Ballot:

Reunion Czar - Ramon Ricoy (but still Jody a close second)
Location - Acapulco Fairmont Princess (though I though folks would suggest Zihuataneco (sp?))
Date - March (doesn't it rain pretty regularly during April/May?)

Acapulco Princess is my vote! The last week of March. This is right before Seman Santa in Mexico. Not too many Nationals in Acapulco at this time.

Hey everyone, as you can read, Ramon is ready & willing so I say we take a quick vote and appoint Ramon "the reunion czar".
I guess the location will be Acapulco.
Please everyone cast a vote on one of the 3 site options Ramon has indicated. Final vote deadline April 1st, don't be a fool and cast you vote.

Dominic: Ya sabes que encantado, yo creo que Acapulco tambien es buena opcion. Para mi seria facil organizar, todo lo relacionado a la reunion, solo no quiero tener que ver nada con las finanzas. Como minimo necesitamos 15 habitaciones para conseguir precio de Grupo. Una muy buena opcion en Acapulquito es el Fairmont Princess, tiene actividades para niños, puedes escoger tu plan solo desayuno o desayuno y cena o todo incluido, tiene muy buen SPA y la playa esta increible. Ademas para los que añoran lo rustico siempre esta Puerto Marquez. Si somos menos tambien hay unas casas en la Brisas de hasta 16 cuartos que estan muy bien hay una en Pichilingue con su playa privada.
1.-Hay que definir el lugar.
2.-Hay que definir la fecha: como ven del 28 de abril al 1o de mayo 2006.
Hay que votar.....

Domininc. Acapulco sounds good. Pero no se te olvide tu Ariel por si acaso te lanzas a la asotea.

I vote Acapulco! pero no enla sotea!

Creo que Acapulco seria buen lugar. Everybody can get there easy. Rates aren't as expensive as Cancun either. If we plan Acapulco, let's do it in March so it's not too humid and hot. The idea of a cruise is good, but I have a feeling we would either loose a few overboard or the crew would kick some of us out. The Mexican Rivera Cruise is awesome!
Everyone: Cast your votes so we can set a date and place this week. I say either Acapulco or a Mexican Rivera Cruise. IN March 2006. Remember the World Cup is July 2006.

Maroney & Dwight: Visions of a cold Vicky in a hot Mexican Beach! You can almost feel the coolness of the cold bottle against your cheek, raising the bottles up high, hearing the glass sound as bottles crash into each other as we say De Hidalgo! No its not a dream! See you there!

I'm with Georgina, I vote for Mexico! Haven't been back since 1982!

Dominic. Yes. Everyone should attend.It should be easier to spread the word once the location has been determined. How about South Carolina? I think anywhere eastcoast would be easier for alot of folks. I would definitely indulge in a Victoria for old times sake.

If folks don't like the Disney idea, how about a reunion on a cruise ship, out of Miami?

Loya: Que yo recuerde, casi no tomamos nada en la reunion del 2001, casi nadie bailo y casi nadie se divirtio y por eso nos vamos a juntar en el 2006 para sacarnos la espinita y hacer una pachanga historica. No se te ocurra decir que no vas porque inmediatamente serias catalogado como un "mamon" lo cual se veria mal en tu resume. Aparte de que te necesitamos para que vendigas el vino antes del primer brindis.

Georgina: Buena onda que digas las cosas como son. Acapulaco sound good to me. There are a lot of people that don't read this chat so we need to start advertising on the alumni gazette so that the word spreads quickly. Lets set a date and place!

Maroney: Will you be comming out of the tundra for this pedita?

Hubo borrachera en la del 2001?

Watch this: Today, or last night, I was talking to some of the people who attend the church I pastor here in Louisiana. We were talking about Louisiana and Texas history and how they are linked when we mentioned how up in Fort Jackson, a Civil War Fort about 10 miles up the road from my house, there is a monument to LaSalle, the man who claimed Louisiana for the French in 1698. On the monument there is note that says that the actual place where he landed and claimed the land is a few miles down the road from Fort Jackson and the palce where the monument stands. When I had read that on the monument I had thought "Man! I wish I knew where the actual spot is just to see it!" ( I am a history buff) Well, in our conversation, one of the ladies, Sandra Scarabin, says "Whatever happened to the historical marker that was right here in the median?" To make a long story short, the historical marker she asked about used to be in the median by my house and it marked the actual place where LaSalle actually claimed the land for France in 1698... right on my property! Right where my house stands and the church and our yard it was the exact place LaSalle and his entourage landed and claimed the land for France in 1698!!! Right where I'm sitting typing this message for you guys to read!!! Imagine that!!!

Bueno, aunque me gustaria tener la reunion en California la verdad es que se me hace que perderiamos a mucha gente de Mexico por el costo de viajar a USA. En realidad mi voto es por que sea en Mexico. Yo la preferiria en alguna playa pero pienso que Acapulco es la mejor porque es la mas accesible desde el DF. Si a los del DF les da igual ir a Acapulco que a alguna otra playa a mi me gusta el Marriot en Puerto Vallarta. Si nadie en Mexico se anima a organizar, quiza desde aca podamos contactar a alguna agencia de viajes para que la organize all. Quiza el mismo hotel Marriot en Puerto Vallarta o quiza el Hyatt en Acapulco nos ayuden. Pero en buena onda, no empiezen de mamones con que no van a ir. The only way to have a successful reunion is to have as many people there as possible. Asi es de que no le saquen y hay que organizar una super buena peda como la del 2001!

Quien vive?

Ramon: Que ondas, te animas a organizar la reunion?

Anybody out there?
Boy did everyone get quiet!

Hey guys, I am so glad that Georgina spoke up and said exactly what I was thinking. Heidi Mendez and I were just talking and saying the same thing you have to live in the place where you are going to host it or at least the country. Having it at Disneyland is an idea. The next things is set up a committee. Don't try and do it all yourself.

Georgina - you are so right. Wherever it takes place, that is where the lead planner should be. I did a reunion here in Dallas a few years past and know how much work it can be. So it's great you are willing to handle in Anaheim. I think it would be fun. My husband and I are going to DisneyWorld in FL in May for Memorial Day.

Si la reunion es en Mexico then we need people in Mexico heading it with back up from people in the US. Anyone for having it in California? I'll be happy to organize the whole thing if it's here. I now live in Anaheim (15 mins from Disneyland) and organizing it here would be a breeze.

Ramon: You are "in the know" far better than I, how about you make some recommendations?

Anyone else have favorite places?

Hope you like this joke, if you don't just post a better one...

PEPITO STRIKES AGAIN.....(OR PEPITO GOES GLOBAL)
  A grade school teacher in Las Milpas asked her students to use the word "fascinate" in a sentence.
 Maria put up her hand and said, "My family went to my abuelito's farm, and we all saw his pet cabrito. It was fascinating."
 The teacher said, "That was good, but I wanted you to use the word "fascinate,
not fascinating".
 Enriqueta shyly raised her hand. She said, "My family went to see las pyramids
and I was fascinated."
 The teacher said, "Well, that was good, Enriqueta, but I wanted you to use the word "fascinate."
 Pepito raised his hand! The teacher hesitated because she had been burned by Pepito before. She finally decided there was no way he could damage the word "fascinate", so she called on him.
 Pepito said, "My Tia Ninfa has a sweater with ten buttons, but her "chichis"
are so big, she can only fasten eight."
 The teacher cried.

Guys, I can't head this up I'm getting ready to go back to work. I only offered to HELP be on the committee. Huatulco would be great kind of secluded, not alot of people which I think is great, only draw back not that easy for some to get to but I grew up in Oaxaca so I am familiar with it and have friends there. So I like that idea although some may like Acapulco. So we need somebody to take care of the money and to sign the contracts it will not be me. I got to run and go out to dinner more later.

Go Jody Go the world votes for you.
John come on it is one year away.
Elena: big complaints about the food at all Barcelo´´s and bad comments about presidentes intercontinental.

Go Jodi!

Hey all, I've been wanting to check out Huatulco. Would anyone be game for that to be our reunion site. I just did a quick serch and found this all-inclusive hotel that has programs for the kiddos.

http://www.barcelo-resort-huatulco.com/

Canada votes for JODY!!!

My vote is also for Jody (though I may not be attending anyway unless it's close by).

MY VOTE FOR JODY TOO....





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I vote for JODY to head the Committee.

My vote is for JODY

Jody: Your first mistake aschief in comand of the 2006 reunion was that about taking a vote. So here is the first agenda on the ballot box.

WHO VOTES THAT JODY HEADS THIS REUNINON 2006 AS THE GRAND MASTER, ENFORCER AND FINAL DESICION TAKER?
You my got my vote!

Jerry: Anyone who recalls that trip to Acapulco was not there! In fact, anyone who recalls most of High School and in particular La Tiendita was either a fresa or just plain halucinating. I guess 2006 reunon will piece many of the loose ends together. See u all there!

All this beer talk, I could find you a good brewmaster in Milwaukee? Keg type, fermentation, all critical to beer. Thanks,for letting me know were some of you are, you may be surprised.

Dwight, good hearing from you. My firm has an office in Carew(sp) Tower in your town. Didn't know you were so close to the same bad weather pattern this time of year.

Alex J., that trip to Acapulco never happened...but it did. I remember going down a major outdoor waterslide first, than Dominic was going down right after me, about fifteen of us in a row grabbing ankles of the one in front (we were lying on our stomachs and it was innocent); It didn't sink in at the time that I probably shouldn't be going so fast that I am actually looking over the top of the edge of the slide on turns 60 feet over the pavement. If I recall correctly, I wasn't the only one with a skin-shredding tan from the beach because of premature mental fermentation that day, perhaps mine was one of the worst.
 
Alex L, I have really pondered the prior discussion of family versus calling and I believe only you know what your faith has called for you. You will have many prayers and thoughts from your friends, even old ones.

Hey guys well I see that we have not veered from the subject of licquor, or joining the military. Loya you will be my prayers. So I guess we need to get the planning for this reunion under way or it's not going to happen. My suggestion is to set up a committee. Divide and conquer. Make a list of possible locations and then vote. All inclusive or not etc. pros cons, dates, we need to nail that down soon. Who wants to be on the committee. By the way I am not offering to head this up I am only offering to be on the committee. Besos Any takers to head it up?

Ramon. Thanks. I have seen pulque in a can. What's up with that?
Reunion? Either Buda Texas or Wabash Ontario.

Pulque created by the goddess Mayahuel is the fermentation of the heart or bottom part(in the ground)from which the Pencas grow of the Maguey plant. As is the case of Tequila and Mezcal the Pine(resembles a Pineapple when cut) is cut in 4 quarters and cooked in a clay oven for about 12-24 hours which makes the plant very soft and juicy looking of brownish color. These cooked plants are pressed for the juice and this juice is then place in fermentation vats and Levadura? is added to start and speed up the fermentation process, the temperature rises as the juices are fermenting and it is no unusual to see foam on the top. Through the fermentation process the sugars contained in the juice are converted in alcohol. Pulque is a low graduation product having 6-12° G.L. or 12-24 Proof, alhtough it seems that it has more. The reason being the lack of effective filtration and the inlusion of high alcohols.
Regarding spirits in Boxes this is still a very traditional industry we will not see in the near future since most plastics do have some effect on the flavor of spirits. The boxes will definitely not hold beer, because contents are under pressure.
The countdown starts it is 14 months to the 2006 reunion. Still watiting for your comments about a Beach reunion?

Hi all. I ran into Mike Santa Maria at a charity event here in Dallas. He is the pro-bono attorney for the North Texas Food Bank. He's the same ole Santa.

Maroney: Yes, the Tuna is staying at least for 1 more year, hopefully longer. Dallas just signed Drew Bledsoe this week so it looks like they want to win it all now and not 5-6 years down the road. Tell Barret the Eagles should have a let down so don't expect a quick return to a Super Bowl.
The Patriots are loosing too many coaches players so it's anyones guess for next year.
My expertise is not with Pulque, thank goodness!

Dwight: Dude, it's not like a drive around with 5 gallons of Tequila, actually, I only have one sealed Tequila bottle in my car at all times, just in case the right party happens. The 5 gallons deal is just to have inventory at home in case something terrible happens. For instance, back in 1999 my wife and I were watching on the news about everyone stockpilling food and water for Y2K. We discussed it and bought 5 cases of champagne, just in case. Cheers!

Ramon: Your the only one who for sure knows how Pulque is fermented. Un curadito de tamarindo por favor! Do they still sell the pulque in a can?

Alex Loya. Did you happen to catch the special on television about the flag raising on Mount Sarabachi on Iwo Jima? It was amazing.
Quien sabe como se fermenta el pulque? He oido varios cuentos pero no se si son verdaderos.
Dominic. Is the Tuna going to continue at Dallas?

Hell, you never know when you'll break down out in the middle of nowhere and need an emergency 5 gallon water bottle full of primo tequila! :) Dominic, you are my hero amigo! You're the only one I know who would do something as cool as that.

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Dwight: I currently have a 2 gallon oak barrell but really need a 7 gallon one. I was able to sneak into the US one of those 5 gal? water bottles full of some primo tequila I got down in Arandas Jalisco. I just refilled my two gallon barrell in January after we empltied it over New Years. The problem is it really takes several month to acquire that woody (HELL,I rather sip this stuff that shoot it)flavour. Bottled tequila is fine but doing my own aging is great, you can really taste the difference as the months go by.

Jerry, I'm here in Cincinnati, Ohio and have lived here now for the past 19 years. Married and have a great wife Angie and 2 daughters, Chelsea 16 and Elizabeth 13. Gosh, to think back when I turned 16, on my birthday I was on a plane heading to Mexico City!

After college I started landscaping, then switched careers as a biomedical research lab technician. Went back to college for graduate work in computer science (which I haven't completed) and currently work for CDC/NIOSH as a lab/computer freak designing software and lab systems in support of safety research.

Dominic, I wonder if it's because beer needs carbonation and the plastic coated mylar might not be good enough to hold the carbonation? Also, booze with higher alcohol content might react with the PVA or other linings. Hey, I still need to look into your request for used bourbon or whiskey oak barrels for tequila aging. They must have smaller ones that can be purchased from Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. There's a Jim Beam plant in Cincinnati. I'll call them and ask them about getting used barrels.

Just a quick note to correct some inforkation I shared with you in my last email (just in case somebody is paying attention). The information about deployments I was told by an Army Civil Affairs Sargeant a few days ago which I shared with you in my last emai is pre 9/11. I was talking to my recruiter just a little bit ago and he informed me that new legislation has made it possible, because of the war, for soldiers to be able to be deployed up to 2 years for one mission, usually, one year will be spent in theatre, like Iraq, and one year in the US training, which means you don't have to be away from your family for the actual two year deployment. The legislation makes it possible but it is not mandatory, it is there in case it is necessary. Anyway, I just wanted to correct that, I want to be a reliable source.

Jerry: It would be very good to see you next year at the 2006 reunion. If you are ever in Austin, Tx let me know.

Ramon: Is wine the only liquor to come in a box? why not beer or other spirits?

Hey Mike! Good to see you again! Alex, John, I have wrestled with the question you guys are asking all along. In fact, last night I went searching through this chat for the time I shared with you guys why I believe it is God who has called me to the military ministry, I printed what I told you guys out, and I read it and re read it, and I have no doubt at all the Lord called me. In it I had shared that when the Lord first called me I had sent my DD214, discharge papers from the Marines, to the Chaplain Recruiter to look over. When I called him to see if he had gotten my papers, he said yes and then he said that my RE Code from the Marines, which was an RE-4 which means you can never reenlist in any branch of the Armed Forces, was non waiverable. I said "what do you mean?" He said, "You can't waiver it, you can't get in" At that I said, "Well, I guess that is good because then the only way I will get in is if God really does want me in" He said, "Yeah, only if God wants you in, because it is non waiverable." ...

To make a long story short, here I am going in, only by God's will (The Marines had given me the RE-4 by mistake, they had refused to correct it, but the Board for Correction of Naval Records directed them to correct it) I am going in knowing it is what God has called me to do, He knows I have a family, He gave me my family, I trust that God's biddings are His enablings. I know many of you do not understand and do not identify, but God is very real and if it is He that calls me, He will take care of my family, I need to trust Him, " The fear of the Lord brings security to a man and his family". And also remember that in a twenty year career in the Army you can only be deployed a maximum of two years. In time of war you may be deployed a year, but the two years are spread through twenty years, in other words, other than that one year deployment, unless you volunteer, a soldier will spend most of his time in the Army at home. YOur family comes with you wherever you go, except a few places like Iraq or Korea, but they come with you and they live on base with you. Recently some soldiers have had their deployments extended to 18 months, when they come back, that means that they will only have six more months obligation of deployment in twenty years. Chaplain (Col) Kenneth Carpenter who first interviewed me when I went to Fort Polk to preach told me that in his 30 year career he had never been deployed away from his family, he had been all over the world, but his family came with him. Of course, his is the exeption, I have talked to several career chaplains, combat chaplains, and they all concured that in twenty years you will spend a total of about 2 years away from your family, spread through the twenty years, generally spending one of those two years deployed away from home at one time. I just pray that the Lord will not have me deployed that long until my children are older. If I ma, however, I am grateful that being deployed today is not like being deployed 20 years ago, I know of a soldier who got himself a laptop computer with a camera, got a camera for his computer at home, and although he is in Iraq, he is able to see his children and his children see him and talk to him often. Depending on the security situation, I very well may be able to do that, I pray I will, so that even if I am deployed to Iraq I could still see my children and they could see me and I could read them a bed time story every night. Alex, my family definately comes ahead of my religion, but not ahead of God. My wife is very supportive of me, if you remember, when God called me He also called her, maybe I'll run my call through you guys again for you all to see why I believe it is God who is calling me. Some of you will think all those little things that happened are just coincidences, but I know the Lord, and I recognize HIs call. Mike, if it is God's will that I shoudl be an Army Chaplain, He will take care of my family... I believe it is a great honor to be a soldier! And our Armed Forces make sure military families have the best of everything. Whenever I hear people complain I just think they are a bunch of spoiled little brats, the truth is that the Army and the Marines make it as comfortable as possible for the families of service men and women, on base you have health clubs, movie theatres, bowling alleys, McDonalds, churches, medical services, green areas, play grounds, fishing ponds, golf courses, I mean everything! You have all kinds of organizations, when you are deployed, the women and the children have many activities together to help time go by quicker, Women of the Chapel, Boy Scouts, sports, military families can have a blast in the Army! I love it, man! To tell you the truth, I can't even understand how any man would not want to be a soldier! And it is sometimes safer for an American soldier to live in Iraq than for an American civilian to live in New Orleans, 55,000 Americans died in hte last year in car accidents, 1000 Americans died in combat. Fear is not a factor for me, trust is. In closing in the movie The Patriot, when Mel Gibson said he couldn't fight because he was a father, his friend reminded him that wars are not just fought and won by childless men. You all tell me your prayers are with me and my family, then trust, my friends, trust that God does hear and answer prayer!

Loya: As much as I love this country, I would have a hard time leaving the family. I respect your decision, but hope your family comes first ahead of your religion. Saludos mi buen!

Jerry: Question for you? Did you ever have problems on your skin after the horrible sun burn you got in Acapulco? That Acapulco trip will always be a classic. I live in Phoenix AZ so if you are ever in this neck of the woods, please let me know. Saludos

Alex Loya. I'm with Mike on this one. What about your kids? I understand about loyalty to the Corps but what about family? This being said I wish you all the luck in the world.

I'm baaack.
Alex: I greatly respect your decision to serve God and country, but don't you have kids who will miss their father when you are out serving the troops? How is it God's will for them not to have you around? I'm curious what you and your family's thinking was in that respect. In any case, our prayers are with you and your loved ones.

I believe everything happens for a reason; so Alex, you are either going their to kick but or evangelize, probably kick but evangelizing, God bless and be safe. Faith is critically important to my daily life, more so now then ever, so it is hard for me to pick at you on religious grounds, despite my instincts. I am a lot like the eunich in the harem, I can only watch now with curiosity. I admire your tenacity Alex. If I find my balls, I will join you in your efforts.

Dominic, I have four great kids so life is a blur. I have also been a lawyer practicing throughout the midwest and occassionaly other states, most all basically US domestic, usually representing companies,for what will soon be 17 years. I have capitalized on a well developed knack for annoying people to the benefit of my clients (ie. got protested for representing a Fortune 50 by a fringe group of Latinos some years back, etc.) I focus my practice on litigation with some public relations work and general business. I owe my sticky career in part to the two guys that jumped me at AHS my senior year; they helped make me the *&!@ I am today! I really enjoy dropping into this chat. I feel like I am at lunch break at AHS. I would like to hear where you guys all are and what your doing so let me know. AHS 2006 is sounding good.

Oh, Homero, gracias! Buen consejo lo del duck! Me recuerda lo que nos decian en los Marines that in Vietnam there were more black Marines killed than white Marines because every time the Vietcong or North Vietnamese would start shooting, someone would shout "Get down!", and the black Marines would start dancing!

Dominic: Gotta do it, man! Like they say, once a Marine always a Marine! I guess Clint can vouch for this, I remember when I first joined the Marines he told me to be careful cause all it takes is one bullet. So he went back in, huh? When? Do you know? It would be great if I bumped into him in Afghanistan! It will be a while before I am deployed though, I am not volunteering for any deployment, I am leaving my volunteering to the will of God, but I am seeking to join an infantry unit, mechanized, armor or light infantry, although today I was talking to some Army people, and they say they have a need in the Special Forces, Civil Affairs and Psy Ops... After talking to them and reviewing the info they emailed me I am leaning heavily towards that, I feel maybe the Lord is leading me to serve that type of unit... we'll see... I would love to go airborne!... stuff? What stuff?

Loya: Dude, wow, you really gone to do this eh? Pues mucha suerte maestro. If you see Osama please just kill him and don't try to evangelize or convert him. Clint Odor (Clayton's bro) is somewhere in Afghanistan, si lo ves me lo saludas. One last thing, you think you can mail us stuff? Just to see if its as good as they claim.

Jerry: Good to hear from you, really long time. What's up?

How is the 2006 Reunion going? where is it going to be? any news? Please don't do it Bagdad to acomodate Alex. On second thought, I heard there plenty so pretty huge blast going on there. It might be a real blow-out!

loya, si eso es lo que tu quieres hacer pues no tengo mas
que decir que te deseo lo mejor. felicidades.

Recuerda que si alguien grita DUCK no es para que te asomes
a ver los patos. Agachate.


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Thank you! thank you! thank you all!

John M.: keep us safe?! Canada is next buddy! :)

Tocayo, I think that at this point more than "Give me 20 son!" It'll be like "Do you think you can give me 5? Be careful now, pops, don't hurt yourself!"

Dwight, it sounds like a good book, I'll have to check it out some time! You are right about never being too old to serve the Lord, the Army Chaplain slogan is "Pro Deo et Patria" "For God and Country", and it is the Lord who has called me to serve in this capacity, I don't know if I shared with ya'll an experience I had after the ones I shared with you guys when I first told you I was thinking about the Army, but 20 years ago or so when I joined the Marines I was at the MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) in San Antonio just sitting there waiting to be shipped out. As I sat there, with legs and arms crossed, out of nowhere some young guy with curly hair approached me and handed me a little green Gideon's Bible. I uncrossed my arms and took the little Bible. Although I didn't know the Lord back then, I took that as a sign that God was with me in my decision to join the military. Twenty something years later a few months ago I was at the MEPS in New Orleans, the last of several times I had to go there, just sitting there with my legs and arms crossed, when out of nowhere a man approached me and handed me a little green Gideon's Bible, exactly like the one the young man had handed me over twenty years ago while sitting exactly the same way at the MEPS in San Antonio! Exactly like I did twenty years ago, I uncrossed my arms and took the little Bible!... With the many other things that happened to convince me, if I should find myself in the midst of combat I can confidently say "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me!"

Alex, I guess that shows you you're never to old to serve God. Congratulations my friend, I now that is something you've wanted to do and are passionate about.

Hey, have you read the book Angels and Demons by Dan Brown. It's the one he wrote before the Da Vinci Code. I think you'll like Angels and Demons cause it talks a lot about science, religion, and the Vatican. I'll quote one paragraph that I'm sure you'll like:

"Who is this God science? Who is the God who offers his people power but no moral framewrk to tell you how to use that power? What kind of God gives a child fire but does not warn the child of its dangers? The language of science comes with no signposts about good and bad. Science textbooks tell us how to create a nuclear reaction, and yet they contain no chapter asking us if it is a good or bad idea."

Anyway, get the book and read it. It's fiction, but has a bunch of Christian symbology and science that is based on fact.

Alex Loya. Keep us safe. Felicidades.

Muchas Felicidades Alex. Espero te vaya muy bien 1st LT. Loya. By the way while your at it, GIVE US 20 son!

CONGRATS LOYA! ITZ.





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Right on time just before my 42nd birthday, today I got a phone call "Welcome to the U.S. Army!" I will be commissioned a first lieutenant before my birthday April 22, and June 1st I'm off to Fort Jackson, South Carolina! Praise the Lord! I feel like I am a fish jumping back in the water!... of course, they picked me up for Reserve duty cause I'm so old, but hey! At least I'm in! And come September I may transfer into Active Duty!... I will probably be the oldest 1st Lt. in the Army, but I believe six months later I will be promoted to Captain automatically, we'll see what happens...
I'm in the Army now!

I have seen the light my brothers and sisters! Oh, shit, I just burned myself from that friggin' cherry!!!

TOQUE Y ROLL

Some real life situations:
 
1. WILL THE REAL DUMMY PLEASE STAND UP? AT&T fired President John Walter after nine months, saying he lacked intellectual leadership. He received a $26 million severance package. Perhaps it's not Walter who's lacking intelligence.



2. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM OUR FRIENDS: Police in Oakland, CA spent two hours attempting to subdue a gunman who had barricaded himself inside his home. After firing ten tear gas canisters, officers discovered that the man was standing beside them in the police line, shouting, "Please come out and give yourself up."




3. WHAT WAS PLAN B??? An! Illinois man, pretending to have a gun, kidnapped a motorist and forced him to drive to two different automated teller machines, wherein the kidnapper proceeded to withdraw money from his own bank accounts.



4. THE GETAWAY! A man walked into a Topeka, Kansas Kwik Stop and asked for all the money in the cash drawer. Apparently, the take was too small, so he tied up the store clerk and worked the counter himself for three hours until police showed up and grabbed him.



5. DID I SAY THAT??? Police in Los Angeles had good luck with a robbery suspect who just couldn't control himself during a lineup. When detectives asked each man in the lineup to repeat the words: "Give me all your money or I'll shoot", the man shouted, "that's not what I said!".


6. ARE WE COMMUNICATING??? A man spoke frantically into the phone: "My wife is pregnant and her contractions are only two minutes apart". "Is this her first child?" the doctor asked. "No!" the man shouted, "This is her husband!"





7. NOT THE SHARPEST TOOL IN THE SHED! In Modesto, CA, Steven Richard King was arrested for trying to hold up a Bank of America branch without a weapon. King used a thumb and a finger to simulate a gun... Unfortunately, he failed to keep his hand in his pocket. (hellooooooo)!



8. THE GRAND FINALE!!! Last summer, down on Lake Isabella, located in the high desert, an hour east of Bakersfield, CA, some folks, new to boating, were having a problem. No matter how hard they tried, they couldn't get their brand new 22 foot boat, going. It was very sluggish in almost every maneuver, no matter how much power they applied. After about an hour of trying to make it go, they putted into a nearby marina, thinking someone there may be able to tell them what was wrong. A thorough topside check revealed everything in perfect working condition. The engine ran fine, the out-drive went up and down, and the propeller was the correct size and pitch. So, one of the marina guys jumped in the water to check underneath. He came up choking on water, he was laughing so hard.
Under the boat, still strapped securely in place, was the trailer!



Jerry, good to hear from you! The answer to your question is a resounding NO! All I get here when I try is kicked, punched and slapped upside the head until I go yiping back to my corner yipe yipe yipe!

Dwight, Dominic, Alex, et al., I haven't dropped into this site in a while. A year seems like a month to me now. I hope all is well. I am glad to see problems like these tackled head on. Alex have you succesfully evangelized anyone on this page other than Dominic? Peace.

Dominic, U R 8 Up amigo! :)

Hey, you've heard about playing records back and hearing Satanic messages, so what do you hear when you play a country music album backwards?

You get the wife back, the farm, and the pickup truck.

A Collection of Jokes to Offend Everyone

 

What's the best form of birth control after 50?
Nudity

 

What's the difference between a girlfriend and a wife?
45 lbs.

 

What's the difference between a boyfriend and a husband?
45 minutes.
 

Why is it so hard to find men who are caring, kind, and good looking?
Because those men already have boyfriends.


 What's the difference between a new husband and a new dog?
After a year, the dog is still excited to see you.


What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?
 The same urge that makes dogs chase
cars they have no intention of driving.


What do you call a smart blonde?
 A golden retriever.

What has a whole bunch of little balls and screws old ladies?
 Bingo machine.
 

What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?
A porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

Why did God create alcohol?
So ugly people could have sex, too.

What did the blonde say when she found out she was pregnant?
"Are you sure it's mine?"
 


What's the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?
Beer Nuts are $1, and Deer Nuts are always under a buck.

 Why does Mike Tyson cry during sex?
 Mace will do that to you.

 What's the difference between a Northern fairytale
 and a Southern fairytale?
 A Northern fairytale begins "Once upon a time."
A Southern fairytale begins "Y'all ain't gonna believe this crap."

Loya. That was a good one.

Dwight: Wow, man! Awesome! I really appreciated reading all that info on Buddhism, it reallly is great! I think Buddha must have been reading the Bible! It really is amazing how similar the teachings are!... And considering that Buddha probably didn't read the Bible, and Jesus didn't actually go to Tibet as some erroneously think, how do these two independent religious traditions come to such amazingly similar teachings?... think about it... how? It seeems to me that although I believe Jesus claim that He is the one and only way to God, it is evident that these two traditions reveal that there is a common source of truth, all truth is God's truth, and they reveal a glimpse into the unseen realm, that indeed it is real, and, certainly, the fact that these two independent religious traditions have such similar teachings underscores the Biblical claim that God has revealed to every man His Law in their hearts, and because of this, all people are without excuse, and we are all, therefore, accountable to God, and guilty of breaking that Law written in our hearts at some point or another which is why we need a Savior... Wow! Dwight, thanks, man! I appreciate it!

By the way, you guys need to read what the info Dwight shared says about a good and a bad friend, a party animal who encourages others to party is not a good friend, according to the Buddhism Dwight shared... that's pretty harsh considering our little crowd here!

John M.: About Gay marriage... I believe God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!


Mr. President, don't worry sir, although I can't tell a joke to save my life (in Bible College they actually told jokes about how I couldn't tell a joke!) I LOL here all the time!

Edited by author 02-13-2005 08:55 AM
Dominic. Too cold for Bronco Burgers. We had to get special machinery in to dig a huge hole. Luckily the frost line was not too deep this year.Had it been any colder we would have had to leave her outside till spring. That would have been charming. I would have had the Canadian equivalent of Las Momias de Guanajuato in my backyard.
Barrett loves the Tuna but thinks the Cowboys are wimps. He would be thrilled to receive a shirt. Gracias.
As for gay marriage? I am just trying to open up a can of worms to entice the conservative right.

Maroney: Forgot, sorry about your horse. What do you do with a dead horse? Bronco-Burgers?

John Maroney:
Taos is northern New Mexico, lots of snow and beer.
Tell your son Barret I am sorry about his Eagles but the Patriots are a Dinasty. The Eagles did play very well but that is no consolation as moral victories are only for fools.Tell him I will send him a Cowboys shirt so he can get his life in the right track before it's too late.I know he still young, but you might have to really explain some math to him. The Eagles have never won a Super Bowl in 39 years, that has to be tough on any Eagles fan.The Cowboys have played 8 and won 5 in that same time span, you do the numbers.
On gay marriage, I know Loya will be against it. Ive seen some really hot lesbians getting it on and I can see why they would go for it. Fortunately, I haven't seen any butchy type lesbians doing it and totally be disgusted by it. As far as fudge-boys go, its a good thing for single guys as it leaves more available chicks for the straight ones. When it's all said and done, who gives a sh...

Saludos
Dominic

Dominic. Where is Taos? My son was very disappointed that the Eagles lost last Sunday. He was wearing his full NFL licenced uniform. He looked cool. He keeps asking about you. As for the actual game I did not get to see it. My oldest horse went into cardiac arrest so we had to put her down. Luckily I know the vet so he did not mind coming out on Superbowl Sunday. Que pinche.
Loya. Where do you stand on gay marriage?

Hey Dwight: I am in Taos this week and "Lord and behold" on my way to the slopes I notice a huge Buddhist center. You guys are everywhere!

President BUSH, I'm sorry that I don't like DICK Cheney as much as you do. I trust you've been busy lately with the news about North Korea stating they have nukes ready. Oh, and make sure Condy squelches that chitter chatter about that memo that mentions the 52 warnings FAA gave pre 9/11. I thought I bought off the liberal media with my No Child Left Behind to attend college while they fight my war act.

Dwight: Frankly, I find your religion boring and uncool. I shall speak with Rumsfeld and Cheney so that your religion is liberated. Unless ther are some campaign contributions I don't know about.

Alex, I am not Buddhist, but you may be interested to know that eastern religions like Buddhism offer many moral similarities to western religions. Compare the precepts of the Pancha Sila and the 10 Commandments and you'll notice they both teach not to kill, commit adultery, steal, and lie.

Pres BUSH, unfortunately you must tell Mayahuel (the Goddess you worshipped in your previous life) that drinking and taking drugs have no place in a Buddhist's life. The fifth moral precept of Pancha Sila states we must avoid alcohol and drugs which diminish clarity of consciousness.

http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/buddhamorals.html

Budweiser: Bush will be liberated by the Chinese New Year, which starts today, the year of the COCK!

Alex Loya: Even I thought it was a funny joke. What's wrong with you?,no sense of humor? Don't forget, we will liberate Iran and Syria and even some day liberate the opressed people of the USA.

Dwight: Mayahuel wants to know if buddist drink or do opium to achieve Nirvana?. If they don't maybe they should be liberated by Bush.

Budweiser: Do you want to be liberated by Bush or Coors?

Of course... it wouldn't be the 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq who are now happy they have been set free.

Mayahuel, now I feel left out!

Dwight, you are a Buddhist?

Today is Nirvana Day
February 8th, 2005
 
Nirvana Day is an annual Buddhist festival. It is also known as Parinirvana and is celebrated by some Buddhists on February 15th. Nirvana Day is the celebration of Buddha's death when he reached total Nirvana, at the age of 80.
 
On Nirvana Day, Buddhists think about their lives and how they can work towards gaining the perfect peace of Nirvana. Nirvana is believed to be the end of rebirth and is the ultimate aim of Buddhism. It is reached when all want and suffering is gone.
 
Buddhists celebrate Nirvana by meditating or by going to Buddhist temples or monasteries. Celebrations vary throughout the world. In monasteries Nirvana Day is treated as a social occasion. Food is prepared and some people bring presents such as money, household goods or clothes. Some Buddhists will read passages from The Paranibbana Sutta which describes the last days of Buddha, while others may reflect on those who have recently passed away.

So true...Men Never Listen


      As a visitor at a hospital, a gentleman had made several attempts to get
into the men's restroom, but it had always been occupied. A nurse noticed
his predicament.

       Sir, she said," You may use the ladies room if you promise not to
touch any of the buttons on the wall."

       He did what he needed to, and as he sat there he noticed the buttons
he had promised not to touch. Each button was identified by letters: WW,
WA, PP, and a red one labeled ATR. Who would know if he touched them?

       He couldn't resist.. He pushed WW. Warm water was sprayed gently
upon his bottom. What a nice feeling, he thought. Men's restrooms don't have
nice things like this.

       Anticipating greater pleasure, he pushed the WA button. Warm air
replaced the warm water, gently drying his underside.

       When this stopped, he pushed the PP button. A large powder puff
caressed his bottom adding a fragile scent of spring flowers to this
unbelievable pleasure.. The ladies restroom was more than a restroom, it is
tender loving pleasure.

       When the powder puff completed its pleasure, he couldn't wait to
push the ATR button which he knew would be supreme ecstasy.

       Next thing he knew he opened his eyes, he was in a hospital bed, and
a nurse was staring down at him.

       "What happened?" he exclaimed. The last thing I remember was pushing
the ATR button.

       "The button marked ATR is an Automatic Tampon Remover. Your penis is
under your pillow."
 
Men Never Listen...

i think it would be more than 56 million happy people... mucho mucho more
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Couldn't help sharing this one. Made me chuckle...
Caution: Anti-bush joke follows...


The President, the First Lady and Dick Cheney are flying on Air Force One.

George looks at Laura, chuckles and says, "You know, I could throw a $1,000 bill out the window right now and make somebody very happy."

Laura shrugs her shoulders and says, "Well, I could throw ten $100 bills out the window and make 10 people very happy."

Cheney says, "Of course then, I could throw one-hundred $10 bills out the window and make a hundred people very happy."

The pilot rolls his eyes, looks at all of them and says to his co-pilot, "Such big shots back there..... hell, I could throw all of them out the window and make 56 million people very happy."

I just found this group for Latinas and thought I'd share: Las comadres para las Americas connecting Latinas all over the world! http://www.lascomadre.org; nora@comconn.com 512-928-8780 voice/fax; 512-751-7837c

Hey Mayahuel: thanxs for the standing me up. On the subject of wine drinking I would suggest, as I did for my son Dionisius to stick to clear spirits. Here is a great bit of news, Sotol an Agave based spirit from Chihuahua and Mezcal from Oaxaca, both have received recognition form the EU as denbomintaions of orign, as well as Tequila which got it in 1997.
Please do not dare, take in moderation

Dwight: Thanks for the research (I thought you'd be able to explain it). Guess I shouldn't be too concerned then about the plastic.

Elena: I'm jealous. I haven't invested in one of those (or it's smaller version normally found at Home Depot or Sam's) though I have been tempted. I just don't keep the bottles around long enough (though this past Thanksgiving we finally polished a 97 muscat which was our oldest <g>). Every couple of years we make the Sonoma/Napa trek and bring a couple of assorted cases back, but they do not last long. Every time we do, we always find an occasion to bring out the good stuff and drink it.

The boxed stuff is just getting around to our local stores and I was curious. Did finally finish the first box, and as I said, it was nice to have the taste last as long as it did. I, like you, did miss the celebratory uncorking at dinner time and the passing of the bottle around the table. I'll keep to the bottle for those occasions.

Homero: I use my decanter quite often, but normally for some of the more rustic wines in order to let the sediment settle. Somehow, I didn't want to do that with the boxed wine (and I wanted to keep it chilled in the fridge). It was easier to pour just a couple of glasses with dinner or as an appetizer without requiring the decanter cleanup. It worked out just fine, but thanks for the suggestion. If I decide to serve boxed wine while entertaining, I think it would be appropriate to serve it from the decanter.

Godess Mayahuel: Do you and Baccus ever get together???

Goddess Mayahuel. In the future please write your messages in Nahuatl. I do not want anything lost in translation.
Does anyone remember Palanquetas Mafer?

Oh blessed Mayahuel! I must pray to thee and give thanks each Sunday morning to thy holy house of porcelin worship. May you forgive my sins of abstenence during the week as I confess each weekend. I only hope that 4 Bloody Mary's and 5 shots of Patron from your swollen teets will wash away my sins!

What does the word Tequila mean?

It is the name of a valley in the state of Jalisco where the drink has been produced for centuries. It is also the name of a mountain and of the town where several distelleries are based.
The Nahuatl origin of the name (tequitl, job or trade; and tlan, place) signifies a place of work and also a specific task of harvesting plants.
The word tequio refers to the labor of peasents.

Loya: Just for calling me non existent goddess you can forget about those 400 darlings!

Ramon: Do they sell tequila in a box yet?

Hold on mayahuel, you many boobied non existent goddess! You are passing judgement on me, I thought you are not supposed to do that!

One cool god:
Mayahuel is the symbol of the earth's fertility. When she was tranformed into a maguey plant, she bestowed on "Mexica" men the gifts required for survival. She is also the mother of 400 rabbits, or Centzon Totochitin, the 400 gods of drunkeness. The Goddess had 400 breast to nourish her children (way to go!). Tequila, Mezcal, Aguadulce and Pulque drinkers all over the world recognize Mayahuel as the true & only Goddess. After several shots or margaritas, Mayahuel appears naked with her Quehquemitl blouse and skirt that are made of tequila and adorned with shells.Her skirt is made of maguey and blue agaves leaves. She has no comandments but does have a bible book whose tittle will be kept secret so that Loya and his buddies don't go buy them all and burn them in one of those "Satanistic" book burnings as they did with albums of our beloved AC/DC or Ozzy Osbourne.

If it makes you feel better you can always pour the wine from the box into a fine crystal decanter before drinking it...


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John - we're definately fond of the bottle. Afterall, not a single box fits into our 54-bottle, 2-temperature-zone, Sub-Zero wine fridge. This is standard issue equipment when you marry a man whose entire family lives in Sonoma County.

Dwight: I don't know if Jesus would drink wine from a bag in a box, but He did turn water into wine! (I think by alteration of protons)

Elena: Well then, if that's the case... arrf! arrf! grrr! bark!

John, from what I've researched so far, the bags used in wine boxes are made from mylar coated with ethylene vinyl acetate (EVA). EVA copolymers used to make mouth guards, ice bags, frozen food bags, and other seals layers for food. For ingestion, there are no effects or toxicity listed by IARC, NTP, or OSHA. The LD/50 in rats is greater than 2500mg/kg so for a person weighing 175 pounds you'd have to eat over 7 ounces of the stuff. Vinyl acetate is one of the decomposition products which is an animal carcinogen and a possible human carcinogen. You'd have to burn the stuff to get exposure to that. NIOSH recommends using a respirator when handling EVA in powder or molten states. I wouldn't worry about drinking wine from a bag in a box. Also, if you're going to drink it up in a few months before you open it, it's repored to taste fine. After it's open, I read the flavor can be good for 4 weeks.

The real question is would Jesus drink wine from a bag in a box?

Damn! That's friggin' awesome. FIFA World Cup fans are the holiest of all fans.

And to think how disappointed Jesus must've been when Billy Graham only sold 134,254 tickets to his Crusade at the LA Coliseum.

Don't be left out! See u in Germany 2006

Some 70,000 football fans around the world applied for no less than 500,000 match tickets in the first 16 hours after tickets went on sale through www.FIFAworldcup.com. Tickets sales for the 2006 FIFA World Cup™ commenced at midnight on 1 February 2005, triggering an anticipated stampede.
"The orders came flying in as soon as the starting whistle went at midnight. Fortunately, our technical system withstood the initial stampede and proved its reliability. We have achieved our objective of avoiding excessive pressure in the initial phase," claimed Horst R. Schmidt, who is responsible for ticketing among other matters in his role as senior vice-president of the 2006 FIFA World Cup Organising Committee.

Fans from the host country have proven the early pace-setters in the race for the 812,000 tickets available in the first phase of sales: 84% of the orders in the first twelve hours came from Germany. However, the 18th FIFA World Cup has already demonstrated its enormous global appeal. Orders from a total of 108 countries were recorded on the computers of the FIFA World Cup Ticketing Center, from nations as far and wide as Macao and Burkina Faso.

Applications have flooded in at an incredible pace since the bustling nocturnal start. Ticket requests in Europe were averaging 40,000 enquiries per hour between the start of work and midday.

The first phase of sales ends on 31 March 2005 at midnight. "Now we can watch the remaining sales period unfold in peace. I stress that all regular ticket applications we process in the first sales period have the same chance of success, irrespective of when they are received," insisted Horst R. Schmidt.

En algun lugar de nuestro Mexico...

El presidente municipal recibe un telegrama urgente del Gobernador que dice:

...Movimiento telurico trepidatorio detectado en su zona.
Localizar epicentro e informar condiciones de flora y fauna....

Varias semanas despues llega la respuesta del presidente municipal...
...Epicentro... localizado, confeso y preso...
Telurico... muerto...
Trepidatorio... y otros 15 cabrones se dieron a la fuga, pero,
los seguimos de cerca...
A Flora y Fauna... las corrimos del pueblo por guilas....

No habiamos podido dar informes antes porque hubo un temblor de la fregada!!, de ahi en fuera, sin novedad....

John:
See that is one of the disadvantages of the Box, if you love plastic so much might as well start eating plastic fruits. As you know Glass is recyclable, do not know about boxes?
As a synthetic cork advocate, this is where I will draw the line. One of the problems of Cork for the industry is that not only it is a limited resource, but natural cork is responsible for about a 10% (Merma?)losses in all wine production, therefore synthetic brings it down to about 0.1%. Try to find Argentinean Boxed wine, they have done a great job in quality terms.

Elena - I too cannot shy away from the bottle. This weekend I found yet more gadgets to use (filters, rings, funnels) so I will not be dropping the bottle completely anytime soon. However, for table/everyday use, the boxed wine might suffice (cheaper too).

Dwight, if you're still roaming around, any comment on the PVC outgassing?

Alex - I think rolling on the floor playing with puppies will keep us young.

John - I may understand the logic behind box wines, but my romanticism to the bottle has me hooked.

Elena! And here I thought you would think I was weird for rolling around on the carpet barking and growling at my puppy dog! And here you are doing the same thing!... of course, not that you all don't already think I'm weird... but you know what I'm saying!

Ramon: Box is opened and the drinking has begun. This box holds 3 liters so it will take a while to complete. Normally I share a bottle of wine and polish it off in one sitting. But that's only 750ml and we polish it off because without a lot of extra (but fun) gadgets, normally the wine doesn't taste as good in the following days. Hence why I was wondering if the taste will last longer. But I'm still concerned about the outgassing of PVC due to the plastic container.

Elena: It was a bit clumsy trying to drink from the box. Thanks for the suggestion of using a glass. I'm still having a bit of a problem cramming the box into my wine rack.

Regarding the cork, I wasn't aware of the taste being altered negatively by the cork, unless the cork contained some harmful impurities. I know that the manufacturing of cork has come under scrutiny, hence the alternatives, but I've seen some synthetic corks doing the job so well. From all of your experiences, any suggestions on a good boxed wine I should try?

Let me just repeat the point of # 1, it didn't come out clear, and I don't have an edit button... the point is Jesus must be preminent in your heart, you must love Him more and put Him before your father, your mother, brother, sister etc. even your own life, other wise you can not be His disciple. And how you love Jesus more and put Him first is not a question of competing emotions, it is a question of the will, whose will do you yield to? For example, if you have a girlfriend that you love very much, and she tells you that she wants you to do something you know is not God's will and you do it because you love her, then you are loving her more and you can not be Jesus' disciple. But if no matter how strongly you emotionally love her you tell her no because you love Jesus, then you are "hating" her and loving Jesus more as a true disciple should.

Alright Dwight... You know, I love the way Joe Satriani plays the guitar, I think I would like to teach all of you how to play the guitar like Joe Satriani, of course, the only problem is as much as I have wanted to play the guitar, I have only spent maybe a couple of hours practicing with the guitar in a period of 20 years... do you think I could teach you how to play the guitar like Joe Satriani? That's absurd, huh? Why? Because until I spend the time to master that skill I am not qualified to teach any of you how to play the guitar because all I can make is noise... Dwight, how many hours do you spend in prayer every day? How many hours do you spend studying the Bible every day? How many years have you spent formally studying theology? Do you actually know Jesus? Not do you know about Him, do you know HIm?... you are not qualified to to teach anybody Jesus 101, it is painfully obvious you do not understand one bit of what you are talking about, my friend... let me keep it short and sweet

1. According to Jesus you should love your father and your mother, you should honor them and you should support them in their old age, the Scripture you quote out of context is what is called a hyperbole, it is a style of teaching, of exagerating something to make a point, the point is that to be a true disciple of Christ He must be preeminent in your heart. For Jesus to be preeminent in your heart, the question of who do we love more, our earthly beloved or God is not a question of competing emotions, it is a question of the will, whose will do you yield to? Dwight, to interpret the Bible correctly in a literal way, you must interpret literally in the way in which it was intended. This particular Scripture (Luke 14:26), is intended as a hyperbole and that is the way to interpret it. How do we know it is a hyperbole? Context, context, context... you miss the whole context.

2.Luke 12:47-48 is a teaching on eternal punishment, not on temporal slavery. The teaching is there will be degrees of punishment in hell depending on how much each individual knew. For example, somebody who has lived in a free country where there are many churches and access to many Bibles and Bible Colleges and Christian T.V and music and etc. etc.
somebody who lived in a place like that and who heard many times about Jesus, who had friends tell him on chat rooms etc. etc. and yet refused to repent and believe will be punished in hell with many stripes as opposed to someone in Saudi Arabia who didn't have access to the same level of truth, that individual will be punished with few stripes, each individual is responsible for what they know, and punishment, eternal punishment will be distributed accordingly. In fact, the Bible teaches in Timothy that slave trading is a sin right up there along the murder of parents.

3. Jesus taught His kingdom was not of this world, otherwise His servants would have fought and not allowed Him to be taken prisoner and crucified. When Jesus said He came to bring a sword He is not teaching that His disciples should go and start wars, His kingdom is not of this world, what He is teaching is that our stand regarding Jesus will indeed bring division among people, you will either be riled up for or against Jesus when you hear about Him, you will stand on one side or the other... if you pause for a minute and observe your own heart right now, you will see that this Scripture is being fulfilled in your own heart, you are at war with Jesus and His disciples, that is why you are "teaching" Jesus 101.

Don't look at me, ya'll, I've been saying go back to las chivas rayadas... but the Scripture Dwight juggled out of context is being fulfilled in some of your hearts even as you read this.

So, which is better, drinking beer or watching football?...

Jesus 101

Q. According to Jesus, how should Christian disciples treat their parents?

A. "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

Q. According to Jesus, how should slaves be treated?

A. They should be beaten for disobedience, but not more severely then they deserve.

"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes." (Luke 12:47-48)

Q. What did Jesus say about peace?

A. "Don't think that I came for peace on earth. I came to start wars."
 
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)

"I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division." (Luke 12:49-51)

Jodi - I will be on the planning committee

Alex - no you should not growl at the puppy when playing unless you want him to do that with your children and visitors. I did that with out Shitzu and boy am I sorry.

John - you are not supposed to drink the wine out of the box, but rather out of really good wine glasses. (ha ha) Ramon is right on that it started with the cork. It is a cleaner seal and wine makers want you to taste their product as they wanted it to be, not altered by cork. Same for the box wine, it allows you to keep the taste over time, even if you don't polish it off in one sitting (I wouldn't know how that could happen.)

John: finally a subject with substance, Number 1 please drink the wine, open the Box. It all started with the use of synthetic corks, since there are problems in the production of Cork, and therefore Wineries are looking for options. How long do you intend to drink the wine. more later....

Elena and Jody, thanks! I appreciate it! Hey Elena, you don't mind I printed your message, huh? That's so funny, just a half hour ago my wife told me she read about crate training! As I am typing this my oldest girl, Kirsten, is sleeping on the carpet (with pillows and blankets and all) next to the bathroom where the puppy is sleeping with a little guard fence, just in case she's gotta "go" in the middle of the night. Kirsten is sleeping there so that the puppy won't cry, it is working! Our puppy, Cupcake or Pupcake or something my daughters called her (some name for a Rotweiler Retreiver, huh? My friends gave me a hard enough time when I told them we had called our last dog Boo Boo! Oh, what the boyz and I have to endure with all these girls in the house!), she is a biter, how do you discourage that, just spank her?... about the rough-housing... my wife told me today I shouldn't bare my teeth and growl and bark at Cupcake or Pupcake or whatever when I am rolling around with her on the carpet... I suppose you agree with her, huh? I'm just playing!... I promise!

Dwight, thank the Lord for Jesus' sacrifice, huh?! That because of it we are no longer under the dispensation of God's law but under God's grace!

Loved the list Elena it made me laugh. We all need one of those every once in awhile. So who is going to be on the planning committee for the next reunion? Necessitan ser personas que estan en Mexico? I just got an email from Katie Mitchell Brown she now has 5 yes 5 bambinos. She is keeping up the Mitchell tradition. WE have a black lab puppy. He is 4 months old. Peter Baird suggested a book. I just ordered it. It's called Water Dog. Maybe it would help with your dog Alex.

To change the subject a bit...

I have noticed that California wineries are starting to sell their wine in boxes. Does anyone know why they are moving to this trend? From a science perspective, less oxygen enters the container this way and allows for a longer shelf life once opened, but somehow drinking wine looses some of its appeal (like drinking beer out of an aseptic wax/carboard container). Alas, I bought some Sutter Home White Zin (now don't laugh, I like fruitier wines over the dryer reds and whites as an all around drinking beverage) in a box to try it out. Haven't opened it yet though.

Some questions: Does anyone know why this is now a new trend for the wineries? Does anyone drink box wine and have you noticed a difference in taste from its bottled counterpart? With all of the acids in wine, does it break down the plastic it comes in and leach PVC gasses into the wine? If you do drink boxed wine, what brands and flavors?

in northern coahuila they will have postostis for breakfast instead of con fleys...
(translation: Post Toasties)

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chetos...

i wonder how many of us would have made it through our
childhood...



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Alex - Rotties can be ideal dogs for kids. Very protective. Cindy had one that was an a massive sweetie. Key thing is you have to train your kids and the dog at the same time. The kids have to be taught not to torment him or encourage behaviors such as rough-housing or chewing on hands, clothes. Ensure the dog is on a strict schedule. Ideally, crate train him (you can buy a book or learn about this online. For fabulous info on the breed, just go to the AKC website, or peruse a book at the pet shop. Like having kids, puppies require the ultimate consistency and discipline.

 
WHY LATINOS CAN'T BE TERRORISTS............
1. 8:45 am is too early for us to be up.

2. We are always late, we would have missed all 4 flights.

3. Pretty people on the plane distract us.

4. We would talk loudly and bring attention to ourselves.

5. With food and drinks on the plane, we would forget why we're there.

6. We talk with our hands, therefore we would have to put our weapons down.

7. We would ALL want to fly the plane.

8. We would argue and start a fight in the plane.

9. We can't keep a secret, we would have told everyone a week before doing it.

AND MY FAVORITE.....

10. We would have put our country's flag on the windshield.

ARE YOU A LATINO? HOW CAN YOU TELL FOR SURE?

 1) If you have ever been hit by a "Chancla. "

2) If you grew up scared by something called "El Cucuy. "

3) If others tell you to stop screaming when you are really just talking.

4) If you light a candle to the Virgin Mary on the night before your big test.

5) If you use your chin to point something out.

6) If you constantly refer to cereal as "con fleys."

7) If your mother yells at the top of her lungs to call you for dinner, even if it's a one bedroom apartment.

8) If you can dance merengue, cumbia or salsa without music.

9) If you use "manteca" instead of olive oil and can't figure out why your nalgas are getting bigger.

10) If you are in a five passenger car with seven people in it and a person is shouting "subanse, todavia caben mas!"

11) If whenever you feel under the weather, you compulsively dab on some "Vic's vapor rub" all over your pecho and inside your nostrils.

12) Your mom packs your "lonche" every day even though you've just turned thirty-two.

13) If you call the North Americans "gringos," including Canadians, and call all Asian people "chinos" or "chinitos"and you call the corner store "the chinito's store."

Bible 101

Q. How should parents treat a stubborn and rebellious son?

A. He should be stoned to death.

--This cruelly excessive Mosaic law was actually enforced at one time by the Massachusetts colony and has been used to justify child abuse and murder.
 
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; Then shall his father and mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:17) "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he that cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

Itz, estoy de acuerdo... el "porque" que tal vez nunca podremos resolver!... Lo bueno es que, aunque sea Biblicamente, los niños pequeños son inocentes y cuando mueren en la infancia immediatamente entran a la presencia de el Señor, van directo al cielo como dijo Dominic. Al menos tenemos ese "comfort".

Martin, Ha ha ha! Gusto oir de ti! Aunque medio infantil, pero en fin, gusto oir de ti!

John B. there's no therapist needed here, my friend! In fact, I just went through several psychological examinations for the Army Chaplaincy and I was judged to be free of any nut case malfunction and with "good military bearing able to function in combat under stress"... and until I turn 42 in April they may still call me into active duty.

Elena,(this time really you), I got a question for you: We just got a beutiful little puppy for my kids. When we saw the ad it said the free puppies were black lab, but when my daughter and I got there, the lady told us they were actually half Rotweiler! Should I be concerned? What do you know about Rotweiler's temperament? Do you know if they are good pets for little kids? Also, any tips on potty training puppies?

Alex L., sadly, several of us still remember the incident that Martin is refering to and have thought about how that may have influenced your choices since. However, I would urge you not to bring it up on this forum as it is not worth rehashing. That's between you, your therapist, and your deity.

Martin: Me hiciste reir un buen rato! Saludos

JAJAJA!HOLA MARTIN,LONG TIME!DONDE VIVES? ITZ.





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Alex: NO MAMES. Entonces dios te mando a los policias que te hicieron darles un mameluco en Tecamachalco? Que paso con el libre albedrío? Donde dejas al Diablo?

Sabes la diferencia entre duro y oscuro?

ALEX: CONGRATS, THATS MY MAN ! UN ABRAZOTE AMIGO! AH! Y LO DE LA CONFIANZA, OK, COSAS TERRIBLES PASAN EN LAS VIDAS DE CADA UNO, PERO ESO DE QUE MUERAS NIÑOS COMO EN EL TSUNAMI, TE APUESTO TODO LO QUE QUIERAS QUE HASTA LOS LIDERES ESPIRITUALES DEL MUNDO COMO EL PAPA, EL DALAI, ETC. LO SUFRIERON Y LEVANTARON LA MIRADA AL CIELO PREGUNTANDOLE AL TODO JUSTO Y TODOPODEROSO "PORQUE ELLOS?" NO CREES? SALUDOS AFECTUOSOS, ITZ.




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Itz: Tu humilde punto de vista tiene buen "insight"... cierto, hay veces en las cuales uno siente que el Señor could've done better for me... pero, ahi entra la confianza.
Tu pregunta, ya te recuerdas? Me recuerda de el Billy y yo corriendo del agua del "sprinkler" pretendiendo que era una ametralladora, y me acerdo de el Billy y yo tocando los air drums y air guitar a la musica de Judas Priest...mmmm y me acuerdo de aquellas super malteadas de chocolate con hielo y nueces, que el mugre Billy y yo no hechabamos en su cocina! Deliciosas! I loved my friend, that boy!... I will pray that what I said may not ever happen! God forbid!...
Billy, I'm sorry man, forgive me.

John M. No moral to the story?! What do you mean no moral to the story!!! You had me hanging from a limb!!!.. for crying out loud! (that was hilarious!)

Dominic, you are praying to bacus?!... Oooh buddy! Don't get me started now! I'm telling you, just go back to las chivas rayadas!

Dominic. Barrett was delighted that the Eagles beat up the Falcons. He watched the entire game wearing his full Eagles uniform, helmet included. He tells me that Philly will win the superbowl. I believe him.
To better understand American Religious Experience I recommend Catherine L. Albanese's book Nature Religion in America published by the University of Chicago Press.
Bill Parra. If you are going to be grinding your teeth in the dark I recommend new Aquafresh toothpaste. It does wonders on weak enamel.

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Loya: AMEN! thanks for changing the subject and now we can concentrate on the really important stuff:
Las Chivas Rayadas got smacked 4-0 yesterday, CRUZ AZUL beat los Jaguares de Chiapas 3-1 and have won their first two games of the season.
On the religius side: Bacus (the god of booze) ordained that Mexico get into the MicroBrew frenzy. I highly recomend the beers from CASTA, a Monterrey brewery. There has been new microbrew places opening around and now you can even drink Guiness in el DF.We are praying to god (Bacus that is) we have a sunami of beer in 2005.

Maroney: I know Barret wants the Eagles to win, but as a die hard Cowboys, I would hate to see the Eagles in the Super Bowl. My predition Patriots vs Eagles in the Super Bowl and New England winning it all again, sorry Alex Juarez.

Dwight: Man, you must watch a lot of SNL, even I didn't notice the daily affirmation. You think you Roethlesberg boy can up it off?

Billy: What ever happened to that Rick R guy? I hope he turned out OK, he was sure a little prick in AHS. Best regards to you and Punch.

Girls: Can we assume you are going to put the reunion together? We need to get someone in charge of this soon.

We are digging out from a nasty blizzard. The water in the barn is frozen and our laneway is hip deep in snow. We are waiting for the tractor to plow us out. Moral of the story? None. However, at times like these my mind does wander to sunny hot days in Tepotzlan at the Dudley Estate. Keep warm.
To all. As Rodney King so eloquently stated, "Can't we all just get along?"

AY ALEX,SOY TU AMIGO,LO SABES,HEMOS TENIDO GRANDES PLATICAS EN EL PASADO,LO QUE SIENTO ES QUE ESTE GRUPO DE AMIGOS ESTA QUERIENDOTE DECIR QUE LA NEGLIGENCIA CRI9MINAL DE GOBIERNOS QUE NO LES IMPORTA SU GENTE HAYA SIDO LO QUE PROVOCO TANTAS MUERTES INOCENTES.YO ESTOY HASTA CONTRA EL DEATH PENALTY Y EL ABORTO,PORQUE CREO QUE NADIE,NI EL CRIMINAL MAS SANGUINARIO TIENE QUE CASTIGARSE ASI,LA VIDA ES SAGRADA.LO QUE TU DICES DE LA VOLUNTAD DE DIOS (SOY EL PRESIDENTE DE LA ASOCIACION JUVENIL ECLESIASTICA DE MI PARROQUIA LOCAL,NO SE TANTO COMO TU PERO TENGO SENTIDO COMUN)ES CIERTO,TODO ES VOLUNTAD DE DIOS,NACIMIENTO Y MUERTE,PERO ESO NO DEJA DE HACER SENTIR A UNO9,SER SIMPLE Y TERRENAL,QUE DIOS ES INJUSTO CON LOS MAS NECESITADOS Y QUE EN LA REALIDAD A VECES (Y MUCHAS) SON LOS PODEROSOS IRRESPONSABLES (QUE GRACIAS A DIOS TAMBIEN HAY MUCHOS MUY RESPONSABLES) ES INJUSTO A LOS OJOS HUMANOS, SI HAY UN PLAN DIVINO EN EL QUE ESO NO ES INJUSTO, ESO ES PROBLEMA DE INTERPRETACION DE LAS CUALIDADES DE DIOS (MI SENCILLO PUNTO DE VISTA).TAL VEZ SERIA MEJOR TENER UNA VISION CONCILIADORA Y RECONCILIADORA (CON BILL, POR EJEMPLO) YA QUE RECUERDAS? A VECES EL QUE MENOS SONRIE ES EL QUE MAS NECESITA AMOR, AUNQUE SEA ADULTO! UN ABRAZO Y ME ALEGRA QUE SIGAS AVANZANDO EN PROFUNDIDAD FILOSOFICA EN LA BUSQUEDA Y VIVENCIA DE DIOS! TU AMIGO, IZCALOTL.




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Did I ruffle some feathers?... again?

Parra: Wow! You forgot to add to the list of my "obssesions" how I continued to be your good and faithful friend long after we all had discerned you to be as good a friend as a two dollar bill, which was until today. You didn't have to bring that sweet lady into your prideful and insolent diatribe, but you know no respect. What you call obssession, I call commitment,commitment that is birthed of love. You have always and will always lack both... and unless you repent you will end up alone, in utter darkness grinding your teeth. Frankly, the condition of your soul scares me.

Dwight, if you can't see that God is in control even when a great tragedy strikes and that He can bring some good even from that, what hope do you have? I know He is a He because that is the way He reveales Himself to be in the Bible and the way He chose to live among us in Jesus Christ.

Jody, there is a big difference, the murderer is a conscious moral agent, the ocean is not. As you know, God specifically says in the Bible that He tells the ocean tides "up to here and no more".

John M. excellent thought!

Itz, its good to know! Thanks!

John B. is right, don't ask if you don't want to hear what someone else thinks!... now go back to your chivas rayadas y dos equis!

The contours of the debate on God and earthquakes have not changed much in 250 years. 2005 marks the 250th anniversary since the Lisbon earthquake. The horror then sparked the same responses from figures as theologically distant from one another as John Wesley and Voltaire. Then, as now, their ponderings tell us a lot more about humanity then they do about God. But that is what makes it interesting.
Since we are on the subject of divine intervention, what are the Eagles' chances tomorrow against the Falcons?

Yeah!On my part I still consider myself Loyas friend,hes cool,and I guess friends have the right to tell ourselves to behave better when we should,I mean,thats part of friendship,aint it? Itz.




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Stewart Smiley's daily affirmation :)

Loya, I am too a fanatic here in Philly, don't let them discourage you. I also crave attention to myself by any means, no matter how stupid. Sometimes there might be 70,000 fans booing me and calling me names & stuff. Everyone acts like they hate me but I know I am smart, good looking and god darn it, people like me.

Itz - Claro que si te recuerdo bien. Glad to see you're still punching around...

good one John,remember me? Long time! Itz.





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Dwight, becareful what you ask for. Loya has his own "About God" topic list where you can ask that type of question. Otherwise, you'll get a brain dump from Loya over here...

HOLA BILLY!
QUE GUSTO LEER TUS LINEAS, DONDE ESTAS VIVIENDO, ESTABAS EN FLORIDA NO? SALUDOS Y GRANDES RECUERDOS DE NUESTRA EPOCA DE COMPAS! IZCALOTL.

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Loya, how do you know that God is a He? Blind faith?

Dominic, don't you know by know that Eve ate from the tree of knowledge, therefore robbing Adam and the rest of us cabrones from having an eternal life of fun? Think of how much better life would have been if Adam and Eve would have just remained ignorant and immortal?

What rational human being who prays to a loving God, believes that God controls all aspects of life and the universe, asks for personal favors, forgiveness, and miracles would see any good from unleashing a tsunami? A loving, caring God most certainly would not do such a thing to humanity.

Loya-

Wow, this obsession of yours has lasted for some time. You were always looking for something to direct yourself towards in life. Fitch, bodybuilding, the Marines, then religion. It certainly looks like you are committed to this to the point of, dare I say, fanaticism. It frankly scares me.

Realize that there are other thoughts and ideas of what we are. You should calm down your proselytizing and accept differences in beliefs.

LIBERTY?AS THE EXCELENT FREEDOM OF RELIGION SPEECH BUSH GAVE YESTERDAY? LOYA, PARECES NIÑO MAN! JA!




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We could always schedule the reunion in Phuket and really assist with its economic recovery.... ok, too far. All inclusive sounds good to me too. We tend to go for holiday weekends, however that means the airfares are high. If we plan far enough in advance, then everyone can plan the days off and we can select a weekend where airfares are not artifically inflated by the airlines. Just a thought.

By the way, its not "libery" its "liberty"

Elena, sorry I choked you!... hey, at least I gave you the credit for asking the original question eventhough it was Anaceci who asked! But don't look at me, it was Dominic who asked "que tengo que hacer para ir directo al cielo?"

Hey Dominic! I'm not saying you are bad!... I'm saying we are all bad and when it gets down to it the question is how come He allows us to go on living and sometimes even enjoy life? And the answer is that He loves us, no other reason. God is good, not gacho, and you see His goodness all around, and just because God may ordain natural catastrophe, it does not mean He takes any pleasure in anybody's tragedy, "not a sparrow falls to the ground without your Father" Jesus said, God is not up there wondering what happened, and even when He allowed satan to bring a tornado that killed Job's children, even though satan did it, God took responsability because ultimately He is in control. This tsunami was not out of God's control, He could've prevented it. So why, then, did it happen? Well, we don't know all of God's purposes, but we do know a few things, we know God is good and God is all powerfull, we also know that He controls nature, it doesn't just rain, as the Greeks thought, God sends the rain as the Hebrews by revelation knew. So why the tsunami? It is ordained because the Scripture, the prophecy must be fulfilled, Jesus said these things have to come to pass and when these things begin to come to pass, as they have already begun, you can be in one of two teams, you can be in the one that will go further away from God, or you can be in the one to which Jesus said "When you see these things beginning to come to pass, lift up your eyes for your redemption is drawing near!" ...

Joseph Stalin told Winston Churchill that "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic"... the truth is that each individual death is a tragedy, and it happens every day, but because God is in control and not one sparrow falls without Him, there is hope and there is a purpose, and you and I need to trust when we can't understand. Where is God in all of this? as the song says, "we are His hands, we are His feet"... if you open your eyes you will see God at work in the relief worker who brings food and comfort to those who were devastated by the Tsunami, you will see God at work in the person who gives of what he or she has to those in need, you will see God is close to the broken hearted.

Here is a song I wrote nearly 20 years ago when I was going through one of the most painful times in my life, when my heart was so broken it hurt like a physical wound in my chest and I despaired even of life, but at that point I saw a picture of Jesus on the cross. I wrote this song from that experience that very day:

My appreciation, Lord,
for all the things you've done...
You've created beauty
all around me!
I can see the clear blue sky,
and the lake beyond...
and the rainbow shows
you are thinking of me!...
I can see the valley
filled with flowers
drenched from the dew above!
I can hear the birds are singing
a sweet melody of love!...
Oh, Lord, you've created
beauty all around me!
My appreciation, Lord,
for all the things you've done,
not just all the beauty
that surrounds me.
I can see your blood stained brow
hanging on the cross!...
I just can't believe
all you did for me!
Your sinless hands
were pierced by nails
that should've been
for me!
The soldier's spear
went through your body,Lord,
to purchase my libery!
Oh, Lord, you've created
beauty all around me!...
In appreciation, Lord,
I'll live my life
for you...
that's the smallest
thing that I could do...
and when pain and sorrow
come...
I'll look to the cross!
and be reminded there
that I can trust.
Your sinless hands
were pierced by nails
that should've been for me!
The soldier's spear
went through your body, Lord,
to set the captives free!
Oh, Lord, you've created
beauty all around me!
Yes, Lord, you've created
beauty all around me!
Mm, Lord, you've created
beauty all around me!

Let the girls decide but don't do it during the 2006 Germany World Cup

ILL DOI WHATEVER ANACECI RECOMMENDS. ITZ.





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Hola Cuates,
Man we are having a very interesting theological discussion I see. I am a Christian but I don't believe that God intentionally ordained the death of all the tsunami victims. That's like saying that God gave my father's murderer the gun that killed him or better yet pulled the trigger. God is not evil. Does he use these disasters to call people unto himself most definently. I also see people act as his emisaries just as all of those who are going and rescuing and trying to help the victims. Anyhow that's my two cents worth for now to keep the discussion going


Ana Ceci, Georgina I am with you on the all inclusive thing I think that's what we should shoot for and we should start thinking about planning it. It's never too soon for the next reunion. Guys what's your vote?

DONT WORRY ELENA,CHURCH WILL HAVE TO OIPEN UP TO DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IF NOT ITLL BE INDANGER OF EXTINTION SOONER OR LATER,DID YOU HEAR ABOUT TODAYS MOVE OF THE SPANISH CHURCH? HOPE THEY LISTEN TO PEOPLE (THEM AND ALL THE OTHER POWERS OF THIS WORLD!) CIAO! ITZ.




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Alex - Can you tone down the preaching stuff? I am a very spiritual person but absolutely gag when folks try to cram religious stuff down my throat. Why not start your own chat or blog? I'm all for engergetic discussion, pero ya no?

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Jodi, que mal que estuviste enferma, ojala te encuentres mejor. Me incluyo en la larga lista de Jodi fans.

I also got the Pepino phone call. His dad had been taking care of him all these years, but the old man passed away recently. Now Pepino is living alone, has no work, 200 pesos in his bank account and is asking for help. He needs work.

He's been struggling with the consequences of his accident and all the complexities that have come with it since. "I've been struggling to stay alive for the last 20 years but I'm starting to get tired of it" etc.

He's received help from a lot of people, Josy gave him work, Eddie Rose's sister recently cleaned up his apartment, Anacecilia, Carla Smallwood have helped him, who knows how many others. But again he asks us as he doesn't have many other places to look.

If you know of somebody or some institution who can help him get a job, please call him at +5255 5547 3141 here in DF or email me at alejandromcgrath at yahoo.com.

Loya: Are you sure you stopped smoking the green stuff?

Hear Hear Dominic
I am glad you people are writing with substance I vote for the Sorority God the female ratio would be better.
conspiracy theory:
What if it was not nature that created the tsunami, but the damned french with a new nuclear test in the Bikini Islands, and therefore there was no armed forces in the region who could have saved lives but they were running.
regarding your Frat boy Prsident nice approval rating Holmes, especially with so many found bio and chemical weapons in Iraq.
I vote to have the reunion in Club Med Ixtapa, spent one week there with my familiy last year, our best vacation to date. Maybe except Spring Break Ft. Lauderdale 1983.
http://www.mihotel.net/clubmedixtapa/
http://www.clubmed.com/cgi-bin/clubmed55/
cheers

Edited by author 01-18-2005 07:13 PM
Saint Dominico Christian. You speak words of wisdom my fair sage. I hesitate to involve myself in such deep theological arguments as to the divine role in the tsunami. Why? Because up here in the back woods of Canada we are just a bunch of tree dwelling druids. However, in our defense our higher power is not as gacho as the one being discussed. As always I remain in awe of your intellect.
Atentamente
El Fraile del Tepeyac

Loya. I would rather be Candide than Dr. Pangloss.

I WILL CHERISH YOUR COMMENT TO THE GRAVE OH GREAT DOMINIC!THANKS! ITZ.




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Pues mira, this guy also went to hell... el table no es gratis and the ladies are like calorex waterheaters (the big 60 gallon type) and they're out of booze... they always tell you mañana... so you can't sleep yourself to drunkness and really have to suffer... get it? so like they say in happytree friends cartoons... BE AFRAID

Loya: I don't understand how you twisted all this to be me the bad guy. I do not have the power to kill 300,000 thousand and you are the one who said God ordained it. Do you really believe he would be so "gacho" to kill 300000+ just to teach a lesson? All I said is that in fact, as you stated, god ordained it, we need a different god. Makes sense? right? Uno que sea buena onda.
It's funny how you always include love & punishment together so much, they seem to go hand by hand in your book. Hey, if someone dosen't love you it's ok, someone else will, you don't have to punish them.


Izcalotl:Tu si entiendes la onda

Homero: Search has been suspended, I will just take your friends word for it. Any other friend who's been to hell?

John B. My buddy Bonn Scott has a song called Hell ain't a bad place to be, they even have cold beer.

Anaceci: Gracias por la pregunta, como puedes ver, las opiniones estan divididas.

THANKS ALEX,WOW!





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CAUSE HES ALWAYS BEEN A SAINT,GET IT?LOL!SALUDOS MI BUEN DOMINIC! ITZ.




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ROFL...

Dominic, <chuckle> now why <snort, chuckle> aren't you up in flames yet, eh????

Dominic, contrary to what our buddy Homero says, the Bible does tell you how to ir directo al cielo, it can be summarised in the acronym LIFE:

L- Love: God loves you and created you to have a relationship with you. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life"

I- Isolation: Your sin isolates you from God and destines you to an eternity isolated from God "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" "The wages of sin is death..."

F- Forgiveness: Because God loves you, He sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die in your place and pay the penalty for your sin. On the third day He rose to life again and is alive right now. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your hear that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved"

E- Eternal Life: When you confess your sin, agree with God that you are a sinner and ask for forgiveness, turn away from your sin and confess, agree with God concerning Jesus, His identity as God manifested in the flesh, "The Lord is God" and his position as Lord of your life, "Why do you call me Lord if you don't do the things I tell you?" You most certainly will go directly to heaven "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved"

Its simple, turn away from your unbelief, believe, confess and repent...

The problem is... you refuse to believe in God as He is and would rather believe in a god of your own creation, a Santaclaus god in the sky who rains candy form heaven. You yourself said it, my friend, you want to throw God off... the question is not why did God ordain the death of 300,000 people by natural disaster, the question, rather, is why does God allow 6 billion people who have sinned against Him to continue to live? The question is, Dominic and you all who mock Him, how come your heart did not stop beating as soon as you wrote what you wrote and are not presently in a flame being in torment? That is the real question. And the answer is He loves you "God is not slack concerning his promise (of His return) but is patient towards us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" If we were to throw off the Living God for that little sugar candy god of your imagination, we would all perish. In love, He let you hear of the jugement of the wicked, and the mercy on the innocent, and continue to live so that you by all means would turn to Him, but you refuse to heed the call. I truly hate to see that in you I am seeing fulfilled what the Lord said would happen in the last days "The fifth angel poured out his bowl (of God's wrath)... Men gnawed their tongues in agony and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done" Rev. 16:10-11

I will pray for you, my friends.

Dominic, when has any frat party ended up good for all???? There's always someone who resented it the day after <g>.

Now, I'm up for searching for those lost scrolls. Homero, where do I buy the mushrooms?

JAJAJAJAJA!





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well i don't think you'll find it in your bible... actually this guy who came
back (and he's been acting real funny and smelling worst) told us the answer is
somewhere in the hidden gospels... not the ones already found but on the really
still hidden ones... hope it helps!
If you do go on looking for them I guess some aramaic classes should be handy.
I'll go on and have some tequilas and wait for your call once you dig em out, ok.


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yeah, what's the use of having the lights on if nobody's looking! like the radar operator that thought all the blips on the screen
were seagulls instead of jap zeros

sad thing about this tsunami thing is that there were some folks in observatories in japan, australia and hawaii that got a clear picture that a tsunami
was going to hit based on the intensity of the earthquake but since it was a weekend (worst, holiday weekend) and all their contact info was wrong they couldn't get hold of anybody of responsibility who could order an evacuation. Sure, they wouldn't have been able to save everybody but it would have helped. An example is Kenya where they did do a good job clearing the beaches and low lands and it seems they lost only a couple of folks.

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DOMINIC HAS NOTHING TO DO TO GO TO HEAVEN,HES BEEN THERE ABOUT 40 YEARS NOW!LOL!




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Homero: Ok, con ese mensaje si me puse a buscar mi biblia. me pdorias decir que tengo que hacer para directo al cielo?

Yeah Homero,and do you know the difference between the Titanic and the irresponsible captains of Earths ship? The TITANIC had its lights on,LOL! Itz.




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OK, then we need a frat-god that will never graduate from college. But, wait! we have a frat boy president who fits that same criteria and it's all going to hell. What does this mean? what is the deep inner interpretation of this? Is the future to be managed by frats?

VERY INTERESTING JOHN, I THINK YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,ITS NATURE THING AND ALEXES GOD THING I WOULD SAY ITS NOT PUNISHMENT BUT THE WAY THAT STRONG FORCE WE NAME GOD (WHICH NATURES A PART OF) IS SEEKING EQUILIBRIUM DUE TO OUR IRRESPONSABILITY AS HUMANS TO TAKE CARE OF MOTHER NATURE.I WOULD SAY THAT GOD IS NOT EXACTLY THE WAY WE FEEL HE IS,THERES A WAY TO READ THE BIBLE IN A HERMETIC WAY VERY INTERESTING WHICH TAKES US INSIDE HES UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE MORE CONCISE ABOUT HIS QUALITIES AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE INNOCENT VICTIMS AND THE REAL GUILTY ONES,THE PEOPLE WITH THE POWER TO REACH PEACE AGREEMENTS AND STOP HURTING NATURE,THAT IS PART OF GOD,WITH THE SUBSEQUENT AGRESSION OF THE ABUSE,AND IN SOME OTHER INSTANCES,THE JUST NATURAL EVOLVEMENT OF THIS BLUE MARBLE PLANET OF OURS!(JUST MY POINT OF VIEW OK?) CIAO! ITZ.




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Hey Dominic.
The difference between heaven and here is that over there
el tabledance es gratis y hay barra libre... forever...
I know a guy that came back and told us about it... de veras


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Dominic, for most, it does rain candy on Halloween and there is a party-god that turns the ocean to beer...normally we know it in the guise of a college frat party <g>.

Loya: If god ordained this to happen,we should all put in our power to get rid of him and get a new one that dosen't kill over 100,000 people to teach a lesson. What we need is a cool god that takes care of peoples needs. Or a god with a little sense of humor that would make it rain candy on kids for Halloween or a party-god that would turn the ocean to beer for a a few hours so that all fish life and I can swim.

Anacecilia, regarding your question, I'm trying to figure out what you are really asking. Natural disasters aren't philosofical, they are scientific. However, one can always put a philosophical spin to it.

For example, the earth has been around for millions of years (not only 6,000 as creationists would have you believe) and based on all of the fossil fuel available, the earth has been populated many times over. From a philosophical view, Mother Earth has a way of shaking us off like fleas when they are too many of us. Hence disease runs rampant eliminating many, natural disasters take more of us, and mass murder is easier. There are many more of us around. If you swing a bat in a crowded mall, you're bound to hit more people around you.

I don't know if you've ever visited a cattle feed lot. They are packed, fence to fence, with cattle, with many of them wallowing in their own feces. Eventually, they'll all get sick and die, if we don't consume them fast enough. So does Mother Earth.

Of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong.

HOLA ALEX,LONG TIME NO HEARING FROM YOU!THANKS ABOUT THE CELEBRITY THING BUT IVE ONLY BEEN IN VERY SMALL PARTS IN FEW CAPITULOS,COMERCIALES AND JUST 5 SCENES AT A MOVIE COMING SOON,ITLL TAKE YEARS TO BECOME (MAYBE,JUST MAYBE) A CELEBRITY TO FEW (BY THAT TIME ILL GET GRANPA PERSONAJES,BUT I THINK ITS WORTH IT CAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST YOUTHS DREAM (IM STILL YOUNG EHHHH?).WHERE DO YOU LIVE,GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER,AND DO YOU STILL HAVE THE INTERESTING PRAYING SITE,ID LIKE TO GET INTO IT AGAI!SALUDOS DE LA CIUDAD DEL PEJE LAGARTO Y FOX!JA! ITZ.




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Jody! Good to hear from you again! What did I tell you after the reunion? Dominic noticed, you really are a beautiful girl! My heart did a flip when you said you've had serious health problems and major surgery! I promise you I will pray for you specifically, and I truly do believe the Lord hears prayer... in fact, my sermon today was about how Jesus said "Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the door will be opened onto you"... how easier could God make it? How much more simple? Just ask! Yet so few take the time to really ask, seek and knock on the Lord's door. I will ask the Lord to make His face to shine upon you, and He will hear me.

Eddie, I remember you. Good to see you here!

Alex e Izcalotl, celebrities! Como dijo alguien, que escondido se lo tenian!

John M. It depends how old that episode of COPS was, I used to go to the CBD (Central Business District, or downtown New Orleans) for Mardi Gras to witness to people about Jesus, but I haven't done so in a few years, usually when Mardi Gras comes we leave town for Disneyworld or something, I don't remember seeing any film crew, although last week they had the streets closed for the filming of the Dukes of Hazard.

Elena, this is that which was spoken of by Jesus, "there will be earthquakes in diverse places" and they will be "like the pangs of a woman in travail", in other words, as the contractions of a woman who is about to give birth increase in frequency and intensity, so natural disasters, among other things, will increase in frequency and intensity, and in places where it never used to happen, until the Lord Jesus returns. Some may say that God allowed this to happen, but this was in such incredibly huge magnitude, that I believe He did not allow it to happen, He ordained it. This was a loud call from God to a world that refuses to hear, to repent and believe the Gospel before it is too late. Don't worry, the inocent such as small children and people who can not make a moral decision truly go to His Presence by the merits of Christ, the unrepentant fulfill what He said "It is appointed for man once to die and after this the judgement"... my advice to all of you, my dear friends, is heed the call!

Private eye,wow!life is sure full of nice surprises!WOW! Te llamo! Itz.




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Soy Investigador privado. Y claro cuando vengas por aca hablame y nos juntamos. Tengo amigos que hacen doblaje, pero casi todos los doblajes se van a mexico. Aqui son negreros y pagan poco como 15 la hora. Pero si quieres te los presento. Conozco el que hacia la voz de Batman y a la sirenita. Luego platicamos cuando vengas o si quieres hablame al celular (818)618-4255 o mandame un email y te contesto las preguntas que tengas.

Bueno un abrazote y te espero por estos rumbos.

Claro que me acuerdo de ti Eddie, gracias por tu informacion, a que te dedicas alla!Tal vez ahora que ande de visita la preoxima semana,we can get a cup of coffee to remmember the old times and share about news! Saludos un fuerte abrazo y mis mejores deseos para ti y your beloved ones in 2005! Itz.




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JAJAJAJAJA!No es una res Mr.,no es una res.......jajajaja!





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ok...
supongo que la tecnica de los doblajes de voz ha avanzado mucho
con respecto a los memorables dialogos de bonanza...
le matare Cartright, usted robo una de mis reses (con acento de puerto rico) jaja

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Izcalotl-Como estas? No se si te acuerdes de mi, pero en fin te mando un saludo. Yo vivo en Los Angeles desde el 81. Te mando unos links para que te des cuenta de los precios etc.... Los bienes raices son caricimos aca. NO consigues nada por menos de 200, 000 dolares. Bueno suerte en tus proyectos y me avisas si necesitas algo.

http://www.latimes.com/classified/

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/

Gracias por los datos Georgina, que mala onda que te hayas divorciado (yo tambien) pero son cosas que pasan y hay que superarlas o no es asi amiga? yo tengo 2 hijos, Ytai de 11 y Olin de 16 casi 17 ya, mi hija vive en Illinois y mi hijo esta por irse a estudiar la Uni alla. Oye, abusando, quiero comprar un pequeño departamento en Los Angeles, que necesito y como esta lo del predial y servicios alla, porque soy mexicano. Gracias y disculpa tanta molestia. Itz. NOTA: Voy del 14 al 24 a LA y Vegas! (voy a estar por alla por tu rancho, como dicen en mi tierra! Ja!) Ciao!




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Hector: Como crees que no te voy a pelar! Te juro que no me han llegado tus emails. Trata esta direccion: gmarquez63@aol.com. Mis otros dos emails (pero que ya no los uso mucho por lo del black) son: gmblack63@hotmail.com y gmblack63@aol.com. Porfa escribeme y mandame fotos de Eugenio. Como esta? Como esta tu esposa?

Ana: Un all inclusive suena bien. No tiene mucho estuvo en Puerto Vallarta y nos la pasamos de lujo en el Marriot. Aunque alli no es all inclusive. A mi me encanta Cancun y en la menor oportunidad me descuelgo para ir a botarme en la playa. Pero es un poco caro y quiza Acapulco o Puerto Vallarta sea mejor porque les queda mas cerca a los del DF y no es tan caro. Para los que estamos en USA da igual volar a un puerto que al otro o al DF.

Izcalotl: Vivo en Orange County, California. Tengo una hija Rebecca (7) y un hijo Chase (5). Me case en 1996 con un veterinario norteamericano. Nos divoricamos en Mayo del 2004. Soy veterinaria y trabajo en un hospital en Irvine, CA.

Homero and Izcalotl: Si es un doblaje de voz para peliculas o comericales. Pero tambien es la lectura de un guion ya sea en español o inglés para un comercial o para una pelicula.

Hector: Si se extrañara a Kikin, pero me da gusto que haya ido supuestamente a un equipo grande. De todas maneras Marioni va a quedar campeon goleador otra vez.
Al parecer tus Aguilas van por el mismo camino al quedar eliminadas en el Interliga.
Si, Homero y Eduardo ya hablaron la semana pasada.

HOLA HOMERO, SE QUE ESTA PREGUNTA ES PARA ALEX, PERO COMO SOY RETEMETICHE,LOL,PARECE QUE VOICE OVER ES DOBLAJE DE VOZ EN T.V. Y CINE, Y ACTUACION PARA RADIO, CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG ALEX!CIAO! ITZ.




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Ana, trying to wrapup my soliloquio,ja! TLANETZIN, el 6o. solo azteca, EL NUEVO AMANECER habla de un cambvio de la era de acuario y de OLIN, el movimienmto o quinto sol, hacia una sociedad mundial mas espiritual,el retorno a los valores sagrados y universales, donde alla menos desigualdades y mejores oportunidades para todos (tengamos esperanza en eso!)Ciao! Itz.




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Hola Ana, para mi con fines practicos fue una negligencia criminal de los gobiernos de esos paises,el sistema internacional de meteorologia ya les habia avisado de la posibilidad un par de meses antes y un servicio meteorologico regional un par de horas antes, y los gobiernos no funcionaron (imaginense como el lio de Itayopan del linchamiento de los 3 policias pero en mega), simplemente eso....filosoficamente y de las profecias que hablan algunos son solo fenomenos naturales explicables y el fin del mundo sera como lo conocemos por la desvirtualizacion de las economias y la pesima distribucion de la riqueza, y tengo mi teoria muy personal de que no es la lucha de clases que postulan los pseudoizquierdistas, sino los malos liderazgos dentro de las propias clases,la lucha esteril ideologica como el verdadero opio de los pueblos y la falta de solidaridad en los paises que se dicen de centro izquierda como mi Mexico y que solo es un frente de la gran explotacion de recursos y de gente en beneficio de gente que no quiere a Mexico, baste el ejemplo de 31,000 mil millones de pesos sobrantes del presupuesto 2004 y que gente disque del pseudopartido de izquierda en el que desvirtuo mi antes querido PRI, que no encontraron otra que repartirselo en bonos extras al aguinaldo entre los 500 diputados federales,pudiendo haber ocupado ese dinero en albergues para niños de la calle, si esos son los de izquierda Dios me libre de la extrema derecha! (y cinste que soy pro empresa 100%), saludos Ana! Itz.




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Hola a todos.

Alex: ¡¡¡¡Que guardadito te lo tenías!!!!
Así que actor!
No cabe duda que eres todo un polifacetico. Pero que bueno!

Por cierto, vas a extrañar a Kikin. Y Dominic, feliz!

Georgina: te he mandado mil mails y no contestas. Ya pelame, ¿no?

Dominic: ¿ya sabes los precios del futbol?

Homero: ¿ya te buscó Eduardo Lozano?

A todos los "filosofos" (and please don't take me wrong, as I have always been a person of faith.)

How do you explain what happened in Asia? (y no me refiero a la parte cientifica)

In the old days podrian decir que habia que sacrificar a una virgen o que los dioses estaban enojados pero ahora...,

Jaja. Sorry, por lo visto todavia necesito hacer algunos ajustes a mi portatil. Bueno mi pregunta era,
que es un Voice Over?
Salu2
HM

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Jodi: Neil Flores lives here in Austin. He is my partner in business. He would probably love to hear from you neil@norbac3.com

2006 Reunion: Please don't do during the World Cup or if you do, please lets have the reunion in Germany.

Ok Ana,ciao!





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Izcalotl, yo no veo telenovelas asi que porfa avisanos cuando salgas sale?

Jodi, definitivamente organizamos algo, que fechas tienes?
Geor, podriamos hacer algo en un all inclusive. This Thanksgiving, we went to one in Cancun, and it was great knowing that you can have a large group of people sitting down for breakfast, lunch or dinner without outrageous bills.

Gracias Georgina,donde estas? Besos igual!





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Happy new year a todos! Como que ya va siendo tiempo de pensar en la reunion del 2006. It's only slightly over 1 year away and places to get reserved quite a bit ahead of time. Que tanto interes hay? En donde la quieren tener? Mexico? USA? Playa?

Izcalotl, que gusto saber de ti! Besos.

Hi Jodi!Thanks for the good wishes,where do you live?Maybe you can watch me at TIDE detergent commercial,Im coacting with Susy Salazar,an actress who just won a prize with a cortometraje at the Cannes Festival!Whos the "hubby" that wouldnt let you get a part in movies your boyfriend or your husband? Well,nice writting to you after the few words we exchanged at the 20 year cocktail,I wasnt able to come to the Baile for working reasons,had to go to Veracruz that day! See you and thanks again! Itz.




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Dwight, Dominic, Gracias por los halagos, piropos. You made me laugh. Gracias por el cumplido. Dominic how is Neil Flores doing? We used to ride the school bus together. Where is Victor? So Izcalotl an actor among us. I am a Telenovela fanatic. I secretly want to act in one someday but I don't think they would hire a guerita to play a chacha or a nana. Those are the only parts my hubby would let me play at this time. Ha :) Continued success to you. I will look for you.

Ana Ceci maybe we can get a group together for dinner some time while I am there. About Pepino well he lasted longer than I thought he would with Josy. People with head injuries have a hard time in keeping jobs. Perhaps we can all put our heads together and think of something.

Elena I guess it's a good thing that you traveled when you did. Such a tragedy.

NICE CODES HOMERO,JA!





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si Alex,es lo que entendi,pero aun tratandose de comerciales o de doblaje o de comercial de radio le dan a uno personajes,cuales has tenido man!




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Izkalotl: No he hecho ni peliculas ni teatro. No me llama la atención eso. Me gustan mas los comerciales y sobre todo los Voice Overs. La industria de Training Videos o lo que se llama Industrial Films es muy grande y hay muchas oportunidades. Saludos

Jodi, I'm glad to hear that you're back in good health. What Dominic really said, when Neil and him were looking at the SA reunion pics with drool buckets under their chin, was, "Damn! check out this hot babe from our class, it's Jodi!" :)

Alex:
Que personajes has hecho,gracias por el consejo,pronto te llamo,sabes,tengo familia,primos en Arizona,me da gusto que te vaya bien! Itz.
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Ana Ceci: Mil disculpas que no pudimos verte, pero con eso de las fiestas pues ya sabes que todo mundo nos invito a cenar etc. Los extrañamos en la reunion. Saludos a John y besos a Julia.

Izcalotl: Arizona es un "Right to Work State" y no es necesario afiliarse a SAG o AFTRA. He hecho comerciales para, Hilton, Carnation, McDonalds, Food City, Waddell & Reed, Qwest, Manufactured Homes y otros mas por ahi. Los Voice Overs me dejan buen dinero y son faciles de hacer. Busca esa opcion en Mexico. El mercado de California es definitivamente el mejor para los actores hispanos, pero como no pienso vivir de esto no conozco bien el ambiente ahi. Cuando gustes hablame al celular 602-573-3554. Saludos y suerte.

Hola Alex,que padre que estes en el negocio, estas como extra y actor? aca en la ciudad de Mexico solo puede uno ser extra 6 meses y despues seguir con los castings pero ya para actor si no lo vetan a uno (no surprise, at my good old monopolical Mexico), no como alla en EEUU que me dicen que tratandose de trabajo le puede entrar uno a los que sea o ambos! (Great!)estoy como actor en Elke Garda, Promoarte y Contexto, precisamente del estoy buscando representante y manager en California, solo que tengo varas interrogantes que no he podido descifrar ni he encontrado demasiada orientacion en las oficinas del SAG y de agencias,me seria de mucha ayuda tu consejo, podria consultarte uno de estos dias aqui? Cuentame en que has salido de t.v. y radio! Itz Flores.




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Hola AnaCecilia!
Pues sali de detective en "Mirada de Mujer;El regreso", de inspector en "La Hija del jardinero", de juez en "Lo que callamos las Mujeres; El intruso" y de doctor en "La Heredera", solo 2 y tres capitulos por telenovela (para mi nada mal for a late starter in acting bussiness, which is a veeery hard ambiente), en dos comerciales que todavia se exhiben en t.v. y cine; de vendedor de "Credito Hipotecario HSBC", de ejecutivo para "Cementos Mexicanos" y en EEUU (para el mercado latino), de marchante para detergente TIDE!, en las proximas fechas de diseñador publicitario en la pelicula de cine "Como tu me has deseado" con Ernesto Yañez, Lourdes Deschamps y Abrahm Ramos en MEXICO......itll take a lot of effort and work starting up at 40 (its been 1 year now),pero vale la pena, a ver hasta donde llego no? Im lucky to be there y lo que caiga es bueno! Saludos a ti y tu marido,ciaoooo! Itz Flores.

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Hola todos, happy new year y dia de reyes

Jodi, aqui te espero.
Veo que no soy la unica que cambia de chamba a los 40. Yo estoy volviendo a hacer arquitectura.
Izcalotl, en donde te podemos ver?

By the way, I just got a call from Pepino. Primero me dio gusto que hablara a saludar pero despues hasta coraje. No puedo creer que dejo a Josy. No mas no aprende. Si alguien mas lo puede o quiere ayudar, he is unemployed again, of his own will.

Anyways, Elena, que bueno que estan bien y que disfrutaron su viaje. The Asian Tragedy is like a bad rated movie.

Quien va a Munich ademas de los Buhler (I assume) y Dominic? Fer y Mitch, los extranamos este anio.

Alex, todavia no puedo creer que no nos hayamos visto, un saludo a Nancy, Jaque, y jr.

Izcalotl: Hola que bueno saber de ti. Asi que viviendo adonde! Yo vivo en Phoenix, AZ y como hobby hago comerciales de TV y Radio. Tengo una agente y va mas o menos. No es una carrera solo un hobby. Que agencia tienes?

Dominic: Si, el Rose Bowl fue bueno. Texas jugo muy bien.
En la NFL, mis Steelers en el AFC y mis Packers en el NFC.

Les mando mi foto para los ratones, ACTOR at 40, divorced (both cvil and anulled in church), proud father of two, Olin, 16, and Ytai, 11 ,who lives in Chicago, and full of joy and hope! Greetings in 2005 to all!





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Hola Dominic! Nope,las exportaciones que hice de miel a Marruecos fueron eventuales. A los 39 decidi regresar a lo que me gusto mucho a los 20, la actuacion, y en un año ahi la llevo, better late than never! Cuentame mas de ti amigo! Saludos y los mejores deseos! Izcalotl.




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Jodi:
Neil Flores (brother of victor) and I were looking at the Alumni mag just a couple of days ago and we spotted you on the picture of the SA reunion. We both agreed you look wonderfull in that picture. Hope you are feeling better and stay healthy!

Izacalotl: Saludos mi estimado Izcalotl. Me debes la gerencia de policia en el dept del distrito federal. Siguen con la miel?

College Football: Best Rose Bowl ever, no doubt! GO LONGHORNS.
PRO Footbal: Dallas Cowboys: RIP

Jodi - I was really bummed that work did not allow me to go to SA for that reunion, and am glad that you are doing better.

My husband and I spent two weeks in SE Asia in Dec (yes if we'd been on Ko Hang 9 days later we'd have been washed away by the wave). Singapore is fabulous (try a chili crab at the Lotus or breakfast at Raffles) The Petronas Towers in Kuala Lampur are quite a sight. The islands of Thailand were magnificent and the people some of the friendliest you'll ever meet. Burma/Myamnmar is a mix of amazing pagodas and the heavy quasi-Communist, heavy military influences. We were on a Seabourn ship, so it made it really easy to see a lot of area in just 2 weeks.

Hi Jodi!Nice hearing from you, have a great year! Izcalotl.





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Hey Guys It's been a really long time. I guess since the Reunion here in San Antonio which all of you missed out on but it was a great party and I got to meet alot great people from other classes and see some others that I had not seen in a really long time. I have had some health problems major surgery etc. but now on the mend so enough said hope that all of you have a wonderful New Year. Feliz Navidad, Happy Holidays, Feliz Ano Come visit.

Ana Ceci I am planning to go to Mexico again for a month at the end of May. We have to get together this time. Ahora si.

¡Feliz Año Nuevo!
Happy New Year to all!
Happy Saturday!

Cheers,

JMB

GRACIAS DOMINIC,UN ABRAZO Y FELICIDADES!





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A todos los que quieren y aman el futbol!

FIFA World Cup tickets on sale 1 February 2005
13 May 2004
by FIFAworldcup.com
Tickets for the 2006 FIFA World Cup Germany officially go on sale on Tuesday 1 February 2005. Ticket requests received by the Organising Committee (OC) before this date will not be processed and no advance reservations will be accepted.
Applications will be possible over the internet, and an official order form is also likely to be made available. Full details will be published in advance of the start of sales.

"The procedure for World Cup ticket sales will be as open and fair as possible," commented OC senior vice president responsible for ticketing Horst R Schmidt. "However, we already know demand will easily exceed our supply of just over 3 million tickets."

The 2006 FIFA World Cup™ Opening Match takes place on 9 June 2006 at the new stadium in München, followed by group matches between 9 and 23 June in the 12 Host Cities. The second phase begins on 24 June with the round of sixteen, with the Final on 9 July 2006 at the Berlin Olympic stadium. The other Host Cities are Dortmund, Frankfurt, Gelsenkirchen, Hamburg, Hannover, Kaiserslautern, Köln, Leipzig, Nürnberg and Stuttgart.

John, I'm an ex-Browns fan (lived near Cleveland right before I moved to Mexico in '79), still a Bungals fan (which is worse than Dominic being a loyal Cowboys fan :) But I am afraid all that will be left in the AFC North will be Big Ben and the Steelers.

Dominic, that is a great story about Sears. I definitely will continute to shop there for tools and appliances. I wish more companies would follow that lead as our troops deserve the very best and always will no matter what shitty situations our government puts them in.

John, we got slammed with snow and ice last Thursday morning. Some areas to the northwest of Cincinnati got over 20 inches of snow. We got 8 inches here along with about 4 inches of sleet and ice. Power was out in our neighborhood for 18 hours starting early on the 23rd. It got pretty cold in our house, but we bundled up with blankets and sleeping bags and baked a bunch of cookies with the gas stove :) Other areas east of here in the rural areas were without power for 3 days. It got down below zero (Fahrenheit) the past two nights. Many of the roads around here still haven't been cleared of the ice and snow for whatever reason.

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Feliz navidad y prospero ano nuevo!

SALUDOS A LA CLASE 81, MERRY XMAS AND A HAPPY 2005!

Season Greetings!
Happy Solstice!
Happy Yule-tide!
Happy Festival of Lights!
Merry X-Mas!
Happy Festivus!

To you and yours from Sunny Colorado!

Dominic. Como te fue en tu fiesta?
Dwight. What is the weather like in Ohio? We got nearly a foot of snow last night and the temperature is expected to drop to below O farenheit. Also, what has happened to the Cleveland Browns?
Loya. I was watching an episode of COPS which was being filmed in New Orleans during Mardi Gras. Te lo juro que te vi parado en una esquina. Es posible?

Did any of you see Coach Babcock on ESPN last night, 12/19 at approx 10pm PST?

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Pollos rostisados en Plaza Satelite? Mejor un puestito de jicama y chicarron con salsa Buffalo en Polanco.
Seasons greetings to all. Feels more like a Canadian Christmas now. Temps dipping, snow on its way, ardillas nowhere in sight. But there are benefits. Last night my son and I went skating by moonlight on a rink that has formed in the pasture. Nos las pasamos de pocos pelos.
Dominic. Enjoy your party.

Dominic, I hope you mean you are ashamed of being a Cowboys fan an not an American... otherwise you should turn in your US Passport and go sell pollos rostizados en Plaza Satelite.

Anyway, here you can view a picture of my grandfather'n dem on horseback in West Texas (notice the six shooter in his belt, I never noticed it till recently!) The picture came out really dark, you can't hardly see my dad in his youth and who is in the shadows as it is, but its still pretty cool. You can also read a piece I wrote and view a picture of myself with my little family, my wife and precious babies.

http://www.montes-family.com/loya.shtml

Loya: I am ashamed but I still wear my Cowboys Cap eventhow we are 5-8 and headed nowhere. As far as those guys who wear funny hats and ride pick-up trucks, HEEHAWW!!!!!

Two websites for all of you all to check out

A letter from a US Army Chaplain in Iraq
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270205/posts

The truth about cowboys
http://www.goodolddogs.com/cowboypres.html

Those of you who are Americans and not ashamed, start wearing a cowboy hat!

Hello fellow AHS alumns.
Pardon the interruption but I am trying to locate the email address of Marissa Valdez (Garcia). I was a classmate of her sister Lolis '78. Anybody who has it (including Marissa) can you contact me at <mphuebner@sbcglobal.net>. Thanks por adelantado. M

yo no voy a poder ir. voy a estar de caceria.

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hola todos, happy holidays y nos vemos el sabado!

Para la próxima te voy a decir con 6 meses de anticipación, Dominic.

Hola Alex´s, Nacho, Ricardo, Chucho, George, Anaceci , Ramón, Homero. (Ojalá Hellen y Georgina vengan)
Les escribo para confirmar nuestra cita a cenar el próximo sábado 18 en el Mama Rosas de Insurgentes sur, casi esquina con Barranca del Muerto. Voy a hacer la reservación a las 9:pm. Por favor, confírmenme su asistencia.

Los veo a todos ahí.
Mi celular es 044 55 8542 6775

Dominic: Pues si pero ya es hora que le den el TRI. Que tiene que hacer para que se lo den?

DITTO to Dominic's comment. Have a great Kwanza, Hannukha, Christmas or what ever else you celebrate.

Juarez: Ahora que si vas a pasar una buena Navidad. Lo malo para Mexico es que vamos a tener que aguantar al Hugol y sus payasadas.

Hector: La verdad no puedo en esas fechas. sorry, te lo debo para la proxima.

To everyone in this chat I want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate. Have a great New Year and GO Longhorns Jan 1 at the Rose Bowl.

Felicidades Alex!!!
Enhorabuena, bicamepones, disfrutalo, vale la pena.

Nos vemos el sábado a las 9 pm en Mama Rosas de Inusrgentes, casi esquina Barranca del Muerto, donde la vez pasada.
Háblame cuando llegues a México.
Mi tel es 91 49 59 04
Mi cel es 044 55 8542 6775

GOYA! GOYA! CACHUN CACHUN RA RA GOYA UNIVERSIDAD!
PUMAS BICAMPEON!
Hector: A que horas nos vemos el 18 y como se llama el restaurant y adonde esta?

Lastima que no vienes (como siempre) Dominic.

Alex y Homero, llegó el día, a ver quien gana, si el arrogante (justificado) del Niño de Oro, o el arrogante (totalmente injustificado) del Piojo. que gane el mejor. Creo que serán las Gatas.
De cualquier forma, aqui celebramos el próximo sábado 18 con los dos.

Loya, te estaremos esperando para la próxima, a ver si entonces Dominic se digna venir.

¿Ya llegó Ricardo de Paris?, le mande un email y no me ha contestado.

Ramon, ¿te llegó mi mail?

Saludos a todos!!!

Dominic. You know, your party sounds like it is going to be a blast. My mouth watered at the thought of ice cold coronitas. Apart from working for Norbac how does one procure an invitation?
As for the true meaning of Christmas? Just watch the movie The Polar Express with Tom Hanks.
We had our second annual Posada here in Chatham. 150 in attendance. Great time considering the guests were sober.

Loya, Christmas is about many things.To me it really is about appreciating what I have and the people in my life. I thought I share something before you do your x-mas shopping this year. As I party hard and enjoy life, frineds and family, there will be many less fortunate soldiers ducking bullets.
I assume you have all seen the reports about how Sears is treating its reservist employees who are called up? By law, they are required to hold their jobs open and available, but nothing more. Usually, people take a big pay cut and lose benefits as a result of being called up . .
  
But, Sears is voluntarily paying the difference in salaries and maintaining all benefits, including medical insurance and bonus programs, for all called up reservist employees for up to two years.
  
I submit that Sears is an exemplary corporate citizen and should be recognized for its contribution.
  

  
  
(So I decided to check it out before I sent it forward. I sent the following email to the Sears Customer Service Department:)
  
"I received this email and I would like to know if it is true."
  
Here is their answer to my email. . . . . . . . .
  
Dear Customer:
  
Thank you for contacting Sears.
  
The information is factual. We appreciate your positive feedback. Sears regards service to our country as one of greatest sacrifices our young men and women can make. We are happy to do our part to lessen the burden they bear at this time.
  
Bill Thorn Sears Customer Care webcenter@sears.com
1-800-349-4358
  
Please pass this on to all your friends, Sears needs to be recognized for this outstanding contribution and we need to show them as Americans, we do appreciate what they are doing for our military!!!!!

Dominic! Bummer, my man! I would've very much liked to have seen you and had dinner with you! Nos hubieramos hechado unas chelas y un alcohol y una buena borrachera!... no not really... but I would've loved to hang out with you, my friend!

By the way, Christmas is not about el chupe, Christmas is about Jesus... the next time you drink some wine, and every time, let it remind you of the blood Jesus shed on the cross so that by believing in Him your sins may be forgiven and you may have eternal life...

I mean, during this season you can't get away from religion! Only that the Muslims don't recognize Judaism as a religion... and many Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah... and Protestants don't recognize the pope as the leader of the Christian Church...

and Baptists don't recognize each other at Hooters!
Hey! So maybe I could've hung out with you at Hooters!... no, not really... McDonalds is good though!

Dominic: They both may suck but it was an entertain 4th quarter <g>.

Dominic: Sounds like a good party to me. You'll have to invite me to a NORBAC party one of these days.

Dominic. I asked only for the fun of reading your reply. You did not dissapoint. Gracias.

Maroney: I don't know where you going with this question but yes, there will be plenty of booze. As a matter of fact, we are requiring everyone to show up in a taxi and do 2 shots of tequila or your favorite spirit before you can enter the restaurant. Only pregnant women and kids under 16 are exempt from this rule(in my book, if they can go to war and die they can drink, so to hell with the 21 rule). We will have a R&R band, plenty of food and waiters walking around with trays full of Herradura Silver and Don Julio Añejo. For those who are still alive at 4am, there will be Menudo and ice-cold mini Coronitas. Now, that's what the X-mas spirit is all about!

Bauer: What you saw last night is a profesional level high school game. My beloved Cowboys really suck this year and fortunataly, so do the Seahawks. Makes for an exiting game but these two teams have no chance.

Dominic. Will there be alcohol at the Norbac party?

I finally saw a bit of football last night. I came home late from a business meeting and caught the last 9 minutes of game time of the Cowboys-Seahawks matchup. What a finale! I thought the Seahawks took it away and then the Cowboys came right back. Reminded me of old times. Great 4th quarter...okay, back to work...

De todas las finales posibles tal vez esta sea la que menos deseaba. Soy Rayado pero como segundo equipo tengo a Pumas. Gane el que gane, no dejar&#E1; de doler un poco. Pero bueno, a disfrutar la final y aprovechar para acabar con unas chelas y un buen tequila.
 

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Dominic: Que la pasen bien en la fiesta de NORBAC. Saludos a todos por alla. Buena la idea de los shots de Tequila!

Ricardo: Que paso con tus Zorros. Los PUMAS le dieron una buena repasada de futbol. No hay problema, pueden esperar unos 43 años mas para ganar un campeonato.

Homero: Ahora PUMAS con todo encontra de tus Rayados. Suerte y que gane el mejor.
Espero te haya ido bien en Francia.

Hector: La verdad es que no voy a poder ir el 18.Voy a estar en Austin ese fin para la fiesta de Navidad de NORBAC.
Ahi se toman una a mi salud.

Janito y Homero: El que pierda la final PUMAS-MTY que se tome un shot de Tequila por cada gol que se anoten en los dos juegos de la final. Mejor ya hablenle a la ambulancia.

Loya: I was in New Orleans this week but forgot to ask for your tel. Man! if the weather was any better id move there in a heartbeat.

Beware New STD
 
The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning
about a new virulent strain of sexually transmitted disease.

This disease is contracted through dangerous and high risk behavior.
The disease is called Gonorrhea lecthim (pronounced "gonna re-elect him").
 
Many victims have contracted it after having been
screwed for the past 4 years, and in spite of having taken measures to
protect themselves from this especially virulent disease.
 
Cognitive sequelae of individuals infected with
Gonorrhea lecthim include, but are not limited to:

* Anti-social personality disorder traits
* delusions of grandeur with a distinct messianic flavor
* chronic mangling of the English language
* extreme cognitive dissonance
* inability to incorporate new information
* pronounced xenophobia
* inability to accept responsibility for actions
* exceptional cowardice masked by acts of misplaced bravado
* ignorance of geography and history
* tendencies toward creating evangelical theocracies
* and a strong propensity for categorical, all-or nothing behavior.

Billy: It is rather mild here for the time being. At night it drops to 25 and during the day it is in the high 30's. That is considered warm. But our cold weather has its advantages. We have a large pasture that sometimes floods during winter meltoffs. This is cool because when the temps fall it becomes a gigantic ice rink. At night under the moon it is unreal to go for a skate. Mi casa es tu casa if you ever journey closer to the arctic circle.
Abrazos
John

John B. You mean, hell be able to vote Democrat, right?... Although if he's been filling his mind with Nietzche and NPR maybe the story is right as it is, air all that gunk out and he'll be able to vote Republican!

By the way, Psalm 129 does not say that!

John M.-

How cold is it up there? A balmy 82 degrees here today.

I live about 2 hours south of Ocala.

Saludos y abrazos!

Billy

And yet, another...

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Corporate Lesson #1

A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower when the doorbell rings. After a few seconds of arguing over which one should go and answer the doorbell, the wife gives up, quickly wraps herself up in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor. Before she
could say a word, Bob says, I'll give you $800 to drop that towel that you have on." After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob.

After a few seconds, Bob hands her 800 dollars and leaves.
Confused, but excited about her good fortune, the woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs.

When she gets back to the bathroom, her husband asks from the shower, "Who was that?"

"It was Bob the next door neighbor," she replies.

"Great!" the husband says, "Did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?"

Moral of the story: If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure.


Corporate Lesson #2

A priest was driving along and saw a nun on the side of the road. He stopped and offered her a lift which she accepted. She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to open and reveal a lovely leg. The priest had a look and nearly had an accident. After controlling
the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg. The nun looked at him and immediately said, "Father, remember Psalm 129?"

The priest was flustered and apologized profusely. He forced himself to remove his hand. Changing gear, he let his hand slide up her leg again. The nun once again said, "Father, remember Psalm 129?" Once again the priest apologized, "Sorry, Sister, but the flesh is weak."

Arriving at the convent, the nun got out gave him a meaningful glance and went on her way.


Upon his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to retrieve a bible and looked up Psalm 129. It Said, "Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory."

Moral of the story: If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity.



Corporate Lesson #3

A sales representative, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie comes out in a puff of smoke. The Genie says, "I usually grant three wishes, so I'll give each of you just one."

"Me first! Me first!" says the admin clerk. "I want to be in the Bahamas, driving a speedboat, without a care in the world." Poof! She's gone.

In astonishment, "Me next! Me next!" says the sales rep. "I want to be in Hawaii, relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of piña coladas, and the love of my life." Poof! He's gone.

"OK, you're up," the Genie says to the manager.

The manager says, "I want those two back in the office after lunch."

Moral of the story: Always let your boss have the first say.


Corporate Lesson #4

A crow was sitting on a tree, doing nothing all day. A small rabbit saw the crow and asked him, "Can I also sit like you and do nothing all day long?"

The crow answered: "Sure, why not?"

So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the crow and rested. All of a sudden a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.

Moral of the story: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up.


Corporate Lesson #5

A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get To the top of that tree," sighed the turkey, but I haven't got the energy."

"Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?" replied the bull. "They're packed with nutrients."

The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found that it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch.

Finally after a fourth night, there he was, proudly perched at the top of the tree. Soon he was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot the turkey out of the tree.

Moral of the story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.


Corporate Lesson #6

In Africa, every morning a gazelle awakens knowing that it must outrun the fastest lion if it wants to stay alive.

Every morning, a lion wakes up knowing it must run faster than the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death.

Moral of the story: It makes no difference whether you are a gazelle or a lion: When the sun comes up, you had better be hauling ass.

I've seen this before...

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It started out innocently enough.

I began to think at parties now and then -- to loosen up. Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker.

I began to think alone -- "to relax," I told myself -- but I knew it wasn't true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time.

I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself. I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka. I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, "What is it exactly we are doing here?"

Things weren't going so great at home either. One evening I had turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother's.

I soon had a reputation as a heavy thinker. One day the boss called me in. He said, "Skippy, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have to find another job."

This gave me a lot to think about. I came home early after my conversation with the boss. "Sweetie," I confessed, "I've been thinking..."

"I know you've been thinking," she said, "and I want a divorce!"

"But Sweetie, surely it's not that serious."

"It is serious," she said, lower lip aquiver. "You think as much as college professors, and college professors don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking, we won't have any money!"

"That's a faulty syllogism," I said impatiently, and she began to cry.

I'd had enough. "I'm going to the library," I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche, with NPR on the radio. I roared into the parking lot and ran up to the big glass doors... they didn't open. The library was closed.

To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night.

As I sank to the ground, clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye.

"Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked.

You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster.
 
Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker.
I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was "Porky's." Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting.
 
I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home.

Life just seemed ... easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.

Soon, I will be able to vote Republican...

If you're interested, I finally updated my website with some more current email addresses...

http://home.san.rr.com/smacintosh/AHSClass...irectory/index.html

I updated the Classes of 78, 79, 80, 81, and 82. If you'd like me to update your email address, let me know.

Dominic, you coming? Let me know when you get here to New Orleans, maybe we can get together for dinner or something, is your family coming? If you contact me early, I will try to get in touch with Coach Everest and maybe he can meet us for dinner also. My phone number (985)534-9709 cell (504)679-1244

Ramon, thanks!

Hector, me gustaria pero no voy a poder, ahi saludenme a todos, y denles un abrazo de mi parte!

Everyone:
 
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
 waht I was rdgnieg The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan
 mnid Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
 Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer inwaht oredr the ltteers
 in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the
 frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset
 can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit
 a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not
 raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
 Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was
 ipmorantt!:

Alex y Homero: Toño vive afuera de Paris como a 45 minutos en tren, de todas maneras le daria gusto que le escribieran.
iniguezantonio@yahoo.com
Por taxis no te preocupes Taxi Mex es 9171 8888 super seguros.

My Holiday wishes for all of you come from a story I love:

A young man learns what's most important in life from the guy next door. It had been some time since Jack
had seen the old man. College, girls, career, and life itself got in the way. In fact, Jack moved clear across
the country in pursuit of his dreams. There, in the rush of his busy life, Jack had little time to think about
the past and often no time to spend with his wife and son. He was working on his future, and nothing could stop him.
 
Over the phone, his mother told him, -- Mr. Belser died last night. The funeral is Wednesday. --

Memories flashed through his mind like an old newsreel as he sat quietly remembering his childhood days.
 
-- Jack, did you hear me? -- Oh sorry, Mom. Yes, I heard you. It's been so long since
I thought of him. I'm sorry, but I honestly thought he died years ago -- Jack said.

-- Well, he didn't forget you. Every time I saw him he'd ask how you were doing. He'd reminisce about the
many days you spent over 'his side of the fence' as he put it -- Mom told him.

-- I loved that old house he lived in -- Jack said. -- You know, Jack, after your father died, Mr. Belser
stepped in to make sure you had a man's influence in your life -- she said.
 
-- He's the one who taught me carpentry -- he said. -- I wouldn't be in this business if it weren't for him.

He spent a lot of time teaching me things he thought were important. Mom, I'll be there for the funeral -- Jack said.
 
As busy as he was, he kept his word. Jack caught the next flight to his hometown. Mr. Belser's funeral was
small and uneventful. He had no children of his own, and most of his relatives had passed away.

The night before he had to return home, Jack and his Mom stopped by to see the old house next door one more time.

Standing in the doorway, Jack paused for a moment. It was like crossing over into another dimension,

a leap through space and time. The house was exactly as he remembered. Every step
held memories. Every picture, every piece of furniture....

Jack stopped suddenly.
 
-- What's wrong, Jack? -- his Mom asked. -- The box is gone -- he said.
 
-- What box? -- Mom asked. -- There was a small gold box that he kept locked on top
 of his desk. I must have asked him a thousand times what was inside. All he'd ever tell me was 'the thing
I value most, -- Jack said. It was gone. Everything about the house was exactly how Jack remembered it,
 except for the box. He figured someone from the Belser family had taken it.
 
-- Now I'll never know what was so valuable to him -- Jack said. -- I better get some sleep. I have an early
flight home, Mom. -- It had been about two weeks since Mr. Belser died. Returning home from work one
day Jack discovered a note in his mailbox. "Signature required on a package. No one at home. Please stop by the main post office
within the next three days," the note read. Early the next day Jack retrieved the package. The small box
was old and looked like it had been mailed a hundred years ago. The handwriting was difficult to read, but the return
address caught his attention. "Mr. Harold Belser" it read. Jack took the box out to his car and ripped open the package.

There inside was the gold box and an envelope. Jack's hands shook as he read the note inside.
 
-- Upon my death, please forward this box and its contents to Jack Bennett. It's the thing I valued most in my life. --
 
A small key was taped to the letter. His heart racing, as tears filling his eyes, Jack carefully unlocked the box. There inside he
found a beautiful gold pocket watch.
 
Running his fingers slowly over the finely etched casing, he unlatched the cover. Inside he found these words engraved:
 
-- Jack, Thanks for your time! -Harold Belser -- -- The thing he valued most...was...my time. --
 
Jack held the watch for a few minutes, then called his office and cleared his appointments for the next two days.
 
--Why? -- Janet, his assistant asked. --I need some time to spend with my son -- he said.
 
-- Oh, by the way, Janet...thanks for your time! -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take
but by the moments that take our breath away.

 

Think about this. You may not realize it, but it's 100% true.
 
 
1. At least 2 people in this world love you so much they would die for you.
 
2. At least 15 people in this world love you in some way.

3. A smile from you can bring happiness to anyone, even if they don't like you.
 
4. Every night, SOMEONE thinks about you before they go to sleep
 
5. You mean the world to someone.
 
6. If not for you, someone may not be living.
 
7. You are special and unique.
 
8. When you think you have no chance of getting what you want, you probably won't get it, but if you trust God to do
 
what's best, and wait on His time, sooner or later, you will get it or something better.
 

9. When you make the biggest mistake ever, something good can still come from it.
 
 
10. When you think the world has turned its back onyou, take a look: you most likely turned your back on the world.
 

11. Someone that you don't even know exists, loves you.

12. Always remember the compliments you received. Forget about the rude remarks.

13. Always tell someone how you feel about them; you will feel much better when they know and you'll both be happy.
 
14. If you have a great friend, take the time to let them know that they are great.
 
Send this letter to all the people you care about, if you do so, you will certainly brighten someone's day and might change
their perspective on life...for the better.

To everyone who reads this
 
-- Thanks for your time!! --

Homero: Claro que se te lleva al hotel. Nos daria mucho gusto verte el 18. Ojala deberas puedas venir. Espero te vaya bien en Francia. Por alla esta Tono Iniguez, pero no se su tel. Alguien tiene su e-mail?

Va de nuez pero sin acentos...

Pues sera el sereno pero el que de seguro pasa a semifinales
es el Monterrey porque a Pachuca no le interesa ni le conviene
quedar campeon. Lo que pasa es que si llegara a quedar
campeon ya no podria jugar la Copa Libertadores al verse
obligado a jugar la Copa de Campeones de la CONFUT.

De la fiesta del 18, no les prometo nada, pero tratere de
estar ahi. Nada mas que necesito que alguien me de ride
al hotel a la salida porque esta caon subirse a un taxi
de noche y con un pomo encima.

Espero que ahora si haya quedado claro...

El jueves me voy a paris y estoy fuera toda la semana proxima
asi que si no me ven por aqui no es que ande ni dormido ni crudo
simplemente ando de vago.

salut
hm
 

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Hector: Llegamos el 17 a las 8:30pm. El sabado por la mañana tengo un bautizo y en la noche nos vemos.
No creo que las zorras puedan ganarle a las chivas. Y de plano yo creo que mi PUMAS le gana a los tiburones.

Ricardo:
No sabía que te habías mudado a Juriquilla. El director de Juriquilla, o mejor dicho, su esposa es muy amiga mia, por si alguna vez necesitas algo.
Nos vemos el 18, ya es un hecho. Y voy preparando el ring. Por cierto, tus margaritas podrían echarse una copa de champange despúes de más de 50 años!

El que no ha dado señales de vida es Dominic...¿Andará crudo ó que?

Ramón, no tengo tu email pero en el que le mande a toda la comunidad, hice extensiva la invitación a tu persona. Mándame un mail a mi dirección: hector.hernandez@realidadamericanista.com y por favor, dile a Federico y al "Olmeca" Gerardo Llanes que estan invitadisimos el 18, sobre todo dile a Federico que esta vez no se raje.

Alex, ¿a que hora llegas el 17?, Alex Mc Grtah me dijo que si se podia cambiar al 17 la fiesta reunión, pero le dije que dependiendo de tu llegada, pero veo que va a estar cañón porque ya muchos han agendado el día 18. Mc Grtah me dijo que si no se puede cambiar la fecha, de todos modos viene con nosotros.

No he tenido noticias de Georgina, ¿alguien de ustedes sí?

Loya, ¿te anímas a venir?


Mi pronostico para campéon: el que gane de las gatas vs los tiburones.

Ricardo: Suerte en Queretaro. Espero te vaya muy bien. Nos vemos el 18 de diciembre.

Paul:
Good to hear from you, I keep running into your brother Eric.Love to come do some skiing in Calgary.
Please congratulate Clayton on his attending the number 1 international business school, Federico Gorbea, Gerardo Llanes, Rene Koch and myself are alumns.

Hi Paul. Dale saludos a Clayton de mi parte.

¡¡¡Hey nada más me voy unos días y ya se estan despelucando!! ¿Cuando pasamos de "los tomatitos muy contentitos" y "el tío Gamboín" a los madrazos??? Personalmente (y aunque un poco tarde) yo creo o creía al menos que esta pagina era para reunir a personas con muy diversas formas de pensamiento y forma de sentir y ver las cosas (y con preferencias políticas y deportivas muy diversas), separados por el tiempo y por la distancia y que convergen aquí. Yo personalmente disfruto de ver todas esas formas aunque algunas veces no las comparta o vengan de gente con la que no tuve la oportunidad de convivir en AHS (aveces siento que los voy conociendo por lo que escriben)...si no las quiero leer...pues nada más DELETE y listo!!! Pero ya cuando salen las amenazas de "nos vemos a la salida"!!??
Y después de esta retórica que ha sacado al rollero que yo también (igual que todos) llevo adentro afirmo que personalmente estoy de acuerdo con dirimir nuestras diferencias en un "mud ring" aunque como no tengo diferencias con nadie, pues yo me ofrezco para "los previews" antes de la pelea estelar solo que para esto yo propongo unas luchas en el lodo...pero MIXTAS!!! ¿Alguien más se apunta??? (solo que como fue mi idea me toca escoger rival...o rivales primero!!! jajajaja)

Aquí nos podemos "dar hasta con la cubeta"...pero cuando nos veamos mejor disfrutamos (todo con medida!!) de unas de esas escalofriantes recetas de Ramón o de Homero...y asunto arreglado. Espero verlos ahí a todos y ver a mis (muy) viejos amigos y a los que igual de viejos pero no tan conocidos espero conocer mejor!

Hector, ¡por que no aprovechamos y mandas instalar un Ring para el día 18. Como trabajas para el America (aquí el perfecto ejemplo de alguien a quien considero un buen amigo, pero cuya manera de pensar me parece terriblemente equivocada...jajaja) igual nos puedes conseguir ese "TV crew" para televisar el evento!!.

Bueno también aprovecho para anunciarles que a partir de este pasado 20 de Nov. la familia Ortega se ha convertido en Queretana!!! Sí, soy otro de esos chilangos rajones que ha decidido cambiar de aires y escapar de los dominios de Andrés Manuel (local joke). Como sea la ventaja de Querétaro es que estoy lo suficientemente lejos de la ciudad y lo suficientemente cerca como para poder ir a las pachangas que ahí se organizan. (después de todo solo son 2 hrs. por carretera) También seguiré trabajando algunos días en la ciudad de México así que no se librarán de mi por completo!!! Si un día andan por acá no dejen de llamarme, mi nueva dirección es:

Calle Jurica Hacienda Grande 104 casa 9
Col. La Solana II, Juriquilla Querétaro
tel (todavía es celular) 01(55)54194907

Un fuerte abrazo a todos y espero verlos pornto. No dejen de confirmarme lo del ring para llevar mi traje de baño a la reunión!!!

Freud: If you talk to Clayton please give him my numbers:
Cell is 602-573-3554 and home 623-551-0277.

Alex - Mark is in Calgary - lo saludo de tu parte cuando lo vea. We will be seeing him over the Xmas season - todos los Freuds van a Calgary - a change of gears from prior years when we went South for the winter. Skiing up in Banff for a few days and then spending the rest of a week in the city. For those of you that haven't been there, Calgary is a great city..... good party town. For the Phoenix clan - Clayton Odor ('82) should be there soon. He is attending Thunderbird and is just wrapping up a semester in France. We are considering going there in Spring Break... still very tentative, but, if we do, a ver si no nos juntamos para una (o dos) copa. Saludos a todos. Bill - it's a trip to hear from you and good to know things are going well for you.

Billsky! u.b.? Good to hear from you my friend!

Bill: Good to hear from you Bill. Please say hello to Poncharelo.

Dwight. You need a song to go along with these shirts.
There is a line from a Mexican song that fits this to a t.
"PERO SI VIERAN, COMO SON LINDAS ESTAS BORRACHERRAS, YANDALE"
Bill. Good to hear from you. I keep in touch with Aldona via email. Are you anywhere near Ocala?

If Bush relies on Cheney's advice and council for premption and the Iraq War, does that mean he has a Dick in his ear?

:)

Five T-Shirts you might see Dominic, myself, and other 'enlightened' humans wear

1. It's not a beer belly, it's a fuel tank for a sex machine.

2. I'm not drinking anymore, then again I'm not drinking any less.

3. My idea of a balanced diet is a beer... in each hand.

4. I gave up drinking, smoking and sex. It was the worst 15 minutes of my life.

5. Got tequila?

Hi to all!

Greetings from sunny, though quite windy 2 months ago, Florida!
Luis Dos Santos and I still live about 25 miles from each other and we have an on-line toy business for 3 years now. I still have my bar, 12 years and my liver is still functioning.

All is well here and I hope all is well with you and yours!

Saludos y abrazos!

Billy

Hola a todos!!!
No andaba medio perdido, lo que pasa es que he tenido mucho trabajo y en mi casa todo mundo está enfermo, Eugenio mi hijo con colitis (a los 2 años, 9 meses) y Chiquis mi esposa con varicela!!!!

Pero no me olvido de ustedes y ya quede de acuerdo con Alex Juárez de organizar otra "cenita-fiesta-reunión-musica-chupe(Loya estas invitadísimo)" como la de Marzo pasado.

Me encargaré de buscar a todos, pero por aquí ya saben, están invitados todos los que vivan en México o vayan a estar por esa fecha aquí. Será el sábado 18. Ojalá y todos jalen con nosotros. Juárez llega el 17.

Dominic, a pesar del ridiculo de tu equipo de Primera "A" que juega en Primera Nacional, te esperamos. Quedaste muy formal de venir "ahuevisimo" la próxima vez. Bueno, esta es la proxima vez.

Ramón, ojala y ahora no te cortes. Y George, ojalá esta vez si tengas con quien dejar el changarro. Homero, ¿vendrás de Monterrey?

Luego les mando un mail a cada uno para recordarles.

Por cierto, en estos días les voy a mandar la FOTO DE LA SEMANA, nueva versión, del Impala temporada 73-74.

¿Alguien sabe algo de Georgina?

Arriba el Veracruz!!!! jajajajajaja,y él Águila!!!!!