him but haven't yet heard back.

Tennyson: Gracias. He just emailed me.

Georgina, Julio is quite active on our chat page right now. If you want to reach him come on over and send a message.

Geor: Thank you for letting us know about Julio.
My stepmother just called from Santiago Chile, frantic for information. She told me that their is a STAGE 1 world wide alert at all airports. She had been trying to fly to Cairo and that this is what she was told. Tennyson, thanks for the update on Scott.

We have witnessed a new day which will go down in infamy. Churches all over Canada are as we speak holding vigils. I cannot believe this is happening. Canadians are in shock. Que Dios los bendiga.

Mi hermao Julio is OK. I haven't been able to talk to him but my mom did.
Julito Zamora: please post a mesage or e-mail me!

Edited by author 09-11-2001 12:35 PM
What is happening is unbelievable! Cindy, thanks for letting us know about your brother. A todos los que andan por alla, PLEASE post that you are ok. We will be praying for all of you.
Thanks Tennyson.

I was corresponding with Scott Odebashian this morning. He is 5-6 miles from ground zero so he is OK. He just can't get out of the city. Phones are out everywhere (mainly cells) but at least we have the chat to communicate.

Alex Mc: I have just spoken to my brother whom works in Manhattan at JP Morgan and he is okay. Apparantley he can't get out of Manhattan because the subways are closed. How incredibly awful! I don't know of anyone else in the areas, but it would be nice to know that they are OK!

Hope everybody is OK with the attacks. Scott O., Julio Z. in NY, David Laird in DC (?) Who else?

Well, well, well. This is my first posting to this message board. Greetings to everyone. It's been an interesting 20 years. Sorry I missed the reunion. The pictures are great. I keep wondering who half of those people are. I have fond memories of many of you. Particularly my friend, John Maroney. How the hell are you? Have you written the Second Elegy of Thargus yet? (inside joke)

Alex: Creo que tu confusión son los apellidos. El ex Primer Ministro de Canadá era Bryan Mulroney. Suenan iguales los apellidos.

John M., no I'm not confusing you with Mark F. Just thought you might be Canadian. Who knows, maybe I'm confusing you with someone else!

Rebecca S., many thanks for the email, qué detallazo. Doubt I’ll use it, though, but I'm sure she'll get more than a few messages from other lurkers. Where's Cary for example?

Ramón, nice web page, even if I'm not into agave (and yes I saw your being “abstemio con moderación” card!). It's looking good and it's obviously being made by people who know what they're doing. A clear concept, interesting info, a serious tone, but not too much, etc. There's always the question of having a non-Flash version too, but nowadays a lot of people have Flash 5 (http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/ has statistics on this).

The Thunderbird-style reunion sounds good too. Let's do it. It might have to be multiclass to give it mass in the beginning. It's a very good idea.

Edited by author 09-10-2001 03:40 PM
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Think it is too long to wait for five years, for you to see all your classsmates?
I have seen that many of you from different classes are making informal gatherings in different locations.
Here is an idea:
Many of you know and others who don`t know that many of us attended: Thunderbird-American Gradutate School of Internationational Management. The school that probably has more Alumni from our class than any other Master`s degree program. People whio attended are Federico Gorbea, Scott Odabashian, Rene Koch, Rohnnie Buhler, Craig Dudley SR., etc.
There is a great tradition at this School, T-bird Tuesdays which is a multiclass, multiregion meeting which takes place on every first tuesday of the month in all mayor metropolitan areas of the world. So if you are in any city on that first tuesday you can check out the location at the web page and attend.
I was thinking, I know some of the people from the class of '80 are meeting, so why not make AHS-Thursdays, which would take place the first thursday of every month and each location would decide where is the best place to meet.
The gang in San Francisco can choose a place and so on.
For Mexico City, I propose to have our first AHS-thursday 8:00 p.m. on October 4th, 2001. At a place to be determined:(I am thinking of MP again, where I think we all had a good time during reunion)
Please let me know your comments and ideas for making this event work.
Do you think we should make it class exclusive? or should we include the classes of '80 and '82, where we all have some relationships?
Should it be every 2,3 months?
At t-bitd tuesdays spouses are welcome, but seldom attend.
Lets get this chat going on again with this issue.
cheers

Sorry about Peggy's e-mail. It isn't working, but I will get the correct one and post it here again.

Hi everyone!! Joseph has been in pre-Kinder for about a month now and adjusting very well. The only thing he HATES to do is take a nap, but he always falls asleep. I was very fortunate to get a part-time job at the church (Joseph goes to a parochial school), just a few steps from Joseph's school. I am the bookkeeper. It has been overwhelming for me, since it has been 6 years since I got my MBA and all the accounting stuff is really fuzzy in my mind. But.... I am catching on. It will be nice to earn extra income and I will also be close enough to Joseph to be active in his schooling.

Cindy - I am praying for the successful completion of your adoption. I am so happy for you! I have found that in being an adoptive parent, I constantly think of the priviledge I have been given to raise Joseph. Almost daily, I am reminded of how, although he is "ours" through adoption, he is on loan. I am accountable not only to God for raising him, but also to his birthdparents. We wish you the very best.

Thanks also for asking about Mom. She was SO FLATTERED and happy to hear about your very sweet message about her. It really gave her a lift - and she needs one right now. She is really tired of the wheelchair, walker and not being able to do anything. However, she appears to be healing well. Hopefully she will get her cast off in a few weeks, although I don't think she will be able to walk for some time after that. Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and your concern. It means a lot to us!

Elena - Congratulations on your marriage.

David and I will have our 10th wedding anniversary Sept 21. Anacecilia - Me acuerdo mucho de tu visita cuando me case. Muchas gracias por participar en me boda. And praise be to God for the grace and divine presence in our marriage. Marriage can be difficult at times, and without Jesus, I don't think we could have made it 10 years!

Dr. Alex - Congratulations on your doctorate. May Jesus use you mightily in spreading the gospel and enlarging his kingdom on earth.

See you all later!

John Maroney: (JB) is looking for you! Can you please e-mail him at tvoptions@aol.com?

Alex M.: As promised, Peggy's e-mail is pwsararson@aol.com
Good luck!

Alex Loya: Are you teaching University level theology courses? If so I have a suggestion for your course reading list. The book is called Philadelphia's Enlightenment,1740-1800. The Kingdom of Christ, Empire of Reason. It is published by Greenwood Press out of Connecticut. It deals with the struggle between faith and reason . It is interdisciplinary in its focus. Although I might be a wee bit biased because it was authored by my wife I think you will find it very interesting and pertinent to your field. It is available at Amazon.com .You can search for it by the title or my wife's name Nina Reid-Maroney....Now that is a plug.
Where did you get your Doctorate? My older brother Mike is attending Knox College at the University of Toronto and wil be ordained in two years.Anyway, good luck in your courses.

John and Geor, behave yourselves!

Mike B: Thanks. This will be my first meeting with anyone from the Class of '81 so it'll be nice to meet with Cindy and family.

Georgina: Now you've got me blushing for the first time in a while <g>.

John: I'm flattered! I find you rather cute myself!

Kelly, I got tired just from thinking of all the driving you must do. Good thing Andy is around alot. Having been on the road for 5 out of the last six weeks, I envy him. However, sometimes its tough to disconnect from work if you work at home. I had to think about Andy renting the power tools to build the deck (was it that?). This past weekend I had to drill some holes in our pool deck and I ended up renting a monster power drill. Quite a work out but I really enjoy working on my home (especially outdoors).

I've been dealing alot with a company named American Tower Corp - Intn'l. They're based in Atlanta. To date however, I haven't had to fly up to see them. Once I do, I'll give you a holler.

Cindy/John, enjoy your dinner!

Elena - Geez, nice honeymoon, girl! Imagine you saw some great sights! I haven't gotten into any trouble (yet), now that I'm out on my own, child-free! I DO find I have more time to browse, and therefore, spend, so that could be a problem! Maybe I'll take up knitting...

Cindy - Danielle (Dani) is in 4th grade, Drew is in 2nd, and Julianne just started preschool again (she's 3 1/2 years). Dani does Drill Team three days a week, plus girl scouts every other week, and riding lessons each week. Drew has soccer twice a week, and Jules does gymnastics once a week. I spend a LOT of time driving!! There's a reason why no one is having huge families anymore - too many extra curricular activities!! Actually, I'm lucky that Andy works out of the house, so can back me up driving, or picking someone up, if I'm running late. He also coaches soccer, so he does THAT driving, and we just go and cheer at the games.

Cindy: Mi Cabana sounds great. Never been there and I am still looking for good carnitas. My number(s) are H:(970)532-2669 and W:(303)664-3352. I'll try giving you a call as well.

Georgina: As you can see, the concept of changing yourself to please the opposite sex is flawed. If one wants to change, they should do it for themselves as that is what is really important. Other's opinions don't really matter and the likes or dislikes of the opposite sex should never be catered to. Notwithstanding my comments, I'm already attracted to you anyway <g>.

Sammy: Como le fue a Sarita en su primer dia de Kindrgarten?

Regarding this plastic surgery ordeal, hey, I don't have the guts to do it, but thanks for all your comments. I also got some emails regarding the subject. The most interesting thing I have found is that most guys are strongly against plastic surgery while most women are usually in favor. Interesting, since after all, it's usually done to improve one's figure to attract the opposite sex??!!

Hola everyone! Wedding went great and the honeymoon was fabulous. We went on a cruise and visited Barcelona, Nice, Venice, Rome, Athens, Istanbul, etc. Went on the Celebrity Millenium which holds 2400 people. It is enormous but surprisingly you only feel crowded around the pool and at the mass meals (if anyone is considering this ship, opt to pay the extra to go to the Olympic every night as it is much more peaceful and romantic)

Loved the food everywhere (especially Turkey's hot tomato salad and the Greek yogurt/garlic/cucumber stuff. Lots of fresh fish.

CINDY; happy anniversary. it does not seem like it has been (did you say) 5 years?? My time flies. I have to fly to LA and Atlanta for business over the next week but once I get to rest for a moment, I want to call to get the full scoop on the adoption.

Kelly: so what kind of trouble are you getting yourself into now that the kids are not around to supervise you during the day?

John Bauer: Yes! We are still on for Sat the 22. My number is 303 279-5802--what is yours? Sorry about not getting back to you earlier--we were in Steamboat over the long weekend, and tommorow we leave for Sedona--Trent has a conference their through Monday. Does the place (Mi Cabana) on 44th and Wadsworth (SW corner) sound okay? They have great carnitas and good seafood (great Caldo de Marisco and camarones al mojo de ajo, and the best Cocktel de Camaron this side of the border!)

Mike: haven't seen the movie yet, but I am already salivating!

AnaCeci: Alessa is sporting earrings now--confienso que yo llore mas que ella.

Carol: Como esta tu mama?

Kelly: What grades are the kids in? Are they into little league? My neighbors are so busy with after school sports (year around) they secretly wish their kids were more into TV!

Does Ingrid's abscence mean the blessed event has occured?

Alex L:Congrats on the doctorate thing. How does a guy whom works full time in the insurance buisness, has a couple of kids, preaches on the side, travels to Persia have time to go back to school to get a doctorate? When do you sleep?

Hey there Mr. Buhler! Been busy with the "back to school" thang! Kids are in their 3rd or 4th week, so we're driving all over to activities, struggling with homework, trying to get everyone to bed at a decent hour...trying to get ME up in the morning. Think it's a harder adjustment for me, than it is for them! Are you coming through Atlanta anytime soon?

Fer: Felicades por tu anniversario. 2 years?! Wow, that means you met Nathalie (at my wedding I might add) and it took you 10 years to convince her! Boy you are persistent!

Ingrid: Que paso con tu esposo y su visa? Esto se esta poniendo cardiaco with your imminent birth. I'm sure we are all collectively praying for you to be reunited with your husband in time. Dr. Loya, any divine suggestions?

Kelly, waz up? Missed ya!

Has anyone seen the movie Tortilla Soup? It will make you go hungry and rush to your nearest Mexican restaurant. Guaranteed.

Sammy: I really didn't keep in touch with them my final year in high school, let alone afterwards. I know that Sue M.'s and Dale's web site (http://logos.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.html) has their emails posted so you may want to contact them that way.

Cindy: Still making it for the 22nd. Are you still on?

LA CHACHALACA SE SOBREDOSIO EN UNA FIESTA, LA POBRE PERRITA ACOSTUMBRADA A CHELAS FRIAS, FUE VICTIMA DE UNA CONVINACION AGAVE-ESPUMOSO QUE LA REGRESO A SU PLANETA NATAL.

SALUDOS
DOMINIC

Dominic, gracias por la aclaracion! Realmente me encantaria si Julia se hiciera amiga de algunos de sus hijos, Tepeji del milenio?!. She would have such a blast! El hijo de Memo es amigo del hijo de Claudio Gantous. Se que los de Karen, Sara, Jorge, Nina y David se llevan super bien. They are the new ASF generations and are about the same age. Julia will be class of 2018 ! I don't think I can think that far ahead, mejor me concentro en su primer dia de "2 hour kiddi garden".

Alex L. Felicidades.

Geor. Although I agree with everybody's remarks, I READ you! Estoy llegando al "deadline" de decidir si queremos otro baby o no. Con tanta bronca, el dr. no quiere que llegue a los cu..rshddls,dldpsmd ta pregnant. Nunca me imagine que age would be a key factor here. By the way, Julia has a new doll she calls bebe, does that make me a grandma?

Speaking of babys, Ingrid YA MERO!? Porfa avisanos cuando llegue la peque. Yo tambien fui "c" , you'll do great!

Elena-How was your wedding-hope you had a marvelous time!

Javier- do you by any chance remember me? We went to someone's (Doris Besudo?) 15th birthday bash when I was in 9th and you were in 10th. Felicidades con su nene!! Parenthood is blowing my mind in the best way.

We just got back from three days backpacking in the white mountains in New Hampshire-with our one year old son and three year old daughter, our dog and a friend who is in to such things. The kids LOVED it-the adults are still recovering. We saw a mama black bear with two cubs (from a safe distance) and only one other human-it was really a great trip. My friend who came with us is a grad school photo buddy and she was shooting the whole time-so maybe I'll try and post a few photos.

Saludos a todos

Alex McGrath: La chachalaca si todavia vive es una perra de origen extraterrestre que vivia en casa de Dominic. Era mitad chihuahua y mitad tlacuache. Le gustaba beber chelas. Muy simpatica era la perrita. Tal vez me confundes con Mark Freudenthaler quien nacio en Canada. Yo naci en el D.F. Pobre Mark vive en Alberta donde hace un frio picudo casi todo el tiempo.
Mr. Diederich. Que placer. Te mandare un e-mail. El mio es reidmar@ciaccess.com

Edited by author 09-02-2001 01:07 AM
I definitely agree with the previous comments...don't touch a thing Geor. It seemed to me like time stood still for the women of the class of 81. Not so true for the guys but like Dominic says, the game has just begun. I hear from lots of people that they love their 40's. It was actually very funny to show Javier the picture of the class and have him not recognize certain people in our class. Felicidades Alex L. de tu doctorado. Cual es el titulo de tu dissertation?
 Mike B. Thanks for the photos.

Saludos a todos.

By the way, what number message was the anonimos? I totally missed that.


One FINAL thing about the payment thing, let's drop it for good now. Besides, those responsible are not reading this chat so why go on and on. It wasn't any of us so let's forget it. Cindy is taking care of her part and Anaceci told me that she and Ramon are squared away.

John Bauer, did you keep in touch with Tom Frungillo or Bill Arellano after high school? What happened to those guys?

Welcome John M., I remember you. Weren't you from Canada? Who's la Chachalaca or is it better we not ask.

Alex L., just why did we all think you were joking when you wrote Dr. Alex Loya? Must be something about your past. Anyway, congratulations! Then you mention Senior Citizen Magazine. Come on! That's just the type of comment we don't need right now, we're all kind of sensitive with all this 20 year celebration thing.

Georgina, don't let them cut you up! Yes we're all fighting gravity but just don't OK? I agree with John B and Dominic, you look great like that. You know I used to grow hair on my head, now it's sliding down to my ears and nose! Really disgusting subject but anyway. Then you start having gray hairs inside your nose, can't believe it! You've really got to be careful with those cause short people look up to your face and think there's something else in there. Then there's the wild eyebrows, the belly, snoring, gases, being cranky, forgetting everything, the list goes on. Why didn't anybody warn us of these things? We weren’t like this!

John Marroney... The man who drew the best cartoons in school! Great cartoonist! I think the last time we spoke was around 18 years ago, you were an English teacher...
How are you bubba!
I have often thought about you!
I always had you pegged as a farmer! But I pegged myself as one too!
Email me--- TVOptions@aol.com
Saludos a todos!

GEORGINA: THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS IN UBID, BUT NOTHING I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT. BY THE WAY, I AGREE CON EL COMENTARIO DE JOHN BAUER,YOU LOOK GREAT! ADEMAS, WHO HAS TIME FOR A MIDLIFE CRISIS? ESTA FIESTA LLAMADA VIDA ACABA DE EMPEZAR.

JOHN MARONEY: GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU MAN. I REMEMBER YOUR DAD AT YOUR HOUSE ALWAYS HAVING A COUPLE OF BEEFEATERS AND TONIC?. LA VERDAD, TU JEFE SE PORTO SUPER BUENA ONDA CON NOSOTROS TODO EL TIEMPO. THAT AFTERNOON AT THE TABLITA I DID INDULGE HEAVILY, I MIGHT NOT HAVE PAID FOR IT THEN BUT I PAID FOR IT THE DAY AFTER!

LOYA: CONGRATS ON THE HEAVENLY DOCTORATE, IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL IF YOU MAKE IT TO POPE OR YOUR RELIGION'S EQUIVALENT IN THE FUTURE. REMEMBER YOU SAID AT THE REUNION YOU WERE GOING TO PRAY (A LOT) FOR ME, I AM COUNTING ON THAT.

SALUDOS A TODOS
DOMINIC

Georgina: Donde vivimos no hay muchos veterinarios es que si se enferma uno de los animales tenemos que esperar un buen rato. Este invierno pasado una de nuestras yeguas tuvo colico y se murio durante la noche. La cosa es que es necesario chequar a los caballos todo el tiempo. Pero como tu sabes si el colico es serio no hay mucho que se puede hacer. Que suerte tener dos veterinarios en una familia. En nuestra granja nosotros adoptamos a caballos viejos e heridos. Es mucho trabajo pero nos gusta mucho. Nuestro hijo Barrett nos ayuda con las tareas diarias.
Dominic: Recuerdas la vez que mi padre nos invito a La Tablita. Se fue a la casa y nos dejo con un "open tab". Yo creo que te comiste tres baby beefs y cinco quesos asados. Le caistes muy bien a mi padre.
Hasta pronto

Alex L: Congratulations on your Doctorate. I commend you for completing such an arguous task.

John M: Welcome. I remember you well.

Georgina: No, I don't think we're going through our mid-life crisis. And don't you dare surgically alter your body. You look wonderfull the way you are.

Edited by author 09-01-2001 02:29 AM
Here's a true horror story: I was waiting in line at a roller coaster ride over in Dollywood when I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that said,"Its a senior thing...you wouldn't understand" and I thought "Senior thing? Hmmm... medicare, AARP, bingo, social security, gray hair..." then I read the little letters on the bottom of the shirt "Class of 2001".
by the way, Mic Jagger was recently on the cover of a senior citizen magazine where they advertise walkers and stuff, apparently he didn't like it!
John M. good to hear from you! Thanks! Thanks to you too Georgina, gracias tambien por tu honestidad!

John M: Bienvenido! Me acuerdo muy bien de ti. Que buena onda que le entraste al chat. I never realized you had such a love for animals. I'm a vet, I live in So. California. My husband is also a vet and was originally planning on being an equine vet but ended up with small animals (he got tired of the colics in the middle of the night!).

Dominic: Le entraste al ubid?

Alex L: Felicidades en tu doctorate degree. Para ser honesta contigo, I am not big on discussing religion (I often skip what you write about religion - just not my cup of tea), however, I am big on recognizing such a big effort when it comes to education. Mil felicidades!

Alex M: You just made me feel sooooo old.... It is sooo time to consider a boob job, face lift, liposuction,and whatever else is out there! It's not the same thing 20 years later..!!! There, I have just spoken like a true mid-life crisis person!

Sammy: Are we going through mid-life crisis?

Les mando saludos desde Canada. Que les puedo contar? I have lived in Canada for 19
years. I am married and have a beautiful three year old son. His name is Barrett
Emerson. His mom's name is Nina. Nina teaches History at the University of Windsor. I
teach Spanish at St Clair College. We live on a farm with 9 horses and assorted critters.
Quite a detour from Mexico City. Although I only attended the AHS for two years I have
many fond memories of the cuates. I read all about the reunion. It sounds like you all
had fun.
To Alex Loya I say congratulations on your Doctorate. That must have been alot
of hard work.
To Dominic: Que paso con la chachalaca?
To Pepino: Todavia vives?
Although I have to use a tractor to clear the farm lane I am still a Mexicano at heart. I
crave mexican food on a daily basis and I have become adept at improvising.At least
Canada has decided to import cilantro.Mmmm. Hasta luego

ANACECILIA: NO MAL INTERPRETES LAS COSAS: POSIBLEMENTE ME REFERIA A QUE EN UN CLUMPEAÑOS DE JULIA, ANGUS CONVENCIERA A ALEX Y A OLIVER QUE SERIA BUENA IDEA TOMARSE UNAS 5-6 CHAPARRITAS DE HIDALGO(NO SE IS TODAVIA EXISTEN) Y QUE MIENTRAS TODOS ESTUVIERAN PEGANDOLE A LA PIÑATA SE ROBARAN EL PASTEL Y LO EMBARRARAN EN EL CARRO DE ALGUN PROFESOR DE CIVISMO.


SALUDOS
DOMINIC

Alex, Those entering college now were born in 1983!!

Que horros, mejor ni entramos en detalles!

Javi, felicidades! Isauro gracias por el tip,ademas, tu gorda suena sensacional. Fer: Julia tambien se esta tardando en hablar por los dos idiomas, pero Oliver pobre! (he'll get it right, eventually !) By the way, la tia de Hector Hernandez es la agregada cultural en la embajada de Mexico en Belgica. Aunque no se en que ciudad esta la embajada.

Dominic, yo estoy confiando que Julia pueda ser amiga de little Alex, Angus y Oliver. (De hecho el hijo de Karen Jaris y los de Ramon estan en mi top ten list). Pero con esos comentarios....

Kelly, I think it's only right that you get message 1981 AND that Ramon puts up the Tequila bottle!

Just about now 20 years ago we were heading for our first day in college.

Fernando - Oh yeah, I can taste it now.....DEFINATELY something to go for!

Kelly - In my book the biggest one of 'em all should be posting No. 1981. Whoever posts that one should get a whole case of tequila, not just one bottle!

Great! It went through! Real fast! Feelings hurt, nobody said anything about "Dr. Alex Loya", trying to show off, nobody noticed! It just ain't right! Earned Doctor of Theology Degree from Baptist Seminary. Will begin teaching serious Bible College, New Testament Survey and maybe Hermeneutics.
Will start new chat to teach, many of you seemed interested at reunion, subject of hell by popular demand. Ok, see if this one goes through...

Paul! Great to hear from you! Missed you at the reunion! Sorry I woke you up a few years ago!
I'm doing this really fast see if my ISp puts it through, its giving me a lot of trouble! I can't even say hi!

Ramón- Next time you are in Lima, look me up. It would be great to catch up over a good pisco, although I still prefer tequila. Hi to all. Paul

Hello testing! 1,2,3

Fernando - no, you don't get anything for posting message 1500, except that knowledge that I'm envious that AGAIN, someone beat me to a significant posting number...I WILL get message 2000!!! Hey, I don't have big needs, eh?

Kids have been back in school for a few weeks, so we're getting back into a routine, with activities and homework. The getting up early for the bus is still killing me.....

Fer: Feliz Aniversario! Once your babies start really talking then you actually want them to stop! Just kidding, it's fun to see how many words they start picking up on a daily basis. Nuestro hijo Chase cumplio 2 el sabado. Nuestra nena Rebecca (que ya tiene 4) le sirve de ejemplo y asi es de que habla mucho comparado a lo que ella hablaba a los dos. Entre los dos no paran de hablar desde el momento en que despeiertan hasta que caen muertos en la noche (not to mention como acaamos John y yo after all their yacking!!).

Ingrid: No te preocupes de la cesarea. Rebecca fue un parto normal pero con Chase me hicieron cesarea porque se enredo en el cordon umbilical. No worries, no big deal. Just make sure you have enough people to help you with the baby once you go home porque no te van a dejar hacer mucho por 6 semanas (no driving for two weeks, no going up and down stairs for 7 days, no carrying anything other than the baby for 6 weeks, no strenous activity for 6 weeks.).Quiza lo mejor sea que te quedes con tu mama. Fuera de los limitations que el doctor pone, it's no big deal. Duele un poco despues pero para eso hay Vicodin!

Ana Ceci: Ya se que dijiste que es borron y cuenta nueva pero de todas formas me gustaria saber cuanto mas se debe (a ti, A Ramon, y a Cindy).

JANITO: JUST GOT BACK FROM A 2 WEEK BUSINESS TRIP, FELICIDADES ON THE LITTLE JANITO JR.!!! NOW IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE ANGUS MEETS JANITO JR. Y LE PONGA SU PRIMERA PEDITA!!

RAMONCITO: FELICIDADES POR LO DE TU NUEVO TEQUILA, CAN'T WAIT TO TRY THE STUFF, WHERE CAN I BUY MY FIRST CASE??

CINDY:NO PROBLEM, DISCO DUCK AVAILABLE.

TO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS CHISME-CHAT SITE
SALUDOS

JANITO: JUST GOT BACK FROM A 2 WEEK BUSINESS TRIP, FELICIDADES ON THE LITTLE JANITO JR.!!! NOW IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE ANGUS MEETS JANITO JR. Y LE PONGA SU PRIMERA PEDITA!!

RAMONCITO: FELICIDADES POR LO DE TU NUEVO TEQUILA, CAN'T WAIT TO TRY THE STUFF, WHERE CAN I BUY MY FIRST CASE??

CINDY:NO PROBLEM, DICO DUCK AVAILABLE.

TO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS CHISME-CHAT SITE
SALUDOS

Just realized that if I post this message I will be number 1500... nice round number but I do not think I get anything for it, right Kelly?

Isauro, que buen onda con tu hija. El mío aún está demasiado pequeño y por lo tanto todavía no habla, pero ya me deja saber que me quiere cada vez que llego a la casa de la oficina y me ve, se emociona, se pone a dar brincos y luego llega corriendo a darme un abrazo. It makes my day, everyday.

Y habalndo de cuando los bebés empiezan a hablar, lo único que Oliver dice es papapapapapa o mamamama (se nota lo que le hemos estado tratando de enseñar), pero sospechamos que no sabe lo que está diciendo. La verdad es que como Nathalie le haba en holandés, yo en español, y nos oye hablar en inglés, el pobre ha de estar más confundido de lo que you estaba en highschool en las clases de cálculo diferencial!

Bueno, hoy saldré de la oficina antes de lo habitual para ir a recoger a Nathalie e irnos a cenar - hoy cumplimos 2 años de casados, que en comparación a Mike y sus 12 somos unos polluelos... Kind of makes me feel younger!

Abrazo a todos y beso a todas.

Ramon: Thanks for the heads up regarding your roaming service in Peru. Please let me know what your Nextel # is and I'll make sure to have it looked into. Do you mind if someone calls you to ask you what difficulties you had? It could be as simple as not being signed up for international service. Although after your thorough description of Pisco sours, are you sure alcohol-induced operator error wasn't a factor? What a fun job you have!

Felicidades a todos los nuevos padres y madres!

La experiencia de ser padre (o madre) es inigualable. Mi hija ya tiene 3 años y medio y que divertidas nos damos. Sale con cada cosa que me quita el aliento. Por ejemplo, el otro dia utilize la palabra 'constante'. Me pregunto que definiera la palabra. Hubo un silencio cuando acabe de explicarle lo que 'constante' significa, y me dice "Just like my love for you, because I love you sooo much" con su vocecita, y al decirlo me toma de la mano, la pone sobre su cachete, y cierra los ojos. Me derreti!!!!!!

Ayer fuimos a una feria. Estabamos en el carrusel (spelling?) (le encantan los caballos y monta su pony) y ella escoje su caballo y me manda al que esta atras de ella. Empieza el carrusel y me dice, ' you can't catch me, my horse is faster'. Allit estuvimos, cada uno alentando a nuestro caballo para ir mas rapido, y que se le hace, me ganó.

Espero todos se encuentren bien. Que delicia es estar vivo!

Un fuerte abrazo,
Isauro

P.S. Lastima de lo de los que no pagaron. Una tecnica que usan en los establos es que cada mes al quinto dia, se publica una lista de todos los que no han pagado la mantencion de su caballo como se debe al dia primero. Nadie quiere estar en la lista! Por lo general la lista esta en blanco y si no, se aclara casi casi al dia siguiente de ser publicada.

Ana Ceci: En el futuro hay una compañía Canadiense que se llama "HyperWallet" que permite collectar effectivo a travez del Internet sin necesidad de todo el rollo que hacen las tarjetas de credito. Para mas informacion ve a www.hyperwallet.com o pide informacion al e-mail: pwilkinson@hyperwallet.com

Edited by author 08-27-2001 08:15 PM
Can`t keep up with the reading, I even missed the anonimos. Just got back from Lima Peru, where I researched the Spirits market, specially "Pisco" their National drink much like Tequila is to us. It was very interesting to see the differences and similarities between Mexico and them. Their recession look worse than ours and they are still recovering from Fujimori, although they are planning on extraditing him from Japan, and arrest warrants have been issued for former bureaucrats. I felt that Peru is more European than México, much like Mexico was until the '70s. Now to the Fun part: Pisco is a spirit produced from three types of grapes: quebranta(Cabernet Sauvignon), Tarantela and Negra (pinot Noir), the juice is Fermented for 15-30 days and then distilled once. Pisco, would bring tears to those experts(you know who you are) in Mexican Aguardiente, although it is much softer and with a grape/fruity taste, it only goes through one distillation process. The star Cocktail, is definitely the "Pisco Sour", which is 2 oz. of Pisco, 1 oz of Sugar Syrup or Jarabe Natural, and ( what Cholesterol freaks are going to love) 1oz of Egg white and ice cubes, put all ingredients in the blender and blend for 10 seconds add one or two drops of Angostura(Bitters) and serve in a chilled old fashion glass. For those who cannot find Pisco, you can alway use Tequila.
Bartenders tip: if you want your Margaritas to be foamy, also try adding a dash of Egg White.
Felicidades to all those people who had birthdays and Births.
Cindy: you still owe me a dance!
Mike: Could not use my NExtel in Peru?
cheers

Howdy folks,

Last night I saw the reunion video with my sister Kathy (AHS '80). Great job Anaceci in putting this together! I'm going to need to set aside some time to catch up on this list!

I also thought Alex and Mike did a great job on the writeup in the AHS alumni magazine describing our reunion ( I just got it in the mail).

Anaceci, maybe you can send me the list of who hasn't paid yet and we can post it on the web site for the world to see.

Also, I noticed that on the AHS '80 site last year the "anonimos" really ruined the chat for many others. Let's hope they don't do it here.

Alex McG: I would never stop the adoption!! The more road blocks that come before me the more determined I am to go on--sad to think that people do turn away from the process, however, when it becomes difficult...The truely hard thing is the reality that I am only one person with one home, and there are thousands of children that need a home, and one can only do so much..But every day I am closer and closer to bringing our little one home..

Sammy, I spoke with Pepino. He saw the eye surgeon you suggested and all the doc ordered were some glasses. Guess that's pretty much that can be done in that area. Y no le cobró. Pepino sounds kind of bored with his present job and asked me to mention here that he is looking around for something else, a little bit more challenging where he can progress in the future. He's seen Carla Smallwood and has considered doing translations, which is what she does. But for that he'd need a PC and someone to teach him how to use it. And he says he's rather slow translating. Not an easy life.

Fernando, totally agree of the importance of parents in a child's first years. They'll grow more secure etc.

Ricardo O, qué gusto que escribes algo.

Alex L., I hope you make it to Africa. If not, wherever you live is as important. Good to have you back.

Cindy, I hope you find the strength to continue pursuing that adoption. The idea of turning a disaster into a life full of blessings is a good enough reason to go on with your project.

Javier, congrats on your daughter.

This is beginning to sound like a Senior will, "Jimmy I will you my locker, Betty thanks for the good times, Pete, keep in touch." And of course you never heard of Pete again.

I almost forgot...

Javier: Feliz cumpleaños. And congrats on your new baby! I'm sure both you and your wife are still glowing...

Ingrid: Sorry to hear that you'll need the C-Section. My wife had one and, well she says it wasn't all that bad. It was a surreal experience for her though. I watch the whole thing and I found it to be pretty brutal. Just remember, when they give you the pain pills afterwards, make sure they also give you some stool softner. Gets ugly otherwise. Luck to Tirso on his interview results. I'm sure everything will turn out in the end. Just imagine all the fun stories you'll be telling as your child grows up!

Alex J.: Congrats on your new baby!

Carol: My best wishes to your mother. May she recuperate soon.

Mike B: Congrats on your 12th. My wife and I celebrated our 12th earlier this year too. RE: Acapulco - My last visit to Las Brisas was several years ago and yes, as soon as the sun set, the pools got interesting <g>. Anyone know if the resort has been kept up to shape?

Cindy: It is a slow process and I commend you on sticking to it. Hope to still see you next month on the 22nd.

Yolanda: Feliz cumpleaños. We won't tell on you if you don't tell on us <g>.

Alex L: Glad to see you back. Missing you on your other chat site.

Cary: How are things going down under?

Hello everyone!

Georgina:
Good memory. My B-day is today though (close enough). Thanks for remembering.

Loya:
Thanks to you too for the best wishes on the birth of my daughter Olivia.


To everyone:
I wish I could have been at the reunion but (un) fortunately my wife was due that very weekend. I did see the class picture thanks to Sammy J. I must admit I was not able to recognize all the faces. I hope there will be another opportunity to get together soon.

Best wishes

HELLO MY FRIENDS, IT'S BEEN A WHILE!!!
My server was down, or I just had no idea how to make it work... but today, I had no problem.

My news: My mother organized a baby shower for me, and it was beautiful.
I had the great super surprise of having Georgina Marquez show up. WOW! I was so moved and happy to see her. She looks Marvelous!!!!
WE had a very nice afternoon.
:)

With regards to Tirso.... he is still in Mexico and we are still waiting to see what will happen. He had his interview on August 7th, but still... no news!
:(

The baby.... well she has decided NOT to turn... not good. That means a C-section.
:(
I was going to turn her exrenally, but have decided against it. Nature knows why it does what it does. So if the baby still wants to turn, she will, and if not, well I'll have to surrender to the C-section.
YUCK!!!
That is the last thing I wanted, but oh well... it's not the end of the world.

Tirso's daugthers are still with me. They don't want to go back to Spain... They are waiting to see if their dad will be arriving soon. And they are waiting to meet their new sister.

With regards to all of you who attended the reunion and have not paid... no se vale que le hagan eso a Anacecilia. She worked hard and put her own money for your sake, it's time you paid her and had some integrity!!
It is sad that three months have gone by, and this situation still persists. You know who you are. Clean up your act!!!

With regards to all the anonimos: Get a life MARICONES! And stay away from our message board.

Bueno amiguitos, my hands are full with my 2 girls....so I must say chao.

Hey Freud,
There are a few of us that have the intention of crashing your reunion next year. Dominic, Ramon Ricoy, myself and a few others maybe.
Saludos, and remember "winners never quit and quitters never win".

I almost made it to the pre-party for Class of '81 - missed it by a week. This is Paul Freudenthaler, class of '82. I'm in Fort Lauderdale, and am trying to organize a "mini-get-together" including Class of '80 through Class of '84. The date is set for Oct. 12 and the place is likely to be somewhere in the Fort Lauderdale area which will be accessible to alumni from West Palm Beach in the North to Miami in the South.

Is there anybody from Class of '81 that can send me the name of Class of '81 alumni that live in the So. Florida area. I'd like to contact them and at least make them aware of our intentions. If somebody either has a list or a few addresses of So. Fla. residents, please send them to me at pdfreud@aol.com. Please make sure to include their names as well.

Saludos to all. Heard the reunion was a great success. A ver quien llega a Aca 2002!

Cindy: Bless you for trying to improve the life of some of these children. I have a good friend in Miami who has adopted two beautiful Russian girls. Now they speak Spanish with a Nicaraguan accent. If you'd like, I'd be happy to put you in touch.

Edited by author 08-22-2001 09:37 AM
Carol: I am so sorry to hear your mom is in the hospital. I always secretly wished that she would be my mom! She was the "ultimate mom". I even remember being in High School seeing her walking around and I still would get a warm fuzzy in my heart! Although she was never my teacher, she served as a "silent mentor" and a comforting constant prescence throught elementary, junior high and high school.Please give her my best and our thoughts and prayers are with her and Joseph!

Alex: congrats on #2. Give Jacyln and Alex Victor kisses from the class of '81.

Mike: 12 years!! We just had our 5 year anniversary this weekend(hence I couldn't go to Elena's wedding).I am amazed at the process of having my own family and our marriage bond that grows stronger every year..It feels like a covalent bond --two individuals whom have forged into something new and better...Congrats!

Yolanda: Happy belated BD--enjoy the thirty somethings...those 40 somethings are coming (gulp gulp gulp)
sometime in the future for all of us!

Dominic: Acapulco? Hmmmm, I would need a dance partner...

Fer, Sammy, Alex, Georg, AnaCeci, etc: Let's make the money thing a mute point. I will still work on it from this end..I
offered the down payment assuming the risk, and it is OK! Next time we should see if we could set up to take credit cards or cash (in my case checks were improperly filled out) and we would get paid right away. Does anyone out there know how to set up an account or whom to contact so that we could take credit cards?

Our adoption continues to progress slowly. I now have to travel to Russia twice, unfortunately. Closer to travel time I will be looking for donations of medical supplies (children's/infants tyelnol/motrin), low iron formula, clothes, etc, etc. to take over there. I frequently find myself needing to take a deep slow breath...emotionally I need to gather up all the strength I can muster in order to "keep it together" when I see a ton of children hungry for love and a home. The encouraging thing is that now I have many friends whom already have one biological child whom are now seeking to adopt for the same reasons we are--because we can! The adoption agency we are using has a website www.swaf.com--for those whom are interested

Fer: I'm in Mexico for a quick in-out trip. I'm staying with Edith and Ronnie, who told me about visiting you and that Oliver is ready for GQ (once he grows up) and Natalie is the best mom in the world. Great to hear that!

Alex L. I hear that some missionaries that went to Afghanistan got arrested cuz the Taliban don't like people converting muslims to christianity. Pakistan doesn't sound so extreme and Africa seems like they can use all the help they can get. I'm praying for you to get to fulfill your mission!

Great joke:
Esposa: Oye, puedes por favor reparar la gotera en el baño?
Esposo: Ubicate!... Yo no soy plomero.
Esposa: Oye, puedes por favor cambiar el foco que se fundio?
Espos: Ubicate!... Yo no soy electricista.
Esposa: Oye, puedes por favor cortar el pasto?
Esposo: Ubicate!... Yo no soy jardinero.

A los dos dias viene el esposo a casa y ve que la gotera se arreglo, el foco se cambio, y que el pasto esta corto. Le pide a su esposa como lo hizo y ella le responde: Vino el vecino y me dijo que lo hacia si hacia el amor con el o se le hacia un pastel.

Esposo: A, y de que sabor le hiciste el pastel?
Esposa: Ubicate!.... Yo no soy repostera!

Hola a todos los del '81. Acabamos de tener una mini class of '82 reunion en West Hollywood el pasado 11 de Agosto. Me puse en contacto con Georgina y Gaby para extenderles la invitacion, pero desafortunadamente, no pudieron asistir. Si gustan pueden visitar la siguiente website y ver fotos de nuestra reunion.
http://communities.msn.com/ASFClassof19781...iareunion81101.msnw

Un saludo a todos.

Georgina M. Hola nunca me llego la direccion para su reunion del 18. Como les fue

Dominic Hola como estas, te acuerdas de mi?

Acabo de recibir el Gazette. Mil gracias a todos los que ayudaron a escribirlo (Alex M, as usual, eres un fenomenal escritor!).

Alex J: Mil felicidades por tu nuevo baby! Cuando puedas pon fotos en el web page.

Yola: Feliz cumple!

Javi: Tambien feliz cumple. Creo que es hoy no?

Ricardo: Gracias por la info. Tan pronto me digas en donde, yo estoy en primera fila!

Mike: Feliz aniversario. Tessy is beautiful (and you're right, you should've been in the dog house!). Aunque tengo que decir que hiciste muchos meritos al llevar a las ninas camping on your own.

Hey, Rothman!!!!!! Are you OK? I heard a couple of buckets of rain water are pouring over there in Cancun. I sincerely wish everything is OK over there.

To everyone else: Hola

Edited by author 08-20-2001 06:55 PM
Hello! Long time no see! My ISP blocked this site out by mistake and they haven't unblocked it, I believe I am going to have to get a new ISP, although I am concerned about getting a filtered one that wont filter this site out. I'm actually using the computer at the public library. But here I am, I know ya'll were missing me!

Alex J. Felicidades! I know what it feels like to have a brand new, preemy lil'Alex! It's great! Gracias por las fotos! Me llegaron hace bastante tiempo pero no me he podido comunicar hasta hoy. En verdad te lo agradesco!

Eddie B. I remember you, except your file in my mind has not yet been updated, I see you as a young teenage kid with long hair.

Bummer news, it does not look like I am travelling to Africa to conduct the crusades, I haven't persued raising money because I do not like asking people for money. I had thought I would be able to pay the whole show on my own, but they recently cut my pay significantly, I still make enough to provide for my family and for my wife to be a stay at home mom, I need at least $1000 a week for that, but I won't be able to spare the extra $3000 for the plane ticket plus a few thousand more for the crusade and seminar expenses. Of course, if I don't know who said they got a bunch of plane tickets to travel anywhere in the world for 90 bucks would like to donate a ticket to Africa or sell it cheap, I may could swing the rest of the expenses (hint, hint whoever) You know, alot of good things come from these crusades, in Pakistan last year over 1100 people turned their lives around to the Lord, about 20 something churches were started from that, a bunch of literacy centers to teach people to read and write etc. were opened, food distribution centers and not to say anything about the fact that when people in those areas turn to the Lord they stop thinking of America as the great satan and therefore the threat of nuclear war and terrorism is reduced which makes it safer for you guys to travel to Europe and it benefits all of us. Anyway, I'm a little bummed out cause of that, but maybe the Lord is teaching me to humble myself.

On the other hand, the good news is that I may actually be a full time pastor within the next year and may be a Theology professor once again in a more established college!

Congratulations to Javi and all the others with new babies! My baby girl, Karaleigh, is absolutely beautiful! I'm serious! This is not just a dad speaking! She is so pudgy, little fat cheeks, fat little hands and she smiles from ear to ear every time she sees me, and this one is my clone, she looks exactly like me! Except she is really femenine while I, on the other hand, am deeply masculine ( I hope so anyway!). Lil' Alex, better know as Connor, had some great theological insight, my wife was showing him a picture we have on the wall of an empty cross with a sky behind it because he had pointed at it. My wife was telling him "This picture reminds us about Jesus, He died for our sins so we can go to heaven" Lil' Alex looked at the picture thoughtfully for almost a minute, maybe 30 seconds or so, then he smiled and pointed at it again as he said "Bible!" He is only 20 months old, running around in diapers, the joy of my life, I don't know how he connected the two in his mind, apart from the Lord.

Carey, i just recently got your email, did you get mine?
Adriana Arroyo emailed me as well, hi Adriana!
I'm still planning to start a new branch out of this chat to teach, not to argue, those of you who are interested some Biblical theology, I'll keep you posted.

Anyway, just keeping in touch. Marcie, where ya'at?
Alright kids, have fun at your reunions, just don't do anything I wouldn't do!
love to ya'll,
Alex

Hola a todos,
Estos ultimos dias han sido increibles. Me siento increiblemente orgulloso. El bebe y Nancy estan bien. Creo que podran venir a casa mañana. Muchas gracias a todos por sus palabras.

Cindy: Dejame saber cuanto falta de pagar y yo con mucho gusto coopero.

Ricardo: Se hizo asi en el Playboy channel, asi que realmente ni lo necesito. HAhahahahahahahah estubo bueno.

Mike: Congratulations on your 12th. please extend it to your lovely wife.
Yola: Happy belated b-day.

Una vez mas a todos muchas gracias. Long live the Class of 81.
Saludos

Por fin se reanuda el chat. I guess summer is pretty much over!

I have spoken to the last two people who owed me money and they said they will someday (soon) pay back. I made it very clear that as far as I'm concerned, it is not worth it to loose the friendship so I will not ask for it again. As Sammy mentioned, thanks to him, Domi, Alex J, Geor and Mike, I pretty much balanced the "loss" I had because of the peso over evaluating and stuff. Cindy, you were Ramon's and myself's biggest concern. We really thought that you had been paid off. The only thing that I can think of is that some checks either bounced or couldn't be cashed. I hope this can be solved soon. Please let me know. Other than that, and quoting my husband John "therapy would've cost him more". I really enjoyed working with Ramon in preparing all, being in constant touch with Ingrid, Cindy and Karen over the year, loved the party, and have enjoyed tremendously the after party small get togethers, the becoming friends to the families of classmates who were never real good friends then, the re-evaluation of our lives, this chat, etc. etc. etc. ALL OF THE ABOVE IS PRICELESS and so, as far as I am concerned, the '81 class reunion Money issue IS CLOSED.

Alex J. las fotos estan lindas, He's so cute! ademas, mi papa se llamaba Victor por lo que ya siento al pequeño Alex Victor como mi concentido.

Yola, como te fue en Brasil? Nos encanto estar con ustedes en el rio. Happy late b-day.

Carol, keep me posted on your Mom's recovery.

Carol y Fer. I have two job offerings at the moment. I don't know which to take, if any. I always was a workaholic, managing at least one job and some volunteer job as well. When I got married I quit everything because I would travel a lot. I eventually got involved in John's work because not only does he work from home, but he needed the help and I really needed to feel useful. It was ok, specially when I was pregnant because I couldn't go anywhere, but now I feel like I need to do more. I enjoy being with Julia and John all day, but sometimes feel I need some space. I also realize that Julia will grow up soon and that this time will end. I really don't know what to do. I will also appreciate other moms input.

Eddie, que memoria!

Elena, muchas felicidades.

Any word on Marcie Miracle?

Hi everyone!
So here I am, sometimes a passive reader, sometimes not.
Cindy: Haven't got lost. How is everything up there in Colorado? Give Trent my best regards.
Alex: ¿Otro???? Te voy a regalar una tele...sin playboy channel!!! Just Kidding...mil felicidades!
Jodi: Hi there, any word about our friends Mr. & Mrs. Chuck Alexander? If you get in touch give them my best wishes.
Georgina: Guess... parece que George es ahora un miembro activo de la banda Chippendale's y se sabe que hace giras bailando en cueros por todo el país. As soon as he goes international I'll let you know. ;-)
Bueno, espero que todos estén bien.
Saludos.

Alex, muchas felicidades por el nuevo bebé. It brings back memories form last year. ¡Qué padre!

Carol, best of wishes for your mom’s fast recovery. Please give her our best, and say hi to your sister Laurie. I will pray for your little Joseph and his allergies. You know, in our case, ever since before the baby came Nathalie and I discussed how we would bring him up, with regards to staying home or day care center. As I strongly believe that parents are very important to children during their first several years life, I feel very lucky to have had Nathalie say from her own free will that she wanted to be a stay home mom (perhaps that is even another of the 345,563,564 reasons I married her! (-: ). However, I have frequently wondered what it is going to be like for her when she, like you, has to let go. How about some feed back from moms out there that have already gone through this process? Any comments on what worked and what didn't?

Mike, congratulations on the 12th (pinche ruco) wedding anniversary. ¡Qué aguante el de Tessy!

Cindy and Anaceci, enough is enough. After having gone through all the work and loaning the money for free, in my book it is not good enough to say we believe you came out more or less even. Our classmates that have not paid bring a bad name to our class, and school (chances are they do not limit themselves to their personal life, but that they actually carry it over into their business lifes). To me, people like them have an absolute lack of class - I mean, if you really do not have the money to pay for an event like this then you should gracefully decline attending... at least there is no shame in that. For openers I vote that for our next class reunion we do not let anyone without a ticket in - with NO EXCEPTIONS MADE. None of this "Oh, come on, he is a real nice guy! I like him a lot, and I am sure he will pay later." To make things easier on ourselves, perhaps we can get "bouncers" to collect tickets at the door so that none of us have to go through the hazel of making the call (with the exception of Georgina which might actually get pleasure from doing so!). And for now, Cindy and Anaceci, please post a message in this board stating how much money you guys are still short, and lets have our classmates with a little class chip in to finish this off once and for all. BTW, I think everyone here is perfectly aware of who those classy individuals are which have already chipped in, and to them a big thanks!

Till next time, all those ticket payers, take care!

Felicidades Alex por el nuevo bebe!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember when we used run into school and announce happily: "I got a new bike!" or "Vamos a jugar con mi nuevo balon!". Later I guess it will be, "Hey, nice set of new teeth!".
Anyways, congratulations to the Juarez family.

Toño

Georgina: I know two of the names (I think there were some on this side of the border that stiffed Cindy). As much as I would like to tell you all, I don't think it would be cool to do so in such a public way. I am taking Anacecilia's lead on this. I think we should just let it go. I think Anacecilia has received enough donations to kind of call it even. That's my understanding. However, Cindy, it would be good to hear from you how many tickets you got stuck paying for. For those of you who do not know, Cindy and her husband payed the deposit on the reunion and expected to be payed back by ticket sales to their Paypal account (I think this is accurate ...Cindy?) Perhaps a little coperacha her way would be in order. The next reunion will have better safeguards in place.

By the way Alex M, any updates on Pepino??

Yolanda perdoname. Feliz cumpleaños.

Finally, hoy vi a Javier Arizmendi y a Felipe Landa los dos con sus nuevas hijitas. La de Javier nacio el Weekend de nuestra reunion y la de Felipe tres semanas despues. Estan preciosas las niñas.

Saludos a todos.

Juárez, muchas felicidades por Alex Victor! Just imagine, another Alex Juárez. Guess the world is coming to an end after all.

Eddie, Mechanical Drawing, sure. Great class. We never used those ink pens again with the coming of computers, but I'm still using concepts we learned there. Now that the PC is 20 years old, anybody remember the school's first computer? An Apple II. Mr. Clair wanted it so bad but the school said too expensive and what for. So he organized some raffle to raise money for the computer, and that's how we got it. Anyway, that's the blurry story that's left in my head after 20 years, maybe someone can elaborate. And were those raffle tickets $100 (old) pesos? That would make it a dime, right?

About the gorrones, why doesn't Magnum Buendía or someone else just hack their bank accounts? It would be for the exact amount, of course...

Carol, I hope things go well with Joseph's allergies.

Mike, 12th anniversary already? Wow! Felicidades!

Dominic, I hadn't considered Acapulco, but it sounds good. It's just that 2002 sounds sooo far away.

Yolanda, congrats for your 30 something birthday. We won't say exactly how many if you don't.

Alex J. - Muchissimas felicidades por el nacimiento de tu hijo. Has de estar muy feliz. Considero que cuando la vida no da a nuestros hijos, es el mejor regalo del mundo. Tengo varias amigas que tuvieron "preemies" y su hijas ahora estan más grandes que mi hija y no paran de crecer!!! (-: (-:

Hope everyone finds themselves in good health - I just celebrated my ... (gulp!) ... 30 something birthday, and had invited 2 AHS alumni to a little get-together, but unfortunately, the weren't able to make it. I won't mention any names. (Smile). However, there are always reasons to get together, so if you are in the San Francisco area, don't forget to give a buzz.

Hi all. I just thought I would update you on my goings on. Joseph started pre-K on Thursday. It has been a big "letting go" shock for me. He will go 5 days a week from 8AM to 3PM. Now I am by myself at home and it seems so strange! I miss him a lot. I am getting a lot of things done, one of them is looking for a part-time job. I still want to be really involved in Joseph's school and pick him up. These last 4 years have been the best in my life. Being a stay-at-home Mom has had its financial sacrifices and difficult times, but it has been worth it. I thank God for this time.

Joseph also had allergy testing done recently. He is unfortunately allergic to everything (trees, grass, mold, weeds, cat/dog hair, etc.) Thankfully, the allergist did not recommend allergy shots at this time. He is taking medication only. I would appreciate any prayers for Joseph in dealing with his allergies.

My Mom (Tere Gabriel) who used to teach at the American School is currently in the hospital. She had both legs operated on. One had a torn tendon and the other was about to tear. It has been a very difficult surgery for her (she will be 70 in October, but she was to the point she could not walk any more. I am eternally grateful to my sister Laurie who has been down here taking care of her for the last week. She has been a life saver since I have been unable to go over to help out.

That reminds me, Cindy P. I mentioned to my Mom a long time ago that you remembered the great BD parties she organized for me when I was little, and she was very flattered. Thank you for remembering her. She remembered you well.

Alex - Muchas felicidades por el nuevo bebe. La hermana de mi esposo acaba de tener su primer hijo. Les deseo lo mejor para su bebe.

Carol