Hi everyone! So here is something to share with you all, so since I dont´t want to be "politically improper" or anything like that, 1st. I admit full authorship for sending this, 2nd. sorry If I hurt any Republican sensibilities, not my intention, 3rd. retaliation admitted and 4th as I always say and recommend simply and plainly...enjoy!!!

Talk about scary:

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
....George W. Bush, Jr.
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 12/6/93
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"The future will be better tomorrow."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93
"When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in LA, my answer has been direct & simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame.Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame.
...George W. Bush, Jr.
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"Welcome to Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"Mars is essentially in the same orbit...Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 8/11/94
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95
"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/22/98
"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 11/30/96
"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/21/97
"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican"
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/20/96
"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/22/97
"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/5/93
"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/18/95
"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that George Bush may or may not make."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
"Public speaking is very easy."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr. to reporters in 10/9

WOOOW!

 Hey! Six months to the reunion?! Holy smokes! I better jump back on that stationary bike and quit eating them big bowls of fruit loops!

Ingrid, is that $130 deposit for a family or per person? I don't remember reading about it here...

Cindy, come on now! Have I given you any reason whatsoever to think I would possibly go into a desertation about hell in response to el colega Homero's chemistry lecture? Moi?

Homero, exothermic definately, and very hot!

Today I stopped at a print shop to ask how much it would cost to print up the 20 year AHS Class of 81 yearbook I mentioned several moons ago. They will give a quote Monday, I shall let you guys know.

I too am hoping I can make it to the reunion, in May, like I said, my new baby will be about 1 month old and Sandra my wife will be recovering. By the way, today I heard my new baby's heart beat for the first time! It was cool! Beating really fast like a scared rabbit! And today I heard my son call me "Daddy" for the first time too! It was great! And then he gave me a big smile! It used to be that he gave me a toothless smile, now he gives me one with two toothies! I love being a dad!

Anybody, my wife and I are thinking about driving our little family down to Mexico from New Orleans via McAllen to Queretaro, can anybody tell me if there are any super carreteras from McAllen to Queretaro? Are the roads in that area safe? Does anybody know if right after Christmas, like around the 27th, is it easy to cross the border into Mexico or is it super crowded like before Christmas? I have never driven that way, I always fly but we want to go on our van this time. So, I would appreciate any words of wisdom here!

John B. talking about controversial subjects! My convictions were really put to the test! Yesterday I went and sold some insurance to an elderly couple, I spent about 2 hours putting my slaesmanship talents to work and sold them a policy. I made $925.38 comission on this one sale. They sign the check, I'm filling their receipt and all of a sudden Mr. Owens asks me "So what do you think about what's going on in Florida?" Now, I had a good rapport going so as I'm writing the receipt I begin to answer "Well..." fixin to speak my mind freely, but he interrupts me with. "That Bush is trying to steal the election, isn't he?" I'm like, "Uuh, well..." Man! Talk about my best efforts at diplomacy! I told them where I stood, no compromise, but I managed to be tactful to where I didn't loose the sale! Unlike with my mother in law, she is a liberal democrat so the day before the election I called her to share with her what I shared with you all that ruffled some feathers and rocked the boat. She wasn't home, but the answering machine was on, so I proceeded to leave a message on her answering machine, "Hey, maw maw, listen to this!..." then I proceeded to leave the same message on her answering machine that I posted here that was so controversial. Needless to say, Thanksgiving dinner was pretty cold! And I don't mean the turkey! ( I warmed her up with a hug, though.) Anyway, I'm rambling now! Hugs to all!
Alex

Hello!
 Anybody out there?? We hope everyone has very happy and healthy holidays: Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, Happy Hannukah and all. Our best wishes for a wonderful 2001

Alex Juarez- Thank you. I got your payment :)

EVERYONE - let's pay up guys, Anacecilia needs to put down the deposit, and now it is cheaper, In January the price goes up.

So, send your $130 per person to any one of us who are in charge of finances.

John Bauer brought up an interesting point. I am also one of those phantom readers, just like him. I wonder how many of us are reading this but never(or rarely) comment. I'm a curious cat and so I'm starting a head count of phantom readers. John B. and I make 2... anyone else? Say "Aye" and be counted! :-)

Georgina Marquez- Martes 12 sounds great. Te llamo el Sabado para quedar. Estoy filmano del 6 al 9, y es de noche asi que duermo de dia. Cuando me despierte el Sabado te llamo para quedar.
How exciting seeing you again after soooooo long.

John Bauer- Ditto con lo que dijo Georgina :)

John B: No way! You have to come! I have been so totally looking forward to seeing you and meeting your wife and daughter! Hey, we had so much fun together in high school that I can't even think of going back to la reunion without you there! No seas mala onda. Tienes que venir. No ifs, ands, or buts!!! What could be more important than going back to see a los cuates?

Ingrid: Que tal andas para el martes 12 de diciembre? Yo estoy libre como de 11am a las 2pm.

Fernando Fuentes- No hay vuelos directos. Puedes volar de Bruselas a Paris/Londres- de ahi a New York/Chicago/Atlanta/Miami y de ahi a Mexico. Yes indeed it is quite the shlepÉ..but very well worth it.
I don't have children yetÉpero, others have done it.
Que gusto me da que estas disfrutando los cacahuates. Cuales te gustaron mas?

Georgina Marquez- I guess I am the No. 3 kind of person. LOL

John M. Bauer- Why can't you come to the reunion?

Wow, I finally decided to write something on here after such a long hiatus. Yes, I'm one of those phantom readers who has been enjoying the banter back and for, both possitive and negative. I must say that with all the opinionated folks out there, I'm surprised larger debates haven't risen to flourish.

Anyway, thought I'd add a few notes:

Fernando: I just flew back from Argentina with my thirteen month daughter. The total flying time was fourteen hours but was approximately a seventeen hour travel time including the layover in Chicago. Didn't use any drugs to keep her calm. We have been travelling with her since she was one month old and have not had much trouble. We deal with air pressure ear disturbance with a spare cup of something for her to drink, or my wife leans over the car seat and feeds her directly from her breast. Works like a charm and no-one is out of their perspective seats to do this. We did purchase a portable air purifier for our daughter and we place it in her car seat while she sleeps to ensure she gets better air (let's not go into the impurities of recirculated air in an airplane). If she is not asleep for the flight, we entertain her, and often so do the airflight personnel <g>. Good luck with the trip.

Carol: Interesting point you've raised regarding the next president's potential power. There will be several opennings in the supreme court and hopefully whoever is appointed, regardless of the president, will be wise enough to continue upholding the US constitution and be in favor of supporting personal freedoms and rights, including the right to choose their own morality. There are consequences when one has the freedom to make choices which falls in the area of self responisibility, much of which is lacking in the US society. Thoughts???

Well, that's all for now. I regret that I will not be able to attend the reunion much to my chagrin. Look forward to hearing all the wonderful times everyone had.

Cheers, JMB

Fer. No le saques!

A todos los que estan en Mexico, Para comprar sus boletos abri una nueva cuenta en Bancomer.

Nombre, Anacecilia Perez-Vargas
Cta. 5855169-8
plaza 001
sucursal 231- pabellon bosques

mi e-mail es comaj@iserve.net.mx
fax 55 40 5857

En cuanto reciba su ficha de deposito, yo me comunico para darles su no. de boleto. (No importa si solo van a ir a 1 evento)

La entrega de boletos la haremos posteriormente. Yo les aviso quien va a tener.

Gracias y APROVECHEN EL DISCOUNT!!!

Fer: The longest trip we've been on with our children was to Hawaii (total travel time was 11 hours because of airport delays). The actual trip was not too bad, again benadryl really helped. I brought a carry-on bag full of new toys and activities which also really helped. Snacks and an extra supply of drinks was very handy (you can't always get snakcs or drinks for the kids quickly on the airplane especially if you get stuck on the runway or during turbulence). The toughest part was the time change once we were in Hawaii (and it's only a 3 hour difference). Taking the children out of their own environment is tough on them. If you add the time change, then they get really screwed-up schedule wise which in our case turned our son into a very grumpy boy. It took him (he was about 9 months old at that time) 4 days to get used to the new schedule. He was up at 3am every day and had the hardest time taking naps. John and I were absolutely exhausted. I don't think we ever got to sleep more than 3 hours at a time. I would suggest plan on several days just for Oliver to get used to the time change.

Our pediatrician once told me: "There are only 3 types of people:

1 - other parents who will always understand what you are going through

2. - grandparents - who will always smile because they find anything you're children are doing amusing , and

3. - people who haven't had children who are just ignorant about what you are going through.

Just wanted to say hi.

Thanks for the travelling tips. We'll definitely take them into consideration - previous doctor consultation! However, the reason i still have doubts about taking little Oliver is because the trip to Mexico from this side of the woods takes a good 14 to 15 hrs, and that is one heck of a long trip! (Creo que no hay vuelos directos a México de Bruselas, por lo que se tiene que considerar una escala con cambio de avión, y el tiempo respectivo de espera entre vuelos!!!) Heck if it was something around 5 to 6 hrs. I wouldn't even be worried about it!!! HAS ANYONE OUT THERE MADE A TRIP THAT LONG WITH A 9 MONTH OLD BABY?

Other than that I am happy to report that I am really enjoying my cacahuates!

Ana / Ramón - About how many people do we have so far who say they will attend?

Everyone take care.

Ana: Gracias por los travel tips. Having traveled often with two, I found myself being desperate at times. Here's my tip: (pediatrician approved of course): Benadryl or Dimetap - they'll sleep through most of the trip!

My Address for those of you who are ready to send in your money is:

1904 FOX HILLS DR.
LOS ANGELES, CA 90025

Huury, hurry... send those payments in.

QUE BUENO VER QUE ESTA FUNCIONANDO MAS ESTE CHAT.
We need to find more people, we only have 6 months. So lets work hard to find more of our cuates.

Antonio Iniguez- LOL. Me encantaron tu ski tips. Lo de los JarochosÉ.; pues pasatelo super bien. Felicidadez por tu hermano.

Homero Machada- Muy bueno for the 3 wise women. Y que buena clasasita de Quimica nos diste.

Georgina Marquez- Way to go girl!

Alex Loya- Welcome back! Glad to have you back with us.

Ricardo Ortega- LOL, el color fucsia????? Rosa Mexicano hahahahahahahahah. Ya encontraremos el MENSAJE PARA LOS HOMBRES, don't YOU ( not George) worry your little head.

Cindy P - Que haces? En que trabajas?

Dale Reed- Thank you for always finding ways to facilitate things for all of us.

Anacecilia- Los datos estan en camino. Tirso va a ir a Mexico, le voy a mandar el cash que haya llegado para que lo recogas OK?

JB Diedrich- LOL esta muy bueno.

Kelly S- Que bueno ! Enjoy

Another 148 Klaus negatives scans have just been uploaded at the MSN Communities ASF site

Enjoy!

BTW if you have trouble getting in, use the following name and password:
name: asfguest@yahoo.com
password: gobearsgo
(Please don't spread the password to others than ASF Alumni)

Ingrid Urich-Sass - I got the most wonderful package from you this week! How can I ever thank you? I've hidden a small stash from my husband (who, unfortunately, has also acquired a taste for cacahuates!), and will share the rest. You are fabulous! Thanks so much.

Here is another one of those Timely stories for you guys.

Subject: The Grinch Stole Election Day
 
 By Frank Cammuso and Hart Seely
 (With respects to Theodor S. Geisel.)
 
     Every Chad
     Down in Chad-ville
     Liked voting a lot ...
     But the Grinch,
     Who lived just north of Chad-ville
     Did NOT!
 
     The Grinch hated voting! He thought it a bore.
     Now, please don't ask why. Could be Bush, could be Gore.
     It could be his heart bled with liberal mush.
     It could be, perhaps, that he listened to Rush.
     But I think the real reason his trust was so shattered
     Was the great Grinchy view that his vote never mattered.
 
     BUT
     Whatever the reason,
     Lack of trust, lack of goals,
     The Grinch dreaded that day when Chads went to the polls.
     He just hated those speeches and negative ads,
     And when push came to shove, he just hated the Chads.
     He just hated their theme parks, their football-team rooters,
     He just hated their gun laws, their barmaids at Hooters.
     He just hated their weather, even hated their hate.
     And he hated that they were a battleground state.
 
     "So they're making their choices," he snarled with a sneer.
     "This 'Decision Two Thousand' is practically here!
     "They'll struggle to choose 'tween a crumb and a bum,
     " 'Cause a voter's a voter, no matter how dumb."
    Then he growled, his Grinch fingers nervously drumming,
     "I MUST find a way to keep outcomes from coming!"
 
     For tomorrow, he knew ...
     All the flag-waving souls,
     Would again waste their efforts on Clintons or Doles.
     And by then, oh, the polls! Oh, the polls! Polls! Polls! Polls!
     That's the one thing he hated! The POLLS! POLLS! POLLS! POLLS!
 
     So the Chads, rich and poor, and by bus, car, or boat,
     They would vote! And they'd vote!
     And they'd VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!
     They would vote to ban smoking or clearing your throat.
     They would even vote laws in for curbing your goat.
 
     And THEN ...
     They'd sing that anthem. It always came later.
     Be they Bush-ites or Gore-ites or ites of Ralph Nader.
     They'd stand close together, and though still full of fight,
     They'd stand and they'd sing, by that dawn's early light.
 
     And the more the Grinch thought of Election Day's ring,
     The more the Grinch thought, "I must stop this whole thing!
     "Why, for two hundred years I've put up with it now!
     "I MUST stop these outcomes from coming!
     "... But HOW?"
 
     Then he got an idea!
    Yes, a legal idea!
     THE GRINCH
     GOT AN AWFUL BUT LEGAL IDEA!
 
     "I know just what to do!" The Grinch laughed with a jig.
     And he wove from his goat a Sam Donaldson wig.
     And into the mirror he spoke with grand rancor,
     "With this helmet of hair, they'll all think I'm an anchor!"
 
     "All I need are some ballots ..."
     The Grinch looked around.
     But since ballots were private, there were none to be found.
     So he made his own ballot, printing letters quite little,
     And he scattered the names, running holes down the middle,
     And he stuck it together with Chad-berry spittle.
     And he said, "They'll need Einstein to figure this riddle!"
 
     THEN
     He loaded his boxes, and without looking nervous
     Put a sign on his van that said "Voter News Service."
     THEN
     The Grinch pulled away in his van with a screech
     Toward the pads of the Chads in a place called "Palm Beach."
 
     When he came to the first polling place in the square,
     All the lines were quite long. Thoughtful talk filled the air,
     As the Chads chatted merits of managed health care.
     "Vote early and often," the Grinch said with a grin.
     And he marched to the front of the line and stepped in.
 
     There he left all his ballots, the strange ones with punches,
    And instructions that said, "Please punch punches in bunches."
    As he slunk out the door toward the nearest Grand Hyatt,
    He could hear what you'd think was an Elián riot.
    The Cohen sisters Esther, Mitzi, and Shannon,
    Just realized that their votes had all gone to Buchanan!
 
    At a place in Dade County near a middle-school yard,
    The Grinch donned a shirt that said, "Polling Place Guard."
    And he eyeballed each Chad and said, "Where is your card?
    "Voter card? Motor card? Credit card? Diner's?
    "Face card? Race card? Baseball card? Shriners?"
    And he turned them away. Then the Grinch, like a fox,
    Stuffed all of his ballots and locked the lockbox!
 
    Then old Grinch returned home to go "LIVE" on TV.
    He had waited quite late: (It was now eight oh three.)
    So the Grinch Network News first projected a score:
    "Now with one percent in, we pick Chad-ville for GORE."
    Every Gore-ite in Chad-ville said, "GIVE US SOME MORE!"
 
    So he pulled more projections straight out of his stack.
    Then, "Oh, dear!" said the Grinch, "I must take it all back!"
    So the Grinch Network News, in grand fairness to all
    Now reported that Chad-ville was "TOO CLOSE TO CALL."
 
    "Don't be mad, all you Chads, for this isn't a scandal,
    "It was just," the Grinch said, "we forgot the Panhandle.
    "The science of sampling can leave one out-simpled."
    So the Chads were left hanging and pregnant and dimpled.
    And the stress of it all put George Bush among the pimpled!
 
    Then the Grinch raised a finger for the night's final push.
    "Election Day's done, and the winner is BUSH."
     After all, George was leading at least by a dozen.
    (And whenever it's close, always go with your cousin.)
    "Play the music, the songs, pop the corks, sing the praises,
    " 'Cause with Bush as the winner, you're all getting raises!"
    And then the Grinch yawned, "This election stuff's hokey,
    Good-bye 'till next year! And now back to you, Cokie."
 
    And the Grinch, he went back to his old Grinchy pad.
    But en route, he was nabbed by a little Chad lad
    Who had stayed up all night (quite ignoring his dad).
    He stared at the Grinch and said, "Sir, who's our leader?
    "Is it Bush? Is it Gore? Or, my choice, Derek Jeter?"
    And the Grinch simply smiled: This day couldn't be sweeter.
 
    They were finding out now that no outcome was coming!
    They were seeing it now, all their dumbness and dumbing.
    "They're just waking up!" he said. "Here's what they'll do!
   "Their mouths will hang open a minute or two
   "And the Chads down in Chad-ville will all cry, 'WE'LL SUE!' "
 
    As he stared down at Chad-ville, the Grinch popped his eyes,
    But the scene that he saw brought a shocking surprise.
    All the Chads down in Chad-ville, Chad lads and Chad dads,
    They were counting the votes, they were counting the chads!
    He hadn't stopped an outcome from coming.
    IT CAME!
    SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, IT CAME JUST THE SAME!
 
    As the Grinch with his head buried deep in the sand
    Sat puzzling and puzzling, "They will count them by hand?"
    Yes, it came with the lawsuits, it came with the lawyers,
    It came with Tim Russert, it came with Bill Moyers.
    When the ballots were plucked and the counting was done
    The last margin of victory turned out to be ... ONE!
    And if the Grinch had just voted,
     ... HIS GUY WOULD HAVE WON!
     And what happened then ...
     Well ...
     In Chad-ville they say
     That the Grinch's small district
     Grew three sizes that day.
 
     'Cause the minute his mood had come out of its slump,
     The Grinch said, "Hmm! I could be running this dump!"
     So he formed a committee to do all the work
     And he ...
     HE HIMSELF!
     The Grinch ran for town clerk!

Thank you Dale for the update at the web page and for letting us use your p-pal. Unfortunately, a Mexican account won't work. So, if it is ok with you, we can keep using yours for those who prefer this type of payment.

Ingrid, porfa mandale los datos de tu cuenta a Dale.

Everyone please look it up! Todos los que estan empezando a comprar sus boletos, muchas gracias.

Yola, Ramon tiene reservado 25 cuartos en el Nikko como grupo, tengo que preguntarle como van a ser las reservaciones individuales. I'll get back to you on that one. Para el boleto de los eventos, puedes depositarle a Ingrid o usar el Pay pal de Dale.

Either way you chose, please let them know you have paid, they will then give you a reference no. which in turn will be the same as your ticket no.

Cindy MUCHAS GRACIAS! Ramon y yo nos comunicamos pronto .

Hablando de abuelita thing, for the Taquiza Familiar, I'm sure we can have several there. Tu ma Geor, Fer, David, y todas las que quieran ir.

Elena: Congratulations! We'll have a toast a su salud on Jan 31st! Como dicen por aca Salud, Dinero y AMOR! One personal tip, I met John, my husband through work (actually through a fax), we've been married for 4 1/2 years and Work together ever since. I have to admitt we make a great team but believe me, when you've been so independant, being 24 hours together can be overwhelming. Specially know that we have Julia. I sometimes need more space. Think about it.

Homero, save some jokes for the reunion ! Que simpaticas respuestas.

Marcie, Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving with Erin. I'm sure that by May, you'll be fluent in Spanish again.

Tono. Todavia falta!

Fer, Que bueno que ya se estan instalando. Julia just completed her second airplane trip un eventfully. She is now 9 months old. For those travelling with kids, this has worked for us: half an our before take off, 1 drop of Afrin on each nostril(of course, consult with dr). Then make sure that during take off and during landing they have a bottle of milk or juice. It is important that they suck at this time to avoid ear ache. Get an aisle seat. Arrive early because if the flight is not full, they can leave the center seat empty. Try to get the first row, since it is more spacious. If that is full, try the row behind emergency exit as those seats don't recline, asi no se te echan encima. Take many jugetitios and tell baby to smile!

Hi,

I haven't visited here in a while, and it looks like I need some major time on my hands if I want to catch up.

I've put a credit-card payment option on the reunion web site (http://muffin.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.htm). It uses a service called PayPal.

You have to register with them to use your credit card, but that is pretty standard for an e-commerce type of transaction (like at Amazon.com, etc.) Unfortunately it is still linked into my account, but hopefully we can get that changed so that it links straight to Ramon or Anacecilia in Mexico.

Those of you (like) me who are planning on going for sure, now's the time to register, as prices go up after December. The price info. is on the web page as well.

Homero: I do use angles and torque stuff in my job. I don't know much about endo or exothermic. But to continue on Tonio's theme of being "generous in proportion" I do know the forces of gravity (I think Newton discussed this in his second law about acceleration, mass and force) have affected my butt since graduting from high school.

Alex: please do not go into a disertation about Hell.

Ricardo, George, Yolanda, and Georgina: keep 'em coming.

Tonio: sera mala honda si no vienes a la reunion. Tell your boss you have a "man thingy problem that needs to get fixed". He's French...I'm SURE he'll understand

Hope everyone had a good Turkey day.

What happened to Cary Rothman, Billy Parra and some of the other people out there?

This probably never happened and will become an urban legend soon (if it isn't already), but anyways it's cool... Any science teachers out there?

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term exam paper:
"Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat), or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Support your answer with a proof."

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law(gas cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed) or some variant thereof.
One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time.
So, we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since, there are more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell, because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Ms. Krissy Jones during my Freshman year that "it will be a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then (2) cannot be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic.

This student got the only A.

Ahh pero que aburrido seria la vida sin las mujeres!

Here is my joke contribution (rated R)-


HER STORY:
He was in an odd mood when I got to the bar to meet him, I thought it might have been because I was a bit late. He didn't say anything much about it. He seemed silent, distracted and his only eye contact seemed judgmental. I decided maybe I should never wear that dress again. Well, maybe it was the color. Maybe I should never wear this color again either. The conversation was so slow going so I thought maybe we should go off somewhere more intimate so we could talk more privately. He didn't really seem to agree, but we went off to this quiet little restaurant and he's STILL acting a bit funny and I'm trying to cheer him up, be witty and tell cute stories, but I start to wonder whether it's me or something else. He doesn't smile much, so I ask him, but he says no. But you know I'm not really sure. I wonder, and then I think about the 5 pounds I gained this past month. I bet he thinks I'm a fat hog now. Anyway, in the cab back to his house, I say that I love him and he just puts his arm around me, but doesn't squeeze. I don't know what the hell this all means or what I should think because you know he doesn't say it back or do anything. We finally get back to his place and I'm wondering if he's going to dump me. So I try to ask him about it but he just switches on the TV. Reluctantly, I say I'm going to go to sleep. Then, after about 10 minutes or so, he joins me and we have sex. But he still seems really, really distracted, so afterwards I just wanted to leave. I roll over and sniffle a little real quietly. He snores. I dunno, I just don't know what he thinks anymore. I mean, do you think he's met someone else?

HIS STORY:
Bad day at work. Really tired. Got laid, though.

Bueno, como a mi me encantan los chistes, sobre todos los colorados o no "politicamente correctos" alli les va uno que me causó mucha risa recientemente:

A man and a woman (strangers to each other) are taking a traking a train trip which requires an overnight stay in a cabin. Much to their chagrin, they are booked in the same cabin. After the initial discomfort of sleeping in the presence of a total stranger, they both set up the bunks and retire for the night. Some tossing and turning later, the man, who is on the upper bunk leans over and says "Excuse me, but it is a little chilly up here, would you mind passing me an extra blanket?" The woman looks up and with a glint in her eye and a coy smile responds "I have a better idea, let's pretend we're married!" The man laughs and says "Sure why not?" The woman curls up in her bunk and says "OK, get your own f.... blanket". Only if you're married ...

Mi estimado Ricardo: Creo que ahora si abriste la lata de gusanos. Te van a llover quejas de nuestras bellas companeras. Creo que esta no te la vas a acabar. Haber como sales de esta. Creo que despues de esto, vas a ser tu el que necesite de un ortodoncista.........

Homero: Como le atinaste a lo de VanDamme con Loya?

George Matraca: Por donde andabas mi amigo? Que bueno que ya regresaste, y sigue mandando los chistes. Estan muy buenos.

Shelly L: Where are you? Haven't heard from you.

Edited by author 11-27-2000 04:41 PM
Ricardo:
       Hechame un muerto mas al fin y al cabo este pobre burro esta mas muerto que vivo. Toma credito de tus acciones Ricardo (aka El **** T*******) Esta bien que estaba de vacaciones pero ya regrese. Un saludo a todos Y gracias Homero por defenderme en ausencia. Yo no hago nada para convencer a mi me llegan los chistes y se los mando a quien yo creo que le haga gracia o aguante el chiste: si el decide publicarlo es bronca del que firma.

¡Bueno, bueno! No es para tanto! Al final dice claramente Enjoy... si alguien se siente afectado no era esa mi intención. Y lo otro, pues hay que darle crédito al creador de las cosas...no sea que despúes me cobre derechos de autor! Ladies, don't be angry! Final, rotunda y reiteradamente repito...Enjoy!

Richard, qué bueno que apareciste...
pero lamento informarte que dado que todo lo que aquí se pone es bajo la responsabilidad del que firma el mensaje pues tu intento de vacuna echándole la paleta al George es totalmente inútil. Sorry chavo pero según veo que es la onda aquí, te comunico que seguramente te estará llegando una andanada de mensajes de contenido no muy amable en los próximos días y horas...
Pero ánimo, hasta ahora nadie se ha muerto de eso... ya ves a Loya... ahí anda vivito y coleando...

Oye Loya, por cierto, qué buena anéctoda... Te digo que escribas un libro. O de perdido vendele el guión a Van Damme.

George, a ver si me pasas la técnica de convencer a otros de que cuenten por uno los chistes potencialmente impopulares (o políticamente incorrectos según la definición tradicional)

Ahí les van unas contribuciones enviadas por mi pero cortesía de George. Enjoy!

MENSAJE PARA TODAS LAS MUJERES, DE PARTE DE LOS HOMBRES
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> * Si piensan que estan gordas, probablemente sea cierto.
> > >> No nos pregunten. Nos negamos a responder.
> > >>
> > >> * Si no se visten como modelos de ropa interior, no esperen que nos comportemos como los galanes de la telenovela.
> > >>
> > >> * A veces no estamos pensando en ustedes.
> > >> Acostumbrense a eso.
> > >>
> > >> * No nos pregunten en que estamos pensando, a menos que esten listas para hablar de temas como la pelusa del
ombligo, la estrategia del futbol, la musica de nuestro
gusto, o los autos deportivos.
> > >>
> > >> * Acudan a nosotros con un problema solo si quieren ayuda para resolverlo.
> > >> Para eso servimos.
> > >>
> > >> * Digan lo que quieren decir.
> > >> Dejemos esto en claro: Las indirectas sutiles no funcionan.
> > >> Las indirectas directas no funcionan. Las indirectas muy
> > >> obvias no funcionan. Diganlo tal como es!!
> > >>
> > >> * Si hacen una pregunta para la que no quieren respuesta, no les extrañe una contestacion que no quieren oir.
> > >>
> > >> * Domingo = Deportes.
> > >> Es como la luna llena o la subida de la marea.
> > >> No pueden evitarlo.
> > >>
> > >> * Ir de compras no es un deporte, y no, nunca vamos a considerarlo de esa manera.
> > >>
> > >> * Cuando tengamos que ir a alguna parte, absolutamente cualquier cosa que traigan puesta esta bien. De verdad.
> > >>
> > >> * Tienen suficiente ropa.
> > >>
> > >> * Tienen demasiados zapatos.
> > >>
> > >> * El llanto es chantaje.
> > >>
> > >> * La mayoria de los hombres tienen tres pares de zapatos. Que les hace pensar que servimos para decidir cual par de treinta, se ve bien con ese vestido?
> > >>
> > >> * SI y NO, son respuestas perfectamente aceptables para cualquier pregunta.
> > >>
> > >> * Una jaqueca que dura 17 meses es un problema.
> > >> Vayan al medico.
> > >>
> > >> * Si algo que dijimos se puede interpretar de dos formas distintas, y una de ellas hace que se entristezcan o se enojen, nuestra intencion era decir la otra.
> > >>
> > >> * TODOS los hombres vemos nada mas 16 colores.
> > >> El durazno es una fruta, no un color.
> > >>
> > >> * Donde haya comezon, nos vamos a rascar.
> > >>
> > >> * La cerveza nos emociona tanto, como las carteras a ustedes.
> > >>
> > >> * Si preguntamos si pasa algo malo y la respuesta es "nada",reaccionaremos como si no pasara nada malo.
> > >> Sabemos que no es cierto, pero no vale la pena molestarse.
> > >>
> > >> * Cual diablos es el color fucsia?
> > >>

Antonio- you are a hoot! I loved the ski tips as well as the translations for me. Although I will not be using the terms you have so vividly given on a daily basis, there is one patient that I would love to have you sitting next to me when he comes in. I am sure that together we could put him in his place. Good luck with the whole wedding thing next summer.
Alex- it's great that you got the first haircut on video. Brian and I have very funny silent movies (3mins.each) of the kids when they were little. Too bad we didn't have the sound. My parents have some great footage of the kids on video though, and we love watching them.
Elena- Congratulations on your engagement. We are happy to hear that all of the changes in your life right now are positive. Good luck and stay happy!
I hope that everyone had a happy Thanksgiving. Now we are headed into the advent season. Wonderful time of the year! Will talk with you all soon.

BOO!(Why do I find myself introducing my messages with "boo!" so often?) Carol, your message was like medicine, balm, bandages and band-aids on a beaten man's bruised and battered body! And a cup of fresh water too!Man, the last time I got beat like that was my first day in the Fleet Marine Force Atlantic when the old salts (Marines who have been in the Fleet for a few years) were going around threatening to beat respect into the boots (Marines fresh out of boot camp), 7 of them actually jumped me and started beating on me because I refused to call them "sir" because "sir" is reserved for officers and, in my book, for older enlisted men. I did send the biggest one of them, Lance Corporal Savage, to sick bay with bruised and fractured ribs, and I did another one of them like a rag doll, Lance Corporal Iacobi, and I did twist another one around, Lance Corporal Calhoun who is the one who was actually poking my chest with his finger before the brawl demanding for me to call them "sir". I said,"No way, man." and backed up against the wall so that no one could grab me from behind. Next thing you know it was "KNOCK!" "KABLOW!"
"SPLAT!" Next day Sargeant Dawkins says to me "Come'ere you Tiger! Let me shake your hand!" The taste of victory was great, but inside I was thinking "Ouch! Ow! Owie, don't touch there!" (George, I hope you enjoyed this Marine talk) Carol, thanks again!(Ouch! Ow! Owie!) All of this was B.C. though, A.D. the Lord intervened every time I was tempted in this area as a young Christian, one time some Airforce flyboys came at some friends and I after saying "Lets roll these punks", but as they approached us to start the brawl, as I turned to face them, its like the Lord, His Spirit, hit them first, I saw the guy that was coming directly at me blink a couple of times like somebody hit him, he looked at the tracts in my hands, and next thing you know these guys are praying with us to recieve Jesus as Lord! Now, those of you who know the rush of adrenaline before a brawl will know that I don't care what, you don't end up praying with those you are about to engage in physical violence with! At any rate, when I became a man I put childish things behind me. All of you who were disturbed by my message, let me tell you I feel your pain, truly! When I got that same message months ago in the mail, I was just as upset as you were, I was sick to my stomack and literally moved to tears and prayer, the memory of my son swimming around in my wife's tummy which I shared with you before was still fresh in my mind, and he didn't even have his first toothies yet or could even crawl at that time, I was very angry except I didn't get upset at Jerry Falwell who sent the letter, or at Ms. Shafer, the eyewitness, I was very upset at the people who do it and at President Clinton for vetoing the ban that Congress had passed on that procedure. Anyway, I will say no more about this matter, and if you say no more, I won't feel compelled to respond.

Georgina, I'm not sure about the peace on earth had they been three wise women instead of three wise men... specially one week out of the month!

Ingrid, thank you for your kind words! I send you a big hug! I send you a big hug too, Cindy P.

Fer, thanks for jumping in!

J.B Say hi to your brother for me too!

Alex J., chismosin, gusto oir de ti otra vez! I am back at your popular request(and Ingrid's).

Tonio, mala onda que no puedas! I may have to go by myself, maybe I'll bring my little boy, since my new baby will be less than a month old then.

Marcie, today lil' Alex got his first hair cut! He sat on my lap with a puzzled look on his face like saying "What's going on?" We got it on video and then I took my family to Outback Steak House to celebrate Lil' Alex' first haircut! At the place where he got his hair cut, they gave us a "firsdt hair cut certificate" and a lock of his baby hair, I shall keep it for years to come!

Alrighty then! A hug to all!

Here's to the war of the sexes:

 An old english teacher was explaining to his students the concept of gender association in the English language. He stated how hurricanes one time were given feminine names and how ships and planes were usually referred to as "she".

A student asked: "What gender is a computer?"

The teacher wasn't certain, so he divided the class into two groups, males in one, females in the other, and asked them to decide if computers should be masculine or feminine and give four reasons why.

The girls concluded that computers should be referred to in the masculine gender because:
1. In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.
2. They have a lot of data but are still clueless!
3. They are supposed to help you solve your problems, but half the time they ARE the problem.
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that, if you had waited a little longer, you could have had a better model.

The boys decided that computers should definitely be referred to in the feminine gender because:
1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic.
2. The naitive language they use to communicate with each other is incomprehensible to everyone else.
3. Even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retreival.
4. As soon as you commit to one, you find yourself spending half your paycheck on accesories for it.

Mugre Homero! Me duele el estomago de tanto reirme de tu respuesta!

Hola a todos....
Tono: I agree with the rest, and believe me I was wanting to write a few of those "albures", but decided not to just to be on the safe side and not to get in trouble like Alex Loya. Lets give him a break now.....

Alex L: Get back into the chat.

Homero y Gordo Matraca: It is great to receive your jokes. Where in the world do you guys come up with so many. Estan buenisimos. Keep sending them.

Ingrid: hola y gracias por estar organizando las finanzas desde LA. Me puedes mandar tu direccion para mandarte el cheque lo antes posible.
ajuarez@quepasa.com o aajuare@qwest.com

Dominic: Come out from hidding and post some messages. If I recall you were the class King, biggest huevon, biggest partier,tiendita King, etc, etc, etc,
We need to hear your input......

We are only 6 months away from our "Pachanga". Everyone make a big effort to send your money ASAP. Its not fair that a few people are taking the responsibility of paying the deposits on their own. I know everyone is going to have big expenses during the holidays, but lets all make an effort to send our payment now for whats going to be a great time.
If anyone knows of other people that are not included in the Class of 81 directory, please send their names and e-mails over. We want everyone to go.

Muchos saludos desde Phoenix AZ...

Georgina,regarding the Three Wise Women... well, you forgot to share with everybody what would they have said when they left...

1. Did you see the sandals Mary was wearing with that gown?
2. That baby doesn't look anything like Joseph!
3. Virgin, my shoe! I knew her in school!
4. Can you believe that they let all of those disgusting animals in there!
5. I heard that Joseph isn't even working right now!
6. And that donkey that they are riding has seen better days too!
7. Want to bet on how long it will take until you get your casserole dish back?

Elena R- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! MUCHAS FELICIDADES!!!!!!! We wish you the best, Y mas te vale invitarnos. ( the whole 1981 class LOL. :)
Poast some pictures.

Georgina M- Si, ya se me quito la gripa. Espero tu llamada. LOL con 3 wise women. :)

Can't catch up now, gotto go...

Fernando - Que buena onda que ya te llegaron. DSisfrutalos, dime cuales te gustaron mas para mandarte mas :)

See ya

Happy turkey day to all of you.

Ingrid & Tirso

Edited by author 11-23-2000 09:56 AM
Ya se me estaba olvidando.
Antonio’s ski tips:
If you do not know how to ski by age 35, do not try.
If someone tries to convince you to do it because “it is easy and simple” just remember what a Mexican always answers if asked if the dish is spicy, “Just a little.” (actually this one could be used as an albur but never mind)
If by any chance you find yourself on a slope after disregarding the first tips:
-Remember that everything that goes up must come down. Everything (eventually). Even by helicopter.
-If someone is coming straight at you, you will not know how to avoid the hit so just laugh. If you are going straight to someone, repeat the tip. (by the way, "someone" can be substituted for "something")
-If you wonder where the breaks are, keep wondering. You need to go down anyways, speed is a minor issue.
-Rocks, trees and hard objects are…well, HARD. Do not fool yourself they are not practical for breaking.
-Parts of your equipment are extremely faulty. Your whole body. Particularly the knees.
-Never try to ski for your first time in Bulgaria or you will never want to ski anymore in your life.
-Einstein was right, time is relative. One minute can feel like a lifetime.
-A bath is to be taken in a bath not a slope.
-Never fall because if you do, you will not get up.
-And finally, always remember that at the end of the tunnel (because it will feel like one even when it is white) there is beer, fondue, hot coffee and a soft surface (because snow is not soft do not let them fool you).
And when a five year old laughs at your face, never, and I mean never, ever let your head down. Unless you are down already and your head is pinned down.

Antes que nada, Happy Thanksgiving. If there is a single event I miss with a passion since I am not living in the USA anymore is this date. I envy all of you.

Regarding the reunion: Ya sabía que algunos iban a mentar madres. (Direct translation: I knew some of you would name mothers. HA! It does not sound right does it. Marcie: avoid this expression unless you are with “cuates” = but it actually means to complain)

Fernando I will not answer your “majaderia” (Marcie: to include in your vocabulary = rudeness, rude comment) of the dog with an “albur” (Marcie: another one for you = dirty joke by playing with words, that is, if I was to respond to Fernando with an “albur”, I would answer “remojame otra cosa” but then again this is not the place to write these things (ask someone else for this last translation I am too embarrassed to do it)) because this is a public message board. Yes, I am Mexican and excuses “no faltan”. I do not want to promise a thing. I will try to coordinate that Telcel decides to purchase our products by that time. If anyone has any contacts with Telcel (Telmex) purchasing let me know. (Just joking.) Remember I work in a small family owned company (Papa is CEO France, Mama is Admin. Director of the whole group, Daughter is CEO in USA, I am starving, working like a slave and the family dogs travel all the time wherever we go. Now try to get away with it?!?!). It is not Sony, you know. (By the way, I tried to call you yesterday and a lady told me you were on meetings all day. Meetings my ….!!!! Do not filter your calls! Only Vicente Fox would be more difficult to contact. I think he is helping with the vote counting in Florida, I heard he was hired by Georgie to create a “chanchullo”. (Marcie: =cheating incident, as in PRI for 75 years in the Mexican presidency.))

Cindy PM: Otra “majadera” igual que Fernando. (Marcie. = rude person in female; other synonyms: pelada, verdulera, grosera, ordinaria). Look I found about this several months ago. If you knew how much I have been pressing him to change the date you would not call me a “huevon.” (Marcie: this last word I believe we all know by heart after AHS) I was in Mexico in October (alumni in Mexico, please do not complain, I was busy as hell) and spend a full weekend with him trying to convince him and was not successful. My brother, a native “chilango” has lived in Veracruz for 10 years and is marrying “Jarocho” style and a girl from Veracruz. (Marcie: Mexico City native = “chilango” and is hated by everyone in the country (including chilangos themselves) due to his annoying attitude of knowing it all, having all the answers and power, abusing it, pushy, etc., etc. Veracruz native = “jarocho” and is stubborn like a mule, does not give a hoot about other people other than his native peers, hates anything and everything foreign outside his state’s boundaries, and reason and logic are two words scratched off their dictionary.) So, the wedding is set to July 20, end of discussion. Plus I am witness for the wedding, Delphine my wife is “madrina” of I do not know what, Biddy and Liam my children will do something else in the wedding (I believe stepping on the brides dress or most probably have a conversation on how funny looking the clothes these “provincianos” (Marcie = anything outside the cool look of a “chilango”) are wearing including their own mother who was forced to wear this tasteless dress when she had already planned to bring a dress from Paris, and what is this deal of weddings where people decide for you the dresses, and are inconsiderate of dates specially when we are the ones that have to travel across the world and the trip will cost double when we could go in May and go to your reunion also, and in a place hotter than hell in the summer, without talking of the humidity that is worse than a hammam (Marcie = this one is Arab French you do not have to worry about it, = Arab sauna), etc. etc. etc.)) Catch my drift Cindy? By the way, regarding the, and I quote, “fat, slobbery drunk Texan”, I forgive you. (Just joking, I am fat and slobbery but not too drunk and not a Texan at all)
 
Ramon: thanks for your understanding and thanks for the thought of the Preview Party.

Besos y abrazos
Toño

Ya se me estaba olvidando... Pinche Toño!! Si no vas a la reunión te voy a mandar a mi perro a que le de una remojadita a tu pierna!!! Remember you are Mexican after all, so I am sure you can come up with all sorts of excuses as to why it is imperative for you to make yet another business trip to Mexico towards the end of May!

Happy Thanks giving to all!

Ingrid - Y E S ! ! ! THEY ARRIVED TODAY!! Muchas gracias por los cacahautes!! A mi se me hace que después de la bola de pensamientos negativos que expresamos hacia el cartero le dio remordimiento y decidio mejor siempre sí entregármelos. (Muchas gracias señor cartero... ¡Dios se lo ha de pagar y premiar con muchos hijos Oaxacos!) Ya te llevaré tus chocolates, you wait and see.

Elena - Congrats right back. Good for you!

Ramon: Good ski tip, easy question!! Claro que es el jacuzzi con unos tragitos preferibles que tengan alcol.
What great areas to ski!! I actually don't downhill anymore I telemark and stay away from the moguls--it isn't a pretty sight to be splayed across a mogul when your boot tips are strapped into cables...Green tea and a robe? No hodes!!<Try a hot toddy or a brewski (Am. for "beer") and butt naked>. At least in Japan you probably don't have a bunch of fat, slobbery, drunk Texans (their wives have fur hats on in the hot tub) trying to hit on you while you soak!! Thanks for all of your work on the reunion..I just e-mailed you.

Tonio--no seas un huevon! Tell your brother he has to move his wedding date!! I was wanting to hear more stories about your front lawn, French kissing, and more wonderful stories about your children!

To all: Happy Turkey Day

PS: If anyone of us has become(or has married) a Fat, slobbery drunk Texan, I apologize ...

Hello Everybody:
Alex L.: No manches! no furhter discussion.

Please refer to the Dale´s Web Page for an update on the Reunion. It is very important to get the ball rolling on finances, we need to make the deposit this year in order for us to freeze prices. We are planning a great reunion and hope most people are able to attend. Please also check a new service by Citibank www.c2it.com, to send money via e-mail.

Toño: que pena que no vienes, pero cuando vengas a Mexico nos hablas y hacemos un Preview Party.

Ingrid: Me dio mucho gusto conocer a Tirso es un gran hombre te felicito.

JB: excellent work my boy, please give us Texas and California, back.

Cindy: great topic to get into, Skiing has been my passion since I started in Austria at age 15, at a place called Zurs not to be missed, although Innsbruck, Zermatt, Garmish Partenkirchen, Grenoble are also great. One place where I really loved skiing was in Isuchi Village, about 2 hours via Bullet Train from Tokyo, I bet many of you did not know there was skiing so close to Japans main city, neither did we, but when we arrived all sign were in Kanji and almost nobody spoke English, the funniest part was trying to rent Skis and Boots. There instead of Chilli and Hot Chocolate you get Soba(Noodles) and Green Tea(Or Kirin Beer=) in the Mountain, and instead of Bar hopping you go to Karaoke Bars in you Robe(don´t ask).
Ramón´s ski Tip of the month: One of the most important things to do before going skiing is to do simple excercises, such as Cindy´s. Use the sidewalk(an aerobics step will do) to jump up and down with borth feet together and then do the same on the way back.
Ramón´s Ski trivia of the month: What is the best part of Skiing?
Happy Thanksgiving to every body, and let thank god for our health.

Ramón

OK people, this is the situation for me. I know I am going to get an ugly call from Fernando (Europe coordinator) but well that is the way it is.

The chances for me to attend the reunion in late May are slim to none. My beloved brother has decided to get married on Friday July 20 in Veracruz, Mexico thus forcing us to concentrate all our traveling investments to the American continent around this date.

A business trip excuse to Mexico was a possibility but I will be in the USA for a trade show in March (plus the trip to Mexico in July). Most probably I will be sent to Mexico to pay our contacts a visit. Conclusion: I am out of excuses to propose a business trip in May. To be honest I am very frustrated and it has shown by my stopping of messages. Sorry. Enough said.

I know it has been a while since my last message (apart from my message right after Alex Loya’s little gift). And NO!!!!!! I am not discussing the issues.

Alex Loya: do not disappear.

JB: welcome home. I do not remember you but it does not matter since you are back. By the way, thanks for the “Notice of Revocation of Independence” it was a great hit around the company.

Sat Kaur: I sincerely hope you can make it to the reunion and say hi to Laura for me.

One of my daily rituals every morning is to read this board. Please continue adding to it.

Toño

Elena: Congratulations! Nothing like being in love! Perhaps you'll post some pictures.

I totally agree with Carol and Fer.! I support freedom of speech, 100%. Anybody should be allowed to write whatever they want and express their point of view. However, please consider that freedom of speech applies both to speaker and audience. You can't possibly expect to post a message on any controversial subject and not get a response, especially if you are addressing and ASF audience! So, if you're going to light a fire, be prepared to take the heat!

Ana: Es necesario hacer reservaciones para el hotel a traves de ustedes (para dar el deposito genral al hotel) o prefieren que hablemos directo al hotel?

Ingrid: Manana me voy a Illinois para Thanksgiving. No he hablado con Shelly. Que tal si nos hablamos el fin de semana? Yo regreso el sabado en la manana. Ya se te quito la gripa? Espero que si.

For all the girls:
Do you know what would have happened if it had been Three Wise Women instead of Three Wise Men?

1. They would have asked for directions,
2. Arrived on time,
3. Helped deliver the baby,
4. Cleaned the stable,
5. Made a casserole,
6. Brought practical gifts,
7. and there would be peace on earth!

Edited by author 11-22-2000 01:02 AM
All this talk about politics reminds me of the 1981 Mock US Election at the AHS. Do any of you remember it? I was the Democratic Chairman and I worked so hard making posters, debating, and even got my 15 minutes of fame on "VIP Radio" and Mexican TV. Carter beat Reagan in the mock elections, although we know the real elections had a different outcome! I look back at this with pride (the AHS was heavily Republican at the time) and regret (since my views have changed since that time). It is ironic that just a few years after the mock election, I came to realize that the Democratic party plataform did not coincide with my values. I have changed and the Democratic party has changed, each of us going in opposite directions.

Along with this, I have to say that I truly respect Alex for sharing of himself and his concerns with us. On one hand, I believe in the right to freedom of speech. On the other, I know where Alex is coming from and share his frustrations. I have volunteered at a Crisis Pregnancy Center for 7 years now, and aside from the loss of innocent human life, I have seen the devastation that abortion has had on women and on our culture as a whole. I too look forward to the day when this country once again respects life from the moment of conception to natural death.

This is where the elections come in. Not only will the new president have a direct impact on this and other important issues, but he will appoint several Supreme Court Justices who will be on the bench for many, many years to come and their decisions will have a major impact on our country.

I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving. Carol

Hola todos. Sorry I have been out of touch but I have had a full plate lately. I got engaged on Sept. 10 to a fabulous man I met at my company (he has since left to another firm) We started at the company the same day and share the same birthday, as such we will marry on our birthdays on Jan. 31. A cruise from Valparaiso Chile down around Cape Horn as our honeymoon. I've also decided to change jobs (once again to be working with my fiance). And I've just moved into our home (yes early, but all the animals -3 cats, a dog and parrot - were too hard to manage when we shuffled between two homes). So new job, new home, new fiance, and new animal children. Please note my new home address is now 6509 Cypress Point Drive, Plano, TX 75093 and my new email is erohweder@dcpworld.com.

I know I'm not the only one with news so congrats Fernando!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

REUNION '81 UPDATE
Dale has updated the Reunion '81 webpage. We are currently taking early payments which will help with the $5,000.00 down payment. For this updated information please refer to www.muffin.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.htm

Fernando and Ingrid: Que envidia les tengo!! I have skiied Colorado and Chile, but never Europe. Time to get those butts and quads pumping!! I will give a new exercise or ski tip every few weeks or so.

Fer: as far as drinking, buddy you are on your own! I'm a nursing mom--and the thought of taking care of a baby with a hangover is a little much for me. That's why I'm bringing my mom to reunion so that she can do the "abuelita thing" and take care of the baby why my husband and I can recover from all of the desmadre on Friday nite.

Edited by author 11-21-2000 02:28 PM
Cindy P-

Gracias for the skiing tip. I love to ski! I will start today.



Fernando F-

Que poca del cartero. Pero puede que te lleguen los paquetes vacios, avisame. LOL Te los envie, y me los regresaron. Fui al Post Office, y ahora si te tienen que llegar. Let me know. Where in the Italian alps? My husband and I will spend X-Mas in Spai, but we want to go skiing for the new years. We were thinking of the 3 peaks. In 1999 we went to Baqueira Beret in Spain, we had a blast! But we don't want to go back there. We will be leaving for Europe around Dec. 20th, avisame si quieres que te lleve algo.







Reunion topic-



Have we found other classmates? What is the price for the weekend?







Saludos,



Ingrid

Cindy, Kelly, all,
I agree with your comments on how disturbing Alex's message was - I too as a new parent felt a deep void in my stomach as I was reading it. I further agree that it was way too graphic for all practical purposes, and for the sake of good taste. This is where I drop the subject. 'nough said.

Ingrid - AAAhhh, no I have not received los dichosos cacahuates. A mi se me hace que un cartero belga se los está despachando sin ninguna vergúenza y sin remordimiento alguno... ¡Que poca!

Cindy - Although I skied for the 1st time in my life only some 5 years ago, and then never too often due to lack of time, I do enjoy it tons. I am planning a trip to the Italian Alps towards the end of January to celebrate Nat's big 30 B-Day. As of tonight I start with the prescribed exercise!!! Now the question is, do you have any recomendations to build satmina on the drinking front? You know how those ski trips can turn out.

Man, I am going to miss the turkey again this year! I guess these Europeans are just not thankful.... Save me a drum stick!!!!

Fernando: Great to hear you are doing well! I am glad Oliver is doing better..it's absolutely wonderful when babies begin to smile and reach out to touch you--if he hasn't done so he will in the next few weeks!! We will be looking forward to meeting him at the reunion. I agree with Kelly's comment on Alex. The class of '80 also requested that he keep the more controversial stuff in his own message board which he created which is titled, "About God". His abortion message was meant to "shock"..and I had my 6 month old on my lap when read that-. This really is not the appropriate message board to go into such a heated topic. We are all adults here..we can take some discord..but that topic, if people want to address it, should be a subtopic..By reading the comments posted afterwards it appears that the majority of our classmates don't want to be apart of that topic.

And now, to the lighter side....

Cindy's SKI TIP OF THE MONTH....
You need good Quad and Glut strength to ski--..For those of you whom will try some skiing this year (the snow here is awesome this year!!) this is a great exercise:
1. Stand with your feet shoulder width apart with your butt and back against the wall. Your feet should be placed about 2 feet away from the wall. Tighten your stomach muscles, and slowly slide your butt down the wall until your knees are bent to a 120 to a 90 degree angle. Hold the position for 10 to 20 seconds, return to the starting position. You should try working to holding the position for several minutes If you are a serious skier, you can work up to holding the position for 15 minutes. You WILL feel a burn in your butt. If your knees bother you, rotate your feet out a little. Stretch before and after.

Kelly S-
Yes! Thank you, I got your check. And... more cacahuates are on the way.

Fernando Fuentes-
I got it. Did you get the cacahuates? Que bueno que ya estan en casa nueva y que el baby ya no llora tanto.

Marcie M-
Congratulations for Erin.

To all, happy turkey day.

Ingrid - Yeah!!! Thanks so much. Did you get my check?

Fernando - what an exciting life you are leading! An amazing place to live, and a new baby, to boot! Congrats on all accounts. I don't think anyone was jumping on Alex personally, nor do we want this chat page to just cover the superficial...however, his particular topic was a little too graphic and horrifying, and just didn't merit a place on this page. To say you are pro or con life is one thing, to upset a whole lot of folks with the graphics is another. I think everyone is open to any kind of debate on the general (politics, religion, etc.), but the specifics don't need to be so disturbing. I'm a Mom of 3 amazing kids, and I couldn't sleep after I read that posting!!! On the lighter side...I hope your baby continues to cry less for you and that you and your wife settle in to your new lifestyle and surroundings! Congrats again!

FYI- 'tiened' was a type-o. Haha.

Hey everyone, it has been a long time since I have checked in, so I thought I would give a little update. I am now working at a new job! I am very excited about it because after being in the same dental office for five years, it seemed to be the same ho-hum, dreading work some days. I will still be in a dental office, but for a great boss!! He is a very mellow and wonderful person. He had someone call me from his office to see if I would come in to interview for the position because I know spanish. I thought it wouldn't hurt to check it out, so because he offered me a better package all the way around, and the chance to re-learn spanish and use it, Heck Yeah! I am loving this job. About 50% of our patients are Hispanic people and the Dr (a Mexican) says they like it when we speak to them in spanish. I know I sound like a rambling babbler, but I am having a great time. It is amazing, and very sad, that I have forgotten most of what I learned. The awesome thing though, is that it comes flooding back. I just remind some of our patients que tiened que hablar un poquito mas despacio!
Erin is coming home for the Thanksgiving holiday, and bringing a girl friend home with her. I can't wait to see her, as it has been over three weeks since she has been home. I have to brag for just a sec here, okay? Erin has a 4.0 in college now. I am very happy for her, and so proud of her for sticking with it. I hope to be able to say that for her next nine years of college!!
I always look forward to the holidays. It has snowed a bit in the last four days and it is pretty. Gets me in the mood to shop!!
Anaceci- I wasn't sure if Mike Lucas' email address was on our website, so here it is.. mlucas@esinet.net
I haven't been in touch with too many class mates, just Ann Constantino, Lee Constantino ('80), Gunnar Hood ('80) and Mike Lucas.
So everybody, have a great Thanksgiving, even if you are not in the US. We have so much to be THANKFUL for. Hugs.

Hey gang,

Good to be back.

Well the news from our side is that we are more or less settled in Belgium.

Quick summary:

As you all know I started working with Sony from the 1st of October on. During all of that month I lived in a hotel while Nathalie and the baby were in Holland with Nat’s parents. That meant that I had to travel back and forth between Belgium and Holland every weekend. Needless to say I was getting tired of it after a month.

In any case, Nat & I had been looking for a house at the beginning of October, and we found one after a week of looking - poor Nathalie, she must have seen some 35 different houses in total! Finally we decided on a house she had seen during the first day of house hunting. The house is pretty nice, although it is in fact a bit big for us (5 rooms), but this implies we have plenty of space for guests - hint, hint! It is about 30 minutes southeast of Brussels (Needless to say, after years of leaving in Mexico City I really do not enjoy living inside cities any more). Our garden is not huge, but it is right next to a small pond, surrounded by some woods in which we have already seen several deer. Our neighbors are 3 ponies, and the rest of our human neighbors seem to be nice, although we have not had time to meet them all since we just moved in two weeks ago. So, our new info is:

Fernando, Nathalie, and Oliver Fuentes
Wolfshagen 42
3040 Huldenberg
Belgium

Home Phone: +32 16 262805
E-mail: Without change (i.e. fnfuentes@yahoo.com)

Office Phone: +32 2 706-4475

If any of you should come to this side of the woods, you are more than cordially invited to stay with us.

On the baby front I am happy to report that yes, after 3 months the crying has almost stopped. Although he still has his bad days I am not complaining – not at all! I guess I am getting used to it, and besides, in comparison to the beginning this is heaven. He usually goes to bed by 8:30 wakes up at around 11:00 for his bottle, and then sleeps till around 6:30. He now spends most of his time trying to talk (no Toño, I have not forgot what you said and I am not pushing him to talk as soon as possible), smiling, and playing. Cindy, Hellen, Marcie, Toño, Alex L., and to all who have posted words of encouragement, a big THANKS!!!! Now lets see if he will be ready to take a 12:00 plus hour beating to make the trip to Mexico for our reunion in May when he is 9 months old. We’ll just have to wait and see.

And finally, changing the subject.. I just wanted to point out that I disagree with some of the comments being posted. Granted, what our friend Alex Loya posted was not one of the most pleasant messages ever written, and personally I did not like it at all, but to jump on him the way some of you did is not fair either. I mean, are we saying that we are only allowed to post messages that are not controversial in any way? And if so, who will be the one appointed official censor? And what will his guidelines be? Who is to say that there are not other topics that might be O.K. with some but not with some others, and then what do we do? Are we really interested in limiting this message board to pleasant jokes (careful here, there are some jokes that could be offensive to some) and nice stories? I thought we all said at the beginning that we are all friends here, even family, and is it not part of life to have different points of view and some times, God forbid, even arguments among friends and family? Haven’t we all had conflicting points of view and arguments with some of our closest most loved ones? So why ban them here? Or are we trying to put ourselves in a hermetical bubble, sterilized from everything that would potentially be upsetting to someone? What I suggest is that so as long as it is not a direct insult to one of us it is allowed. Then, if someone reads something they strongly disagree about they can do like in real life – ignore it! Or better yet, comment on why you disagree with it. But it is not fair to tell someone not to post this type of messages. Otherwise we risk ending up in a fantasy-world community.

Well, till next time, you all take care.

Kelly S -
Tomorrow, I will mail you more cacahuates.

Anacecilia -
Que bueno que ya empesaron los ticket sales!!!! Dime, how much a ticket para abrir la cuenta aqui en LA.

Cindy P-
I'm glad you enjoyed the egg story.

JB-
Thank you for the bio. I kind of remember you. My brothers name is John, he was class of1980.

Alex Loya-
Please don't leave the chat. We do appreciate your participation; we just don't appreciate your personal ÉI don't know what to call them.
You are our friend and classmate. Life has many turns, and we have to keep going forward. Chill out and join us again. You don't need to away, satay with us.

Georgina M-
Que bueno que te la pasaste super en la boda. Congrats para tu hermano. So when are we going to get together????? I'm here in LA tillÉ.. I sent my housekeeper to the Philippines because her brother is dyingÉ so now I'm alone with the houseÉporque no vienes a comer y apasar el dia por aca? Have you talked to Shelly L?

Anacecilia: How about mailing addresses? I have addresses for a few people, that I don't have actual e-mails for. Are we just working off an e-mail list, or does the 70 include mailers too?

Hola todos! Acabo de regresar de Cabo San Lucas en donde mi hermano Julio se caso con Irina. Beautiful wedding. Great party. I saw Gaby Bino, Stephanie Selesnik, Felipe Fuentes, Jeff Sultan, and Alex Campos. We had a blast! Lost track of how many tequila shots, margaritas, and champagne we had! Mrs Florio was also there! Irina was a beautiful bride and Julio was the happiest groom.

Alex L: Which part of this do you not understand? Drop it! Debes de ser masoquista. If you keep having this compeling need to write about your own ideas/propaganda about religion and abortion, go create your own chat room!

Ingrid: Me encanto tu chiste! Great to read after reading Alex's bs!

Kelley, Thanks for asking. The answer....A LOT. The list at the web site has 70 names, our graduation class was of 200 and we are also inviting and including those who didn't graduate, so we really have a lot of people lost.

If any of you know of lost classmate's whereabouts, please let Dale know so he can update the list.

Dale will be updating the web page with ticket sale information.

WE HAVE STARTED THE TICKET SALE !!

If you are planning to attend the reunion, please buy your tickets now. (It will be less expensive for you, and it will help us make down payments, ensure the quality of the event and get better deals.

We are planning for 150 people, but the more, the merrier!

Ingrid - Thanks SOOO much! I owe you one...or more!

Alex - everyone is entitled to their opinions, but this page is a fun way for everyone to reconnect with their cuates from years gone by...it's a forum for us to get to know one another again - or for the first time! If I wanted to be tuned in to the attrocities of the world, I'd pick up my paper or turn on the t.v. That's not what this "class of 81" address it about. Enough said.

Anaceci - How many people from our class are "unaccounted for", or are "missing", that we need to start locating?

Ingrid, Ingrid, Ingrid!! THAT was tooo funny..I did pass that on

Loya: Your '81 classmates have asked you not to discuss abortion or religion in this message board. Please respect our wishes and move on!

Itzi: I had e-mailed you a Class of '81 reunion survey a few weeks ago but your e-mail was returned. Can you please make sure the address on the Reunion web page is correct?
That website is the following:
http://muffin.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.htm
Thanks!

Hi everyone!Nice to contact,my phone numbers 5379-6144,5251-6441,Im all ears,ciao!

Ingrid, you may not remember me, I spent about two years at AHS but did not graduate with you guys, I left for Miami.
Mu name is Jean-Bernard Diederich, but you all called me John Diederich. I have a brother Phillippe and a sister Natalie, both younger.
I am an Independent Executive Producer in Miami, and have developed programming for Telemundo, MGM Latin America, HGTV, etc. English and Spanish.
Now I dabble in the Internet too. I went to Boy Scouts with Loya, and hung around with Carlos Noriega, William Muench, Eduardo Lozano, and the Westons who lived in my neighborhood. I went to grammar school at Peterson's with Richie Salinas, Greggy Taylor etc.
Anyway, sounds to me like you are on a cool path, doing what you like.
I am currently enjoying an occasional nostalgia trip.
I spoke to M Bueler a couple of days ago, and he has lived no more than 12 blocks from me and neither knew. Small world.
I think you have a brother dont you?
By the way, Pobre Huevo!
Cheers
JB

JB Diederich- Hello there. What does JB stand for? I still can't figure out who you are. I am Script Supervising and starting to Produce, ( like everyone else here in LA) LOL.
 Tu que haces? Yo vivi en Miami, I am a Uof M alumni.
I LOVED the notice of revocation,
can you imagine? LOL. I agree, maybe Disney should be shipped to the Floridas.

Kelly Sherck- I will mail out some more PLAIN cacahuates for yolu today. Enjoy!!!

Alex Loya - Live and let live! Alex,let people do and vote as they wish. AGAIN,
el respeto al derecho ageno es la paz. Thank you for sharing, butÉ please refrain from future shares.

If you think life is bad.......How would you like to be an egg?

You only get laid once.
You only get eaten once.
It takes 4 minutes to get hard.
Only 2 minutes to get soft.
You share your box with 11 other guys.
But worst of all.....
The only chick that ever sat on your
face was your mother.
So cheer up.....Your life ain't that bad!!!
Pass it around to someone who you feel
can use a good lay, I mean day.

Amigos, have a good one.

Hey, why not send Disneyland to Disney World and make them one. Push them about 130 miles South to Palm Beach whhere the whole thing is Mickey Mouse anyway.
Cheers.
JB

Cool JB... Hey, does that mean Mexico gets back Texas, California and the rest of the southwest? Do we get to keep Disneyland or should we ship it somewhere?...

I have it on a good source that Haiti, Panama & Bosnia are sending international observers to make sure the vote goes well in Palm Beach... They'll be staying at the Breakers.

Loya... My brother Phil says Hi.

Hey! Did I just blow it again with my little joke about Al Gore?

Ouch! Apparently I touched a raw nerve ending! I fail to see why you are offended at me, I guess you must have misunderstood me... I am not the one who commits such atrocities, I am simply making you aware of what is happening everyday and of what your vote, if you are a U.S. citizen, has either promoted or helped end. And that nurse, Brenda Pratt Shafer, was not being mean either, she was simply telling Congress of something that goes on everyday so that somebody will stop this atrocity. Evidently, your one vote did count to either promote this or stop it, and it saddens me very much to see that you would rather stop your ears and shut your eyes to the horrible suffering of fully viable babies, like your own and like you yourself used to be, than to do something to put an end to this horrible holocaust that is happening every day in your hometown. I hesitated to post that message, because I knew that it would ruffle some feathers, but this election was so crucial, and this atrocity so real, that I was willing to risk the dislike of those I love rather than to keep silent and fail to speak for those more innocent than I who can not speak for themselves. Hmmm... I just wonder what you feel is more uncalled for, me telling you of what is happening and calling out for you to help the helpless, or them actually committing this horrible crime and making it legal for the sake of money? I wonder which, really, is uncalled for? I am confident, however, that you will do just fine and you will survive my brief assault on your sensitivities, but those precious babies won't survive our apathy and lack of love and care. I still love you though, although I know I am not your candidate for "most popular" in the class of 81, but I do love you!

J.B. At least I splashed my face (and brushed my teeth, thank you), just about everyone else in the Boy Scouts didn't even do that much! I don't believe its necessary for us to bring ourselves, as U.S. Citizens, back under British rule, I think we would do just fine if we just had Al Gore arrested for treason in accepting cash from those that have threatened to nuke us (the Chinese)... either that or get him a job on Saturday Night Live as the pathological liar... yeah, that's right!...

Boy thats something that we want to do as U.S. citizens fall under the rule of the British. We left that mess over 200 years ago. The only reason the United Kingdom survives is because of the support of the west. The brits were lucky to win the Falkland Island war. Thank god that the Argentians were using faulty and antiquated italian torpedoes.

Wow! I haven't logged on in about a week, and things certainly got heavy while I was away! Yikes! I was very excited to see info on our reunion in the last AHS magazine..makes it seem like it's just around the corner...time to get on that stair master!

Ingrid - I caught your note about the abundance of cacahuates. I LOVE the plain ones (not the sal y limon kind), so would be thrilled if you'd part with some more. I actually mailed you a check (I'm late - so sorry!) yesterday, for the last batch you sent. Thanks again!

NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America:

In the light of your failure to elect anybody as President of the USA and
thus to govern yourselves and, by extension, the free world, we hereby give
notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial duties over
all states, commonwealths and other territories including New Jersey.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, please comply with
the following acts:

1. Look up "revocation" in the now official Oxford Dictionary ($75). Start
spelling English words correctly.

2. Learn at least the first 4 lines of "God Save The Queen"

3. Start referring to "soccer" as football.

4. Declare war on Quebec and France

5. Arrest Mel Gibson for treason

6. Close down the NFL. Learn to play rugby

7. Enjoy warm flat beer and steak and kidney pudding. Train waitresses to be
more aggressive with customers and not to tell you their names before you
eat.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday; this has been replaced with
November 5th

9. All members of this British Crown Dependency will be required to take 6
weeks annual vacation and observe statutory tea breaks.

10.Driving on the left is now compulsory - recall all cars to effect the
change immediately.

11.Report to our Consulate General in NY - M Wragg - for your new passport
and job allocation.

12. Have Meg Ryan report to the Prince Andrew's Bedchamber.

13. Add the Royal insignia to the top of the Washington Monument - and the
Queen's Christmas speeches to the Lincoln Memorial.

14. Stop referring to the World Series of Baseball and instead call it the
National Series of USA, Cuba and Japan.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to
ensure the acquisiton of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice day!

Why not let the whole country revote. In a typical election there are around 5 percent of ballots thrown out because of discrepancies. The Florida ballot in fact was legal because it was a paper ballot not a machine ballot. That statue only applies to mechanical ballots. By doing a revote you are trying to recreate history. People made a mistake, life goes on.

Much of the world is quite amused with this election 2000 thing. Sorry but this really has the US looking like a Banana Republic... well, that would be a big Banana.
Regardless of who ends up at the White House, this will require a total revision of the way elections done. Probably time to drop the Electoral vote system and join the advanced democracies that consider Popular Vote instead. It's also necessary to establish mechanisms to make sure small parties have a place in Congress.
I think that the 43rd President (Bush or Gore) is having a bad start, he'll have an unclear and weak mandate and will probably get all the blame and fallout of a slowing economy. That's a job I wouldn't want... I'm sure none of you would either.

Edited by author 11-10-2000 06:52 PM
Ingrid: It is always good to hear from you. I was glad you brought up the polical thing. I trust that, as adults, we can all participate in a mature political discussion without insulting anyone's belief system.....
It's great to be a witness of political history. I do see both sides of the West Palm Beach thing. Personally, I can see why the ballot is confusing...it is my understanding that it did not meet the criteria for a paper ballot (all candidates are supposed to be on one side) but it did seem to meet the criteria for an electronic ballot. However, whether one thinks its confusing or not, 19,000 ballots is satistically significant. I know it has been mentioned that 14,000 ballots where thrown out 4 years ago. This am on the Today Show the election commisioner for that county said that 14,000 included the people whom DID NOT VOTE and the ballots that where thrown out. This year the total for the people whom did not vote plus the ballots that where thrown out is 30,000.
On one hand, I would like to see a revote. However, I do see how this could lead to a nationwide presidence and possible chaos. A recount was demanded by Florida law, however, as we have see, the Bush camp has now demanded recounts in 3 other states--and the differences there where between 3,000 and not 5,000--not 1700... And then there also is a possibility that people will now change their vote--ie instead of Nader, they will now vote for Gore.
I am not sure how this will turn out....but think about it! This is the year 2000. Why are we still punching out holes with all of the modern technology? We have palm pilots, the internet, touch screens---you would think we would modernize the way we vote. It's a little embarassing to be the world leader and we are still using 19th century voting methods. Thanks for the website, I will check it out.

Edited by author 11-10-2000 03:25 PM
This list is great.... Hope you are all well!

Jodi, You are Jeniffer's sister arent you? can you send me her e-mail adderss or her general whereabouts?.

Ingrid Urich-Sass - glad to see you are well, what are you doing, producing?

Alex Loya.... Me da gusto saber que estas bien... Espero que hayas aprendido a lavarte la cara.... Me acuerdo en La Marquesa con los Boy Scouts que solo te salpicabas la cara... En fin, veo que la sigues de esplorador. Felicidades !!!

Javier Arizmendi, I saw your sister Yareli about 6 years ago after Como Agua Para Chocolate. I flew her and her husband for a show I was producing here in Miami I was thrilled to see her, she had not changed a bit. How is she? and where? And by the way...Do you have Richi Salinas whereabouts? I would love to contact him.

Does anyone have Eduardo Lozano or Carlos Noriega.s e-mail address ?????

Saludos a todos.... Back to counting ballots!
Be well,
gracias,
JB

Edited by author 11-10-2000 12:28 PM
Alex Loya- Please refrain from using this fabulous chat to share your political/ religeous opinions. Posiblemente te funcione en tus sermoines, pero no aqui.Remember who we are, be respectful to us and to yourself! Guardate tus opiniones para un private e-mail, no para publicarlos en este chat!
El respeto al derecho ageno es la paz.

Homero Menchaca - Beautiful!!!

Georgina Marquez - LOL - Well, now I am jobless hahahahah - con una gripa espantosa!!!! Waiting to find out who is going to be President of USA, and waiting to find out what will be my next job. :)

Anacecilia - Para RSVP, Tirso y yo atenderemos TODOS los eventos.

I am happy this is happening with the election in USA. It is about time people woke up to smell the roses. What does eveyone think?

The following is a copy of an e-mail a very known actor sent me, that I would like to share with you:
No matter how you feel about the presidential election, who you wanted to
win, who you didn't, the situation in West Palm Beach is one we should all
be concerned about. Clearly (and this isn't just my Democratic eyes seeing),
it was a bad ballot, and illegal under Florida Election Laws. Let whoever
wins, win fairly, with a true count of the vote, cast in an unambiguous way.
A re-vote in West Palm, limited only to voters who voted the first time
around, would remove whatever taint the election has, and allow the victor
to be truly, unambiguously victorious.

In a less closely contested election, irregularities like this are not
usually an issue, they pass quietly under the bridge. But in this
historical time, a higher degree of precision is called for, and since
serious doubts have been raised, it is in the best interests of all, and of
the country itself, for the vote to be honestly and fairly gotten.

Visit the site below to send a letter to the Florida election commissioner
urging a fair re-vote. It only takes about 30 seconds to do. This is your
chance to act for fairness in this, the most important civil liberty issue
of all, your right to vote.


http://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?itemid=9237


Please forward this to anyone who you feel will want to act.



Back to the subject of the reunion......
For those of you USA residents who are ready to send in your payment for the reunion... mail your checks to

Ingrid Urich-Sass
1904 Fox Hills Dr.
Los Angeles, CA 90025

All checks MUST be IN and CLEARED 2 weeks before the reunion. If not, the price to pay at the door will be higher than what is quoted. Thank you

Saludos, Ingrid

Oye Alex Loya.... Glad to see you are well.

Jodi Philpot.... Wow, so many years.

This is a real find. How are you all doing? Do you remember me?

I'm living in Miami (Banana Republic) sorry gotta go to help count the ballots. Ha!

Write me: TVoptions@aol.com
Muchos Saludos a todos.

Hola todos: Creo que voy a ir a la reunión en Mayo, pero no estoy 100% segura todavía. Depende de muchas cosas, pero tengo la intención de ir. Obviamente no puede decir todavía a qué eventos. Hable con Laura Gonzalez-Campoy (Richardson) la semana pasada y ella quiere también ir. También no sabe se va a poder, pero va a tratar!

Estoy de acuerdo... no discutamos política ni religión.

Saludos!

Alguien sabe algo de Maribel Sarabia o de Alejandra Alvarado?

Ingrid: Que schedule tan impresionante! Ahora puedo presumir de que tengo una amiga muy importante en el show biz world! Respondiendo a Anaceci's request for RSVP: John y yo vamos a asisitir de seguro a la fiesta del viernes en la noche, al school tour, y a la taquiza del sabado despues del tour. Las demas actividades dependen de si consigo baby sitter. Vamos a traer a los ninos al tour y a la taquiza. Let me know cuanto dinero te mando y adonde. Que tal si nos juntamos el martes 12 de diciembre?

I think its time we remember the FIRST rule of "Mexican Social Etiquette": Nunca se discute religion, politica o... futbol!

Hey everybody, please reply to your ComCom leader's encuesta. We really need a fast aprox. count on next years event. We're approaching down payment time. Gracias

Homero: Good one!

Alex: You're so far off. Get a clue! Don't forget that you are addressing an ASF crowd and not some group of follower's. Use some common sense!

Nothing like a quick joke to bring back the fun to this place...
 
A married man left for work early one Friday afternoon. Instead of going home, however, he squandered the weekend (and his paycheck) partying with the boys.

When he finally returned home on Sunday night, he ran into a barrage of epithets from his wife. After a couple of hours of nagging and berating, his wife asked "How would you like it if you didn't see me for a couple of days?!?"

"That would suit me just fine!!" the man said.
 
Monday went by, and the man didn't see his wife.
 
Tuesday and Wednesday went by with the same result.
 
Come Thursday, the swelling went down a bit and he could see her a little, just out of the corner of his left eye...

THE END (for those who didn't get it)

Alex:
Shame on you!!! This was TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR. This web site is not the appropriate web site to go into the gorey details that you described--whether you are pro or anti abortion. If you feel you must discuss this please create another SUBTOPIC so that the rest of us don't have to read this!!

Edited by author 11-06-2000 09:10 PM
Toño: un abrazo grande siempre se te recuerda con cariño. Muchos años de conocernos. Tienes Razon.

Alex: I will not hide it, I am a die hard Republican....But your second paragragh is uncalled for. I know you are a man of the cloth, but bring the Marine out when you write. I enjoy your crusades very much and are proud of you. But you know what to keep low tone,Please.
Semper Fi !

Alex Loya:
Great on your first paragraph.
Uncalled for starting the second paragraph.

Everyone:
I read the board every working day. Many things to say but little time to express them right. But I think of you all the time.

Toño

Edited by author 11-06-2000 08:42 AM
Hey Jody! Hello everyone! Well, tomorrow is the big day! Tomorrow one of the most important Presidential elections will take place in the U.S.!... and I would like to bring one thing to your attention... Do you remember, men, what it felt like when you put your hand on your wife's tummy, and all of a sudden you felt your baby kick? I remember, for me, it was a happy feeling! I would place my hand on one side of Sandra's tummy, and lil' Alex would vigorously kick, then I would move my hand to the other side of her tummy, and after a second, lil' Alex would kick on that side, he was literally playing with me from inside my wife's womb! Incredible! And, ladies, I can't even begin to imagine what it felt like to have him kick inside Sandra's body! Do you remember, ladies, what it felt like to have your son or daughter kick inside your womb? What was it like? Were you amazed or happy to feel that little life moving inside your tummy? Us men can't even imagine, you ladies do have a unique perspective on this!...
Registered nurse Brenda Pratt Shafer testified before the Congress of the United States about her first hand experience participating on a procedure called "partial birth abortion", please pay close attention to her testimony:
     "This abortionist made me stand right beside him and made me watch this procedure. He went up the cervix with the forceps and grabbed one of the baby's little feet and he brought it down through the birth canal, then he went up again and grabbed the other little foot and brought it out through the birth canal until he had both of the feet on the outside of the mother. Then he took his hands and grabbed the baby's little feet with his hands and he pulled the baby out of the mother until he delivered everything except for the head. The doctor kept the baby's head just inside the uterus. The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a "startle" reaction, like a baby does when he thinks he might fall! The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high powered suction tube into the opening and sucked the baby's brains out... the baby was now hanging limp."
     President Bill Clinton has twice vetoed, with Al Gore's full support, the ban that Congress had passed on this gruesome, merciless murder called "partial birth abortion"... and vowed to veto any future attempt by Congress to stop this horrific child abuse, with Al Gore's full support. Tomorrow, those among us who are citizens of the United States of America will have the awesome opportunity to exercize our right and our responsibility to vote for whoever we believe will be the better man to be President of the United States. Certainly, as an American citizen you have the freedom to vote for whoever your conscience leads you to vote for, but, my dear AHS family, please be aware of the fact that the moment your hand pulls the lever inside that voting booth to vote for Al Gore and Joe Leiberman, you will be voting for this gruesome, unspeakably horrible, merciless murder of the most innocent among us, who can not defend themselves, and you will be voting against your self, because your hands, like Al Gore's, will be stained and dripping with the blood of these beautiful, innocent babies who can not speak for themselves, because Al Gore has vowed to continue this atrocity. On the other hand, when your hand pulls the lever inside that voting booth to vote for George W. Bush, you will be defending those who can not defend themselves, you will be speaking and crying out for those who can not speak for themselves, you will be saving the life of the most innocent among us, because George W. Bush has vowed to stop this barbaric, cruel, merciless murder of the innocent, the most innocent... Certainly, as an American, you are free to vote for whoever you will, but before you do, read this message again, and truly let your conscience be your guide.
"...The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his feet were kicking. The the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a "startle" reaction, like a baby does when he thinks he might fall. The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high powered suction tube into the opening and sucked the baby's brains out... the baby was now hanging limp." Registered nurse Brenda Pratt Shaffer testifying before Congress.

Edited by author 11-04-2000 10:51 PM
Cindy P- Europe was GREAT, for me it was pleasure, for my husband is was both. It is good to be back.

Georgina M- Llamame cuando vuelvas. My Schedual looks like this:

At this moment I am shooting the TV show The X-Files, and most likely on Nov 20th I will be starting on a movie with John Singleton, el Director de Shaft, Boyz in the Hood, Rosebud, Higher Learning, Peotic Justice,Etc.. So that is what my scheduel looks like.

It is nice to see thsat we are finding more people to join the chat.

Fernando Fuentes- Te envie los cacahuates y me los regresaron- I will send them to you again on Wednesday after I finish shooting the X-Files OK.

To all those interesed, I have a whole lot of cacahuates that I surely can't consume. :)

Saludos a todos.

Ingrid

Out of curiosity, I searched the net for more info about Marilyn Monroe's six toes and it seems like its more of a myth than anything else. Looking at several pictures of her I can clearly see she had normal toes. I wonder why the myth persists.

As to burning more calories while sleeping than by watching television, I guess it depends on what you are watching. I can bet you, you will burn a lot of calories, Watching your spouse about to answer the 500,000 dollar question in who wants to be a Millionaire...

Hey gang I'm back. I've been busy and just haven't taken the time to write. Donna I have thought of you so often I even got your email from Kelly Coker and wrote to you but I never heard from you and that's because I had the wrong add. I'm so glad to hear that you and Alexia are doing well in Washington. I am sure that it suits you. We have some friends who lived there and I hear it is absolutely beautiful. I will send you an email and will catch up with you. My e mail add in case anyone would like to write is javjodarguello@msn.com.

Alex what an amazing adventure you had in Pakistan. God protected you.

Dale Reed if you are reading this I just wanted you to know that I had the weardest dream the other night with all people but John Florence. We had this long conversation and caught up on life. I have no idea why but it made me remember some of the fun times we had at school.

Cindy P. after your story it is truly amazing to me that you are still married. I am not that fond of camping but need to learn to do it more because my husband likes it. The weather though here in TX. is absolutely miserable for camping.

Georgina M. where are you? I haven't heard from you since you called me that time in L.A. What are you doing now?

It is late and I need to go

Love Jodi

Hey Marcie! Good to hear from you again! Thanks for your kind compliment! I was persuaded that it was the Lord that sent me, though, so I figured He would protect me, and He did, He did not let me down. But Pakistani Christians, now, they are brave! An old pastor showed me the actual scars on his abdomen and sides where he had been stabbed multiple times for preaching the Gospel, and he was still going strong! The worst I've had is someone spit at me while I was preaching in the street in San Antonio... he missed though. You should see lil' Al walking! Its a riot! Little hands up in the air, little legs bent at the knee with evey step like he is in a marching band, laughing his head off!... trying to dart out every time he sees an open door! I love my baby!

Homero, tienes razon! Que extreme sports ni que nada! Especialmente a la hora de comer! Extreme sport es comer en un pais asi... me dio un terrible caso de "Moctezuma's revenge" o come dicen aqui "Montezuma's revenge" pero por alla mas bien fue "Mohamed's revenge"... terrible! Se me hace que si escribo un libro de mis aventuras de accion!

Donna, Alexia would be a femenine, short form of Alexander, basically the femenine form of Alex. Now, Alexander in an english speaking country or Alejandro in a spanish speaking country, or Alessandro in Italian or Alistair in Scottish etc. they all come from the Greek Alexandros. Alexandros is a compounded name from two Greek words: Alex meaning "guardian" and Andros meaning "man" so that Alexander, or Alex, means "Guardian of men" or "Guardian of mankind" Alexia, then, is a femenine form of "Guardian of Mankind", in other words, Alexia is something like Xena Warrior Princess!

Marylin Monroe?! No! Nooo! NOOOOOOOOOO!

Donna Keeler!! How wonderful to see you here. I have tried emailing you, but now I see that I had an incorrect address. So, your baby is nine years old! I imagine she is as beautiful as you are. I was just telling two of my friends last week that you were the Gerber baby in Mex. and how pretty you always were. I also told them of the time we went to your vacation home with the pool and tennis courts, and how much fun we had. Remember your dad taking us to the club,what a blast! Also remember exploring those scary caves by your house. I was just positive that someone was going to jump out and grab us. Yikes. Anyway, it is great to hear from you.
Alex, you are a brave man. The situations around this world are so terrible, and they certainly will only be fixed by God, through his people. We are so glad that you are ALIVE and home! Little Alex is starting to walk!! Get some video footage of your little ones.
Fernando- Hope all is well with you and your wife and the baby. He is probably changing every single day now, isn't he? I am enjoying every moment I can with my great-niece. She is now almost four months and so precious. They will be moving away in the next couple of weeks, so I have to be with her as often as I can now! I get to babysit tomorrow :-)
Hey everyone take care.

Did you know?.....

The citrus soda 7-UP was created in 1929. "7" was selected because the original containers were 7 ounces. "UP" indicated the direction of the bubbles.

Dentists have recommended that toothbrushes be kept at least 8 feet away from the toilet to avoid airborne particles resulting from the flush.

No piece of paper can be folded more than 7 times.

1 in every 4 Americans has appeared on television.

You burn more calories slpeeping than you do watching television.

Oak tress do not produce acorns until they are 50 years of age or older.

The 1st product to have a bar code was Wrigley's gum.

The king of hearts is the only king without a mustache.

A Boeing's 747's wingspan is longer than the Wright's brother's 1st flight.

Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise.

The 1st CD pressed in the US was Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA".

Apples, not caffeine, are more efficient at waking you up in the morning.

Most dust particles in your house are made from dead skin.

The 1st owner of Marlboro Co. died of lung cancer.

Barbie's full name is Barbara Millicient Roberts.

Betsy Ross is the only real person to ever have been the head on a PEZ dispenser.

Michael Jordan makes more money from NIKE annually than all the NIKE factory workers in Malaysia combined.

Marilyn Monroe had 6 toes.

The sound of E.T. walking was made by someone squishing her hands in jelly.

Hola a todos! Acabo de recibir un email de John Pike. He's doing great and is living in San Francisco (que onda, everyone is in San Fran!).

Donna: Welcome! It's great to hear from you. I'm glad you are doing well. I've never been to Seattle but I would love to see it. I hear that taking the Pacific Coast train is an awesome trip to go up north. We may try it some day. John, my hubbie, has been camping to Seattle and he loved it.

Ana Ceci: Mi email es geornjohn@earthlink.net. Lo checo cada 2 o 3 dias.

Ingrid: Hola! Bienvenida de regreso. Como estuvo tu viaje? Voy a estar fuera unos dias en noviembre (se casa mi hermano Julio en Cabo San Lucas y luego vamos a Illinois para thanksgiving. Como esta tu schedule?

Now that it is getting colder up here, I'm noticing I'm checking my email (indoors) more often. It's funny how that works....
Marivi- It's good to hear from you! Lisa and Javier are pretty settled in Mexico in their new home. However, I think they would consider moving to the U.S. in the future. By the way, for those of you who don't know, Lisa has four children! (Diego, Mari, Phillip, and Analis). Analis is just a little over a month old.
Ingrid- It's been too long! It sounds like you are the person to get advice on travelling in Europe. I didn't get your email but please try again: donnak@coupeville.net or donnak@co.island.wa.us
Cindy P.- Your home sounds beautiful! We travel to Colorado often to visit Eric's family. Thanks for the info. on the reunion. Yes, I'm living in the north west on Whidbey Island, northwest of Seattle. I'm an Environmental Panner and a Council member. We have been here since 1994 and probably will stay here for awhile. It's a great community and I love being by the water and near the mountains.
Alex - I have heard a couple of meanings for the name Alexia. I would love to hear the one you know. By the way, you recent adventures sound fascinating!
Kelly - I just sent you an email!
Un abrazo a todos!

Hola a todos. Donna, nice to hear from you.
Geor. Que bueno que Julio esta bien. Su novia seems very nice. Saludalos. Tu eres parte del communications committee pero cada vez que te mando un mail, me lo devuleven. Me lo puedes volver a mandar? el mio es comaj@iserve.net.mx

You should all be recieving shortly a mail from your "rep" asking about wheather or not you will make it to the reunion. We need to start seeing numbers in order to get our presupuesto more accurate. If you don't, please make sure that Dale has your e-mail in his list. (Cindy just posted our web page).

Donna Keeler: Is it true that your sister Lisa might move back to the SF Bay Area?

Oye Loya, por lo visto te divertiste. Que extreme sports ni que nada, eh. Debieras de escribir un libro.

Ingrid: How was Europe? Was it vacation or pleasure?

Ann: You're right, Colorado is wonderful! I live just west of Denver in Golden Gate canyon. We were fortunate to buy a house on 20 acres when this area was cheap.We have one neighbor a couple of hundred yards away from us and the next is almost a mile a way!! We can ski up to that neighbors house when there is enough snow. The only things I miss are the ocean, tacos al pastor, and occasionally wearing high heels...Camping is fun, but it can also be miserable. My husband is an outdoorsman (a wildlife biologist) and we decided to go camping in Yellowstone vs going to Cancun for our honeymoon. It rained every day, I couldn't get my morning pot of coffee (due to the weather)---and I hate to admit it, but those Winnebago's full of grandma's and grandpa's (waving at us at we ate our cold sandwiches in the rain) really looked good!! We almost divorced (I am serious, I tried to come home) but life changed when we stayed in a hotel (my husband, whom is American to the core, didn't know that a twin beds meant the same thing as a single bed when we checked in)..We did see the wolves, moose, eagles, you name it and it was worth it. And I am still married now and we have some great stories to tell. Camping in humid weather however (Michigan, Texas, Lousiana) is a different story, and dealing with bugs is awful. Try coming out to Colorado or Wyoming in the summer its absolutely wonderful!

Hello everyone, I'm back from Europe. We had a GREAT time!!!!


Cindy P- Thank you for the chocolate tip. Chocolate is
Also my drug of choice.

Georgina M- Ahora si ya nos podemos juntar.

Sat Kaur R- Welcome.

Donna Keeler- Bienvenida!!!! I have been wondering where you have been. I tried to e-mail you, but I guess you never got my message. How are you? Where do you live?

Ann Negratti Constantino- It was very nice to hear from you. I remember you verry well from the morning bus rides.

It is nice to see that more people are joining the chat, and I checked out the reunion info page, it's starting to come together. That is great!
 
I'll talk to you later. I have to unpack and get ready for some out of town visitors.

Yolanda Escandon pointed out that I forgot to mention the time of the party in my posting...

La fiesta del Dia de los Muertos comienza a las 8:00 p.m. el sabado 4 de noviembre en casa de mi amiga Celia (481, Fourteenth Ave., San Francisco)...

I made it! I made it! I came back alive! Man, I just had one of the most absolutely incredible experiences in my life over in Pakistan! All the people, from the pastors to the people, received me like I am a true Biblical prophet! I mean, not in the "telling the future" sense, but in the "delivering a message from the Living God" sense. Absolutely incredible, and terribly humbling! The Lord knows I am definately not worthy of their reception! But in their minds I was established as a true prophet (in the second sense) because right before I went there and when I got there the Lord did an absolutely incredible miracle in their eyes that validated my ministry in their eyes and gave heavy authority to my words. Briefly, you gotta know the context to understand the significance of what happened: We are talking the "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan, 1% Christian, only 5% of that 1% born again Christians, according to The Voice of The Martyrs Ministry Pakistani Christians receive some of the harshest treatment in the world, like I said before as an example, last year a whole village of Christians, men women children, got slaughtered by Muslim mobs and the Muslim authorities did nothing, when a Muslim gets saved, converted to Christ, he/she gets killed, their picture is put in the Newspaper so that anybody that finds them kills them etc. its brutal! At any rate, within last year the military Muslim government passed a law than nobody can assemble publicly and nobody can use megaphones, microphones sound systems to speak publickly, nobody is allowed public speach, not even the Muslims. Well, absolutely incredible, turns out that before I went there, they applied for a permit so that we could have public crusades, and, get this, within one hour! the Muslim authorities granted the permit for the crusades the Lord entrusted me with to assemble, speak publicly and use sound systems! They granted us a permit when and where not even the Muslims get a permit! In the Islamic state where Christians get killed and the authorities just stand by! You believe that?! Within one hour too! That's insane! That's crazy! That's absolutely incredible! That was miracle #1, miracle #2 came when I spoke the first time: The first crusade was delivered about 3 hours late, as it turns out, a local Islamic newspaper had published an article stating that they expected 300,000 Muslims to convert to Christianity because of the crusades I was entrusted with. They did this in order to stirr up the Muslims to oppose us. Well, when I went to the place I was supposed to preach, I couldn't understand a word anyone was saying, but I could tell they were concerned about something. They rushed me to the local pastors home, consisting of one room and an open patio, and I sat there for 3 hours. They were praying and talking looking concerned. What happened was that the Mulah's, Muslim priests, were up in arms, and one of them was trying to stirr up a disturbance, a riot basically, the Mulah's "son bien mulas" and they have a lot of power. Now the Lord had spoken to me before I left the U.S. at a prayer meeting for the trip and several times while in prayer and had clearly said to pray for the police in Karachi and for the chief of police in Karachi, I didn't know why. What happened, though, was that the chief of police sent out for the Mulah that was stirring most of the trouble, took him into the jail, didn't arrest him but told him not to bother us, then he sent military like police with machine guns to guard our safety, then sent more police to reinforce those that he sent first, with machine guns, then, get this, came down personally, the chief of police, to make sure we were safe! Incredible! Salamat, the brother who invited me, was just saying "This does not happen in Pakistan!"! After 3 hours they took me through a maze of tight corridors and alleys, still looking concerned, thus I was concerned, not knowing who would jump out of the dark and put us to death, and took me to an open field where the people were singing songs of worship. Only about 400 people were ther because of the danger, true believers! And watch this! As I walked together with Salamat through the crowd to the stage, two little children began to throw rose petals on us as we walked to the stage, when we walked to the stage, they made me stand infront of a choir of little children who sang of song of welcome to me, then the children showered me with a ton of rose petals! They took me to the platform and they, men and women, began to come and put garlands of roses around my neck! Now, they had received me at the airport, through which I went through real smooth having a friend who took me through the stations with a wave of the hand, with roses and two garlands, but this was overwhelming! I preached, Salamat translating for me, with machine gun carrying military police surrounding the perimeter, incredible! When I finished preaching, a young lady came and asked me for my autograph, then another, then another and another and soon the crowd was surrounding me, thronging me wanting my autograph, a picture or just to shake my hand, until the men of the worship team had to come and pull me out! Unbelievable! I went and shook the hands of the Muslim police, and they were so incredibly respectful, looking down to the ground! Man, it just went on! They took me one time to a neighborhood where Hindus and Christians live, and my heart was grieved to see them worshiping the works of their own hands, the Christians had as many gods except they call them saints. Anyway, they took me to each Christian home for me to pray for them. Then, at one of the last two houses, apartments, a young man came in the room where we were having tea and cookies. When he came in immediately I sensed in my spirit that he was demon possesed (I know many of you think this is nuts... and, mainly, that I am nuts but... hey!...). Anyway, he sat infront of myself and Salamat, I could sense the evil spirits, and I could see he was looking at us, I believe the demon was through his eyes, with a lot of fear in his eyes, we layed hands on him and began to pray for him... and sure enough, he started manifesting! I mean, he started growling like a lion and baring his teeth like a rabid dog! We cast that devil out in the Name of Jesus! I ain't afraid of no ghost!(Where did I hear that before?) It was awesome, al in all, about 1,100 people commited their lives to Christ, many Muslims and Hindus and nominal Christians. These are true conversions, because its very dangerous to accept Christ in Pakistan. Anyway, I thought I would share a little of my experience with you, my beloved AHS family. Its not the other side of the planet, its another planet! They actually use donkeys and horses and camels for transportation alot still! I hope I didn't bore you! When I cam back, I found lil' Alex is walking a little bit, and, man, he was showing off! I missed my family so much! Its good to be alive!

Donna: Happy to hear from you! Alexia is a great name, do you know what it means? I know... you want to know?

Fer: My wife Sandra has a bigger bump than when I left!

Ok, I may be crazy, but I'm happy! Better nuts and happy than sane and miserable, don't you think? Anyway, 'nough o dat!
With Love,
Alex

If any of you happen to be in the Bay Area next month, do come to my Dia de los Muertos party! Please feel free to forward this to any AHS alumni in San Francisco.

WHAT: FIFTH ANNUAL DIA DE LOS MUERTOS PARTY

WHEN: SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2000

WHERE: SAN FRANCISCO (481 Fourteenth Avenue, near Anza)

RSVP: marivi@salesforce.com or marivi1@aol.com

Hi to all of you out there. I just can't keep up with this thing. I'm trying to be better about it. Marcie can tell you all how backwards I am with the computer. Kelly, I am with you regarding the cacahuates. Every once in awhile my husband would go to El Paso on business and I would have him bring me some back. It only took him a couple of times to get the right ones. It's funny, because every once in awhile I would find them in Houston, but they were normally stale. God only knows how old they were - yuck! I've been in talks with Jennifer WS, Marlynn, and Marcie regarding the reunion. I am also trying to talk Natalie Roberts into joining us. Some of us are also planning a camping trip during the summer. Seeing we (Negratti's) are not avid campers, we are looking for grounds with Kabins. John finds it humorous that we will actually stay in a Kabin seeing he works for Marriott!!! Would it be fair for us to be at a hotel and the others at the grounds?!? Being at the grounds would be much for fun I think. Cindy P. where are living now? Colorado? We were in Vail last weekend for a wedding. For those of you who have never been, it truly is "God's Country". I don't think I've been to a prettier place. And it is so clean. Although, I've yet to experience snow. We are talking about maybe taking the boys on a little ski trip. I think we will be getting in over our heads here. Does Elena ever read these? Elena, I am down south in Mansfield. We should try and get together for happy hour or something. I'll send you an e-mail. Hope everyone is doing well. I will try and keep up with this. Later...Ann

Donna: Great to hear from you!! Are you still living in the Northwest? I think Elena told me that you where doing some type of environmental work? Are you still doing that? I am always amazed at classmates having children that where our age when we all met. It will be great to see you and to see your daughter and your daughter at the reunion. The reunion is Memorial Day weekend 2001. For the latest info on the reunion, Dale Reed has been kind enough to start a webpage with information. It is http://muffin.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.htm

 Yeah Donna! Glad you joined the page. Hey, you can never have TOO many cacahuates, so always feel free to pick some up! I'll always repay you - I just need the connection (do I sound like an addict, or what?). I miss ya palso!

Edited by author 10-20-2000 07:32 PM
Regards to my old school mates. Hope you are all doing well. Left Mexico 20 years ago and still often think of those great AHS days.
Cheers!
JB
TVoptions@aol.com

I did not graduate with you guys, I moved to Miami where I live now.
- Can anyone please forward me Carlos Noriega's e-mail.
Thanks again.

Hola a todos! I'm finally checking in and I hope to be able to catch up with all your messages! I'm looking forward to seeing everyone at the reunion! By the way, is it still in May? Does anyone know the dates? I plan on being there and am bringing my nine year old daughter, Alexia.
Marcie, it is great to hear from you and I can hardly believe Erin is in college! I have thought of you often; especially every February 12th. I hope we can catch up some more soon.
Kelly, now I know why you haven't asked me to pick up a stash of cacahuates for you when I go to Mexico..... you have found a vey reliable source!
Everone else - I can't wait to see you. If you happen to travel to Western Washington, please let me know!

Morna: thanks for the info on the taxis. How scary!! Last time I was in Mexico City (summer of 1998) I was told it was better to rent a car vs. take a taxi..Is that still true? At the time I was also told that I basically was to, for all purposes, ignore the police. They could stop me, but I was not to give them my liscense or anything else..Has the situation with the police improved?

Hi!
 Thank you all for the get well and birthday wishes.
I have been doing many special extra excercizes, and going slow on my regular ones, adding TINY bits back on. I was supposed to be swimming, but the weather is rainy and cold, and the drive out to the Reforma is LONG in traffic.
 The car we have now is also metalic sky blue: Chevy Monza or Metro (may be a small Opel in Europe). It is standard shift (hubby in mid-40's) and SO PRACTICAL! They simply replaced the wrinkled parts for new ones!
                 SAFETY TIPS
 When everybody is in Mexico city next year, be EXTRA CAREFUL of taking public transportation. Not being paranoid, but cautious. Another close person had a very uncomfortable time, and would like all to pay attention.
If you cannot get a family member to take you, or a close friend, it is best to be SAFE. This is a huge city!
 At the airport, pay for a ride at the yellow and grey TAXI OFICIAL AEROPUERTO. They charge by vehicle, by area. This is a set fee for the distance covered. Usually they fit 4 people, but have several models. Ask for the one that suits your needs. They are very reasonable. The vehicles are white, have yellow markings, and a black airplane painted on. Do not let them hussle you into anythig other than what you requested at the counter. They usher you in outdoors, under part of the roof. The drivers are dressed in black slacks, white shirt and dark necktie.
 NEVER ride a taxi with REGULAR (3 letter, 3 digit) license plates. The Sitio ones are twice as expensive, but supposedly safer if called by phone (they communicate by radios). Their plates begin with an S. Libres are the ones driving down main streets, their plates start with an L followed by numbers. MAKE CERTAIN THEY HAVE FRONT AND BACK PLATES, AND THAT THE SAME NUMBERS ARE PAINTED ON DOORS AND ROOF.
 In ALL cases, peek in to see that they have their permit with photo (in a MICA plastic coating), that they are the same person, and that there is a black taxi meter. You pay what it states. Flagging costs 4.80 pesos, adds on as you ride, by time and or by kilometers. At night, until 6 am it is 50 % higher, but they put it directly into the meter.
 When in Polanco, or other restaurant areas, NEVER take the taxi suggested by the waiter. Call your Radio Taxi yourself from a cell or payphone. Write down the number you were given, and ONLY ride this one cab.
 The "secuestros express" will leave people without cash, credit cards, jewelry, luggage and self confidence to say the least! People telling us this have lost 4 hours of their lives being beaten, insulted, and still left out in the unpopulated areas at night. All were fortunate enough that this organized form of crime went no further. (They pretend that their gears are not shifting properly, this signal will usher in two armed men at the next corner, followed by more people in a suburban vehicle.)
 Other than a few bad elements, most drivers are family men trying to work for an honest living, but we have to try to exclude the rats from the rest by being picky! Lock the door once you are in, and check with the handle to see it worked. You are all important enough to spend 45 seconds on safety!!!

Sat Kaur: Count me in. My work number is 713 739 7007 and my home number is 713 334 5228. The only other person from our class that I knew was in Houston was Charles Meckel but I have lost track of him.

Morna: I hope that you get to feeling well soon!

La primera buena noticia es que mi hermano Julio y su fiancee Irina estan bien. They had a horrible accident near Puerto Vallarta 1 week ago today. If you have a Ford Explorer with Firestone tires, you may want to read about the accident on the Class of 80 chat room. It was a close call and I'm still shaken up about it. Mi esposo John tiene un Ford Explorer (but no Firestone tires). We're thinking about buying another van (I have a van; it's the ultimate mom's car!).

La segunda buena noticia es que Julio e Irina se van a casar en Careyes.

La mala noticia es que no he seguido las recomendaciones de Julio en el stock market (check them out on their chat room). If I would've followed his advice the stock market would not be giving me ulcers lateley.

Where is everyone? Our chat room seems to be slowing down!

Hola Sat Kaur! Patty Olachea ('79) lives in Houston. She knows several ASF alumni in the area. She might be a good contact to locate classmates. I will see if I can find her info.

Hello! I hope this message gets posted... I've posted a couple and none of them are on here, perhaps I've been doing something wrong. On the last one (a couple of weeks ago) I was asking if anybody from our class lives in Houston, where we live now. It would be nice to have a Houstonian reunion! Anyway, if there are takes, I'll organize! My number is: 281-279-7939
Tonight is our youngest son's 10th birthday party. They are finally quieting down with a movie! I also have a daughter almost 12, and another daughter 14 1/2.
Fernando: I've read your posts about your baby crying so much. I once knew a mother with a baby who cried constantly until she took him to a doctor who could adjust head bones (like a specialized chiropractor). After the baby's head was adjusted, he stopped! Seems babies heads can get squished wrong when they are born. Anyway, just a suggestion.
Seems my brother, Didar, has been really busy posting photos and taking care of the technical end of things here. Way to go, Brother! :-)
Hello to all the rest... it sure is nice to read up on what everybody is up to.

Ingrid: FYI-- www.Chocoholic.com has Belgian and other European chocolates. My favorites are Guylian. Don't order them in the summertime however--the little chocolate shells were fused together in one big wad of chocolate...I know, I know, I am pathetic, but chocolate is my drug of choice!!

Happy Columbus Day and :)HAPPY BIRTHDAY MORNA !!! :) Me encanto el pastel!

Ta All- Me voy a Europa hoy 10 de Octubre, I will not take my computer, so..I'll catch up when I return.

Fernando F- Ahi te van tus cacahuates con sabor a sal y limon. Let me know if you got them OK. And YES, I accept los chocolates ya que I have a very soft spot for chocolates de Belgica :)

Kelly S- Enjoy them!!! Each bag is about 8 pesos.

Hasta la vista chicos.

Ana: La mayoria de las fotos estan en el AHS class of 78-82 web site (el primer web site que sale cuando abres nuestro web site en donde dice photos). Ojala puedas poner fotos de Julia.

En donde estan las fotos?

Edited by author 10-09-2000 02:45 AM
Y ahí les va uno de pepito:

"¿Mamá, por qué mi papa está tan pelón?"
"Eh, pues veras, mmm... a sí, porque él es muy inteligente y piensa mucho."
"¿Y entonces tu por qué tienes tanto pelo?"

Just a quick laugh:

FIVE LITTLE JOHNNY JOKES

1. A new teacher was trying to make use of her psychology courses. She started her class by saying: "Everyone who thinks you're stupid, stand up!" After a few seconds, Little Johnny stood up. The teacher said "do you think you're stupid, Little Johnny?" "No ma'am, but I hate to see you standing there all your self!"

2. Little Johnny watched fascinated as his mother smoothed cold cream on her face. "Why do you do that mommy?" he asked. "To make myself beautiful," said his mother who then began removing the cream with a tissue. Little Johnny wondered: "What's the matter? giving up?"

3. The math teacher saw that Little Johnny wasn't paying attention in class. She called on him and said: "Little Johnny, what are 2 and 4 and 28 and 44?" Little Johnny quickly replied: "NBC, CBS, HBO, and the Cartoon Network!"

4. At Sunday school they were teaching how God created everything, including human beings. Little Johnny seemed especially intent when they told him how Eve was created out of one of Adam's ribs. Later in the week his mother noticed him lying down as though he were ill and asked "Johnny, what's the matter?" Little Johnny responded, "I have a pain in my side. I think I'm going to have a wife!"

5. Little Johnny's kindergarten class was on a field trip to their local police station where they saw pictures tacked to a bulletin board of the 10 most wanted criminals. One of the youngsters pointed to a picture and asked if it really was the photo of a wanted person. "Yes" said the police officer, "the detectives want him very badly". Little Johnny asked "Why didn't you keep him when you took his picture?!".

Ingrid, ni tardo ni perezoso te envío mis datos para aquello de los dichosos cacahuates japoneses con limón:

Fernando Fuentes
SONY ITE CORP
Mercure Centre
Raketstraat 100 Rue de la Fusée
1130 Bruselas
Bélgica

Como puedes ver, de hecho aún no tengo casa por aquí, y actualmente estoy viviendo en un pequeño depto. que Sony me paga hasta que consiga casa, por lo que es más fácil si me los mandas directo a la oficina.

Ya te llevaré chocolates de Bélgica (que tienen la reputación por aquí de ser de lo mejorcito de Europa y el mundo) a la reunión ;-).

Like always, everyone take care.

Edited by author 10-06-2000 01:14 AM
Kelley S- I am sooo glad you are enjoing them. I will be sending you some more tomorrow. If you do want to pay me, each bag was 7 pesos, so you need to figure it out :) But really, don't worry about it. It was is my pleasure :)

Fenando F-
Que lastime que ya no estas en Espa–a :(, pero que interesante trabajo tienes! Te voy a hablar cuando este por alla, y si me das tu direccion, I'll get some of those cacahuates Japoneses con limon to you. :)

Georgina, one thing I learned from the class of 80 reunion is that siblings are great for putting you back in touch with people. I don't know any news or the whereabouts of any of the people you list, but I have email addresses on my web site for some of their brothers and sisters:

Class of 80
Mussaret Zaidi
Robert Rumbaut
Eric Landa

Class of 78
Ramon Rumbaut

(Actually, Philip Landa is listed on the Class of 81 page, so you can contact him directly.)

If you ever find Rafael Zamora, let me know. We were never able to find his brother Jesus.

http://home.san.rr.com/smacintosh/AHSClassof80/AlumniDirectory

Good luck!

Edited by author 10-05-2000 11:54 AM
Hola Fer! Que bueno que Oliver va mejor. Don't worry. It keeps getting better (until you have no. 2)!

Alguien sabe de:
Victor Flores
John Pike
Raza Zaidi
Ronald Rumbaut
Maribel Sarabia
Alejandra Alvarado
Philip Landa
Rafael Zamora

Edited by author 10-04-2000 07:08 AM
Hola a todos/as.

Hace mucho no leo ni escribo nada, pero no es por flojera sino más bien por falta de tiempo.

Me da gusto reportar que el bebé va mejor, aunque todavía con mucha frecuencia tiene días malos. David, Cindy, Georgina, Marc y Alex: Muchas gracias por sus consejos y sugerencias – believe me when I say I’ve tried everything you’ve mentioned, and some things work some times, but not always, so we still pull our hairs out from time to time, although at the end of the day we are just learning to live with it.

Alex, congrats on the new one on the way. May he not be as demanding as our little Oliver has been. And the best of luck in Pakistan.

Ingrid, desafortunadamente ya no vivo en Madrid. En marzo me mudé de regreso a Alemania porque terminé el proyecto que estaba haciendo en España y prácticamente de forma inmediata HP me regresó a Alemania. Sin embargo, como no estaba creciendo dentro de la compañía a la velocidad deseada y en forma proporcional a la cantidad de negocios y dinero que estaba generando para HP, me puse a buscar que otra cosa hacer y desde el primero de este mes trabajo para Sony, y ahora estoy en Bruselas. Por lo tanto, si te das una vuelta por Bélgica me dará muchísimo gusto vernos. Mis teléfonos son: Oficina: +32 2 706-4475, Celular: +32 489 950847.

Georgina, me dio gusto ver tus fotos. Que bárbaro, no es broma cuando alguien dijo por ahí que estás igualita. Y tus nenes están bellos. Por favor salúdame a Julio cuando lo vuelvas a ver. Ahí de vez en cuando intercambiamos mails, pero no lo he vuelto a ver desde mi boda.

Morna – so sad to hear about your car accident. May the moron who bumped into you have bad dreams about it till you guys are all well. ¿Qué coche tienen ahora? Yo tadavía me acuerdo del chevi azul que tenían y que nos llevaba a todos lados cuando íbamos de exploraciones.

From my side, other than the fact that as you can read above I am in a new town starting a new job, the news is that my younger brother and parents came over during the second half of September for Oliver’s baptism. Not only did we have fun during the ceremony and party afterwards, but really enjoyed each other’s company all of the time. We did some traveling around Holland, and Germany, and had a good time doing it. The only sour note was the fact that Federico had a cold, which he managed to give to both my parents and to me, and in turn I gave it to Nathalie and Oliver. Poor little Oliver… It’s not like he is not having a hard enough time by himself already to have external “help” provided. Oh well, we are fortunately all doing better now, and hopefully soon everything will be fine.

And speaking about Kelly’s cacahuates, ¡¡¡que envidia me das!!! And specially for those new ones with limón!

Oh well, time to go. When I finally find a house in Brussels and move my house from Germany I will post my new data. For now you all know my personal e-mail which has not changed, and now also have some phone numbers.

Take care.

Ingrid - will, say, $100.00 cover it? Seriously, throw me a figure, and I'll send you off a check. Thanks again!

Georgina Marquez-
Hola amiguita, espero que tu chiquita ya este mejor. Dentro de dos semanas creo que voy a estar en Espa–a. Te llamo a mi regreso y ahora si hay que juntarnos. No he hablado con Shelly, y tu?

Karen Jaris-
A mi tambien me dio muchisimo gusto volverte a ver. De que Sergio me hablas? Me voy a Espa–a el 10 de Octubre, y creo que de ahi nos vamos a Roma y luego de regreso a Los Angeles.

Morna-
How are you doing? Espero que bien.

Kelly Sherck- I am glad to hear you got the cacahuates. I have no idea how much you owe me, but I am glad you're enjoying them :)

Ingrid - I received the cacahuates on Friday!! Thanks SOOO much! They taste so great! How much do I owe you? Let me know. Again, I really appreciate you doing that for me.

Morna:I was sorry to hear about your car accident..I empathize--not only because I treat (I am an Occupational Therapist specializing in upper extremity injuries) but I was in an accident myself last year..Back injuries are tricky. I hope you are seeing a good physical therapist and/or chiropractor. The key is to try to keep those muscles of your back relaxed (massage therapy and a hot tub/jacuzzi help tremendously). It also helps if the therapist can show you how to slowly progress with stretching exercises (keeps muscles relaxed) but also to show you gentle progressive abdominal and back exercises to keep the muscles in your trunk area toned--which in turn keeps your vertabrae in alignment. Soft tissue injuries (ie, where no bones are broken) take the longest time to heal and they are painful..And its frustrating because many people do not understand the amount of discomfort that you may be in because they "can't see a cast or blood"..Please let me know if there is anything that I can do..my email is tmckpm@idcomm.com.

AnaCeci:if I can do anything for the reunion, let me know. Unfortunately the buisness I am in doesn't lend itself for good sponsers (unless you want bandages, splints, and therapy type stuff)

Hello to all! I do hope to be able to go to the reunion, I do so wish to see you all! My new baby is due April 24th, same as my baby girl Kirsten, and two days after I turn 38 (did I say 38?... holy smokes!). The baby won't be able to leave the U.S. till after he or she is 8 months old, so if I go and the date is not changed, I may have to go by myself, maybe I can bring lil' Alex with me, we'll see...
Hello, Morna! Sammy, I got our class picture from Ms. Easterbrook's class in first grade, and the one from Ms. Marshall's class in third... we're itty bitty! That is what I am saying, my brother, we have known each other just about all of our lives! We truly are each other's home town!

Last Monday I had quite an experience, I got to preach in prison. As a minister I have access in and out the jail any time, so I showed up Monday night at the jail because a young man who is in jail for murder had written me a letter listening to my radio show. I just wanted to scope out the situation but the inmates who have become Christians since they were incarcerated asked me to preach. I had preached in a jail before about I guess 10 years ago now or so, but that time the inmates came to meet us at a chapel in the jail. This time the guards let me in the entrance of the murder ward, and locked the steel doors right behind me, on my sides there were thick steel bars. I was literally preaching in a cage surrounded by murderers! And there was a marked difference in the eyes of those who have come to know the Lord and those who haven't, very, very noticeable! Those who have come to know the Lord had life and light in their eyes, the others had death and darkness in their eyes. The inmates were very grateful, I do believe I will go back every Monday if I can. This next Friday I am flying to Pakistan to preach, I would like to request the prayers of those of you who believe, specifically for anointing and for protection, last year an American missionary and his two boys, ages 7 and 9, were burnt to death in their car by a Hindu mob in India. I am not afraid of dying, because to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, but I would like to stick around to see my babies grow up, so please do pray if you believe in the Lord. I got an official invitation to go to India from two ministries there, and also to go to Africa... just like the Lord to use our international upringing in the ministry! It would be pretty awesome if I could just give myself to the ministry and not have to be an insurance broker! Anyway, I love all of you and I am praying for you.
Alex

Morna: Hola! Sorry about your accident. Glad you're feeling better. Si vivieras en California en donde people are "suit happy" el accidente implicaria un tremendo law suit en contra de todos los que se pudiera! It's such a joke how people file suits against each other. It's making attorneys pretty happy. Como estan tus hijos? Me acuerdo cuando nos vimos en la reunion un ano despues de la graduacion. Te acuerdas?

Signing back in!
 Happy to hear all the get-togethers are starting. It will be much easier to recognize each other once the reunion comes around. Much as we like to deny it, 20 years do bring changes (or at least family members).
 We had a car accident Sept. 13, so were without a vehicle when AnaCeci had her reunion. Yes, I wore the neck brace and all. The lower back is what still is bothering. You just do not recover as quickly twenty years later!!
 The manager at Morris GM knows my father-in-law very well, so got the workers to be constant, and we only waited 16 days for the parts to be replaced and the car returned. The person who "bumped" into us had a good insurance, which has taken care of ALL the bills.
 Keep writing!

Sammy, la foto de la que hablas es en 4 ano de primaria con la Mis Estrada. It was part of a picture that came out in The News since it was taken with Santa Claus. (At the time, Santa Claus was Mr. Barkow our 8th grade math teacher who passed away some years ago) en la foto estaba Dominic, Eduardo Lozano, Eddie Rose, Mathew Upchurch, Dina, Alejandra Rendon, Thurston, Our class was only of 16. I remember it so well. Next time I go to my mom's I will look for it. Saludos,

Ingrid: perdoname de no haber llegado al desayuno, pero me fue imposible con los niños. Hubiera podido llegar como 10 minutos, corriendo como loca. Pero me dio muchisimo gusto verte aunque sea el viernes y conocer a tu marido, la pasamos muy bien. Es increible como pasa el tiempo, y no pasa a la misma vez no? Hoy entre al High School library y al entrar me encuentro a Sergio (no se si te acuerdas de el) y enfrente a la Mrs Wright, eso si fue como un viaje en el tunel del tiempo. Cuando te vas a España?

Ingrid: Como veras es bastante tarde y yo estoy despierta. Mi hija ha tenido el bug que mucha gente tiene de gripa asi es de que me desperto hace una hora y no me he podido volver a dormir. Me acabo de dar cuenta de tu mensaje de juntarnos el martes. Que tal como dentro de dos semanas? El proximo martes tengo que ir a renovar mi pasaporte. Has hablado con Shelly?

Sammy: Hola! How's life in Bezerkley?

I haven't posted a message in a long time and just wanted to say hello to all once again. I found my yearbook last week and have gone through it reading everyone's pages. The class of '81 was such a great group of people. I miss it. It makes me anticipate the reunion that much more. I was particularly struck by a photo on Heidi Franz' page of herself, Anacecilia, and Lori Siegal all three maybe 8 years old? We've known each other for such a long time. If any of the old timers still have their class pictures of when we were in elementary school, please post them or bring them to the reunion. I wish you all the best.
Sammy

Kelly Sherck-
They're on their way, and there's more to come. I sent you the ones I got for you at the airport, now that I unpackedÉ there's more J

Anacecilia-
ya abri la cuenta, en cuanto tenga el numero te lo mando. Una vez que sepas cuanto es por persona, avisame para llevar un control.
Cada vez que Tirso vaya a Mexico, le dare el dinero para que tu lo deposites en tu cuenta, O.K. ?

Antonio I-
Happy to hear your swinging :)

We need to get everyone motivated to participate. C'mon guys.

Well, as Ingrid and Karen mentioned, we had our first organizing committee meeting (o chisme meeting)last friday. It was a lot of fun and so good to see everyone.

We still have to work a little on the budget to bring costs down. The more we are, the less expensive it will be. So, we really need to get everyone involved and here.
We will divide the e-mail/phone list in 5 so that communication can be easier. I will send an e-mail to the "comunications committee" later on this week para que vean quienes son y quien les toca.
Ingrid will open a bank account in the USA for payments and I will open one in Bancomer in Mexico. We will let you know the information eventually.

WE NEED SPONSORS!!! We need sponsors for the party. Anything that can bring cost down (like booze). And anything that can make the party more fun like door prizes, regalitos, souveniers, etc. Puede ser 1 solo premio muy atractivo (like an airplane ticket somewhere) hasta algo pequeno para cada quien. Lo que quieran. We would appreciate it if all you business people that have big time contacts could help. Jackie Kassem is in charge of door prizes.

We will keep you updated on what is going on.

Tono. Que dia preferirias juntarnos. Podemos vernos todos en algun lado. Pon fecha y lugar, para correr la voz.

It was a pleasure to see (in the pictures) that all of you look as good as in 1981 (not you Ramon, only the girls).

Ingrid: the swing is working fine. for the moment no stories but will add some more as time allows me.

Fernando: what is the story? you moved? how is the baby? will like some news from you!!

To all the chilangos: It is taco time for me!!!!!! Tomorrow I go to Chicago for a trade show (Raphael Hotel, (312) 943-5000, don't ask not my choice) and I will be going to Mexico City to continue the business trip from September 29 at night to October 8 at noon. As you can imagine between the meetings and the family I will be much demanded but (BUT!!!!!!!!) if anyone feels like doing something or just feels like chatting over the phone I will be staying at my mom's 5341-2979 (I guess you have to add the five now at all times). The following week I am at the Dominican Republic for the week but I guess no old classmates live there. (i hate business trips!!!)

I need to sign off.
Do not get in trouble but if you do... Invite me!!! :)

Toño

Ingrid - You are a Goddess!! Thanks SOOO much! I'll be looking for the package. What do I owe you? Many thanks

Edited by author 09-24-2000 11:06 AM
Anacecilia, Karen, Rosa, Carmen, Ramon, Jaquie y Katia Herrara- Fue un placer en verlos!

Anacecila- Gracias por organizar la reunion. Julia esta divina!!!!

Karen J- Gracias por llevarme a la reunion, y por llevarnos a Tirso y a mi a cenar taquitos al pastor (yummmy). Me encanto verte y conocer a tu marido. Me dijo Anaceci que no ivas a poder llegar al desayuno, te extra–amos.

Para los que ivan a venir al desayuno: Llego Cindy Fuentes, She looks GREAT! Nos platico un poco de su trabajo, WOW! Es muy interesante.

Marcie M- I am glad to hear you and Erin are doing well. It sounds like you both have adjusted very well.

Kelley S- I have your cacahuates Japoneses. I'll mail them tomorrow, Sept. 25. The green bag is NEW, woith limon y sal. The blue bag are the classic ones. ENJOY! J

Ramon Ricoy- Fue muy bonito verte de nuevo. Gracias por los budgets y la planeacion inicial de la reunion. Mandame un e-mail para que nos comuniquemos. Le platique a mi marido de ti, y le gustaria conocerte. Maybe you guys can work together. ROTCERID@compuserve.com

Katia Herrera '80- Gracias por tu advice y por tu participacion para nuestra 20th year reunion. Te ves identica.

Cindy P - So I hear you have a great view... pues habra que irte a visitar muy pronto. How is Renee doing? I was talking about her in our first planning reunion. Can shee get on-line and join our chat?

Elena R- Que onda? How are you?

To all- Guys, we need to get in touch with the 199, or 198 classmates so they can all participate. We have plenty of time to get everyone together, but we must get started.

Georgina M- Vamos a llamarle a Shelley para ver si la podemos ir a visitar este Martes. À Que te parece?

Talk to you later.

Ayer 22 de Septiembre tuvimos una pequeña junta para organizar la reunion. Asisitieron: Ramon Ricoy (bendito entre puras mujeres), AnaCecilia, Jackie Kassem, Rosa Montalvo, Carmen Castillo y como invitada especial desde Los Angeles CA: Ingid. La pasamos muy bien, fue mas pachanga que organizacion, pero tan siquiera es el primer paso. Pusimos fotos de la reunion, por si las quieren ver.
Hasta pronto, Karen

Kelly: Thanks for your compliments! Have you posted pictures? I'd love to see some. My brother Julio was here last weekend and brought an album with pictures of their reunion. It was so much fun seeing lots of faces which I actually recognized 'cause they still look the same! I saw a picutre of Elena and she looks great!

Marcie: Welcome back. We were wondering about your whereabouts! I'm glad Erin is doing well. I bet you're so proud of her!

Hi everyone, Wow, do I feel like I've been out of the loop. We lost our modem in a lightening storm here a few weeks ago, and just replaced it last week. Being the computer genius that I am, I just got it figured out and working today. Sounds like all is well. Everyone seems very busy.

Ingrid- Erin is doing great in college because it is quiet and only has 900 students. Everyone is very friendly and she is making friends very quickly. She said that the classes are going great also. I am very excited and happy for her, but even though she is the quiet one of the three, I really miss her being at home. I only will be seeing her one weekend a month for awhile. She is growing up, and that is what they are supposed to do.

Cindy, as far as sleep goes...hmmm,hopefully all of you people's little ones will give you one night's restful sleep at least once a month. Cindy, your baby is sooo pretty. Thanks for the photos!!

I hope to catch up on all of the reading here sometime this weekend. Take care everyone. :)

Hi all, Just to remind you all in Mexico City that we will have our first oficial organizing reunion on friday 22 at my house. 5:00 pm. I will let you all know what comittees were formed and where we will be needing volunteers.
tel. 55 70 48 27
Geor, I will let you know the $ situation as soon as we know it. Gracias
Cindy, Hay vamos ! y tu? creo que estas on line ahora.

Feliz belated 16 de Septiembre!! We had the Colorado pachanga at my house with Mark Halstead ('77?), Laura Pentoney ('78), Sally Lawton ('77), David Baird and Renee Koch ('80) and Elena Rohweder (mi cuata para siempre!!) flew in from Dallas for the event--Peter Baird and Mike and Sue Fitch didn't make it and John Bauer (te perdiste una fiestota) didn't make it either. It was great to see AHS'ers and their families--we also had 50 or so more people (friends and neighbors)...We had tons of food (my husband and I will be eating beans and rice for months), horseshoes, volleyball, margaritas , margaritas, margaritas (Elena and I polished these off at 2:30 am). It really was great to get together with everyone--and the volleyball was fierce..the weather was perfect!!

AnaCeci: how's mommyhood? Mandame nuevas fotos de Julia--te mando unas recien de Alessandra.

Georgina: Good to hear from you!! And I agree, Shelly, donde estas? I know your up at 2 or 3 am with those feedings!! Tell us how things are going!

Fernando: Te has mudado ya? Y el colic como esta? Are you ready for a full night's sleep? Maybe we need to ask Marcie since her oldest just graduated--when do parents finally get to sleep a full night?

Ingrid: I love your Hollywood stories--nos tienes que decir cuando sales en una pelicula o commercial!!

Karen J: gracias on the updates sobre las Olympiadas. Tu sabes que estos gringos son tan egoistas que nunca ensenan nada de los paises latinos...

Helen P: Oye, nena, there are some old ladies competing in swimming this year--una que tiene 32 anos y creo que Amy Van Dyken tiene 36...que piensas?

Marlene G: don't be so shy

A los demas: it is always great to see how everyone is doing. Does everyone realize that the reunion is a little over 8 months away? Maybe I can manage to loose some of the nalgota that I accumulated during pregnancy before I see everyone.

Georgina - I just saw the pictures you posted, of you and your family. First of all, you look exactly the same - what is your secret? Secondly, your kids are so beautiful! That photo of you holding your son, is so precious! Your daughter looks just like you!

Hi Kelly! Hi Ann! Good to hear from you!

Karen: Hola! Que gusto saber de ti. Hace algunos mensajes (100?), pregunte por ti. Javier me contesto diciendo que la ultima vez que te vio estabas en San Diego. Que bueno que estas bien. Seguro cuando vengas por aca nos vemos. A mis nenes les encanta Disneylandia. Mi nena Rebecca tambien esta en gimansia olimpica como Natalya. Segurisimo que vamos a ir a la reunion. Me dara mucho gusto verte otra vez y conocer a tus hijos. Oye, buenos ratos, malos ratos, oh well, hasta con mi esposo tengo malos ratos pero de alguna forma u otra we always get over it. Nos conocemos hace como 35 anos no?

Ingrid: Te deje recado en tu answering machine. Hay que vernos cuando regreses de Mexico. Lunch? (Ya empeze mi dieta para la reunion!)

Shelly: Donde estas? No hemos sabido de ti. Como veras Ingrid y yo estamos planeado vernos. Vives cerca de Ingrid? Yo puedo ir a L.A. Si lunch no te es facil por los nenes entonces dinos que prefieres. Los martes es el mejor dia para mi.

Ana Ceci: A donde y cuando hay que mandar dinero para la reunion. Me imagino que habra que dar anticipos para reservar lugares.

Sammy: Hace unas semanas conoci a Jaime Weinstein. Su veterinario lo refirio conmigo por que su perro Ben estaba teniendo seizures. Le hize un MRI y resulto tenia un brain tumor. Anyway, platicando salio que es de Mexico y que sus sobrinas van al Americano. Luego salio que conocia al Dr. Jinich que vivia en Polanco y que tambien se acordaba de ti. Tambien conoce a Helen. Que chiquito es el mundo no?

Hello again!
 I have been keeping up on the reading about once a month. This takes up so much time, that half-way through my message, the server cuts me offline. We want everyone to be happy and healthy, which seems to be the rule for those signing in.
 We have to be the first generation brave enough to be sincere with our in-laws. Bluntness now will save you from many uncomfortable moments later. Nothing better than letting them know that they should call before planning a visit, so you can tell them if you will be home for this. If they are in the chatting mood, they may be able to remember having a few uncomfortable moments when beginnig life themselves. (As in having the doorbell ring five minutes before getting out to have that necessary couple alone outing!!)
 Look up names in the Anahuac, once we stragglers catch up on writing messages!!

Hey Ingrid! Van a ser cuatro! The other night my wife Sandra and I were watching Jay Leno, and he was doing the "headlines" where he reads all kinds of funny headlines or ads in the newspaper. He showed one in which there was an ad for vasectomies, and next to it was an ad encouraging a football or baseball team called "Braves" which said ,"Chop, chop, go braves!" with the picture of a tomahawk. Ever since then she keeps telling me, "chop, chop go braves!" Even my baby girl Kirsten tells me "Daddy, chop, chop go braves!" (Of course, she has no idea what her mom has in mind, she just thinks it sounds funny) All I can do in response is just... smile. As for the booklet, basically if everybody would put a page together made up of a collage of pictures of each of our lives in the last twenty years, like weddings, college graduations, miliary service, kids etc., we could put it together in the form of a magazine, glossy and all, and in color, I don't think it would be too expensive, there is a printshop close to where I live, I've been intending to stop and ask how much it would cost to have something like that printed, but I keep forgetting to stop, I will though, maybe tomorrow. Alright, everybody, don't let the messsage board die. lets all keep in touch!
Hugs to everybody!
Alex

Karen Jaris-
Gracias por los updates olympicos. Los Urich-Sass son mis sobrinos, hijos de mi hermano Edgar. Dime. cuando vaya a Mexico a donde te hablo? Dame tu tel.
Mi e-mail es ROTCERID@compuserve.com.

Georgina Marquez-
Estas cerquita! Yo estoy en mero LA. Mi casa es juntito a Century City Shopping center, adj. to Beverly Hills. Todos los veranos voy a Disney con mis hijastras (que feo suena). Next year lets go together :)
Y cuando vengas por estos rumbos...let's see each other.

Me encanta esto de podernos comunicar asi. Gracias Sue M, y Dale Read :)

Me voy porque estoy en medio de filmar un Radio Shack commercial .
Hasta pronto.

Ingrid: Mexico acaba de ganar su primer oro despues de muuuchos años. Gano Soraya en levantamiento de pesas. Yo por aqui veo las olimpiadas en los canales mexicanos, pues los gringos hechan mucho rollo y no enseñan nada. Aqui hechan mucho desmadre y te pasan las competencias en vivo todo el dia.Cuando vengas a Mexico vas a ver la diferencia. En gimnasia tiene un poco de chance Mexico con Denise Lopez en salto de caballo, pero esta un poco lastimada. No me pierdo la gimnasia, pues mi hija Natalya de 9 años es gimnasta y anda en este rollo muy picuda.
Oye, se me olvido preguntatrte, en el Americano ha unos Urich Sass, son parientes tuyos?
Ese es mi ultimo reporte olimpico. Bye

Ingrid: Me encantaria verte por aqui, hablame y organizamos algo con las de por aca. Vivi en San Diego 6 años pero nos regresamos hace 7. Si mal no recuerdo hablamos un dia pues te queria presentar a un amigo no??? Hablame Bye

Georgina: Me dio gusto oir de ti, estabamos muy cerca, pues estaba yo en San Diego, pero cada verano voy y SIEMPRE vamos a Disney pues mis hijos no me la perdonan. Aunque tuvimos nuestros malos ratos, recuerdo muy bien los MUCHOS ratos buenos que tuvimos juntas desde muy chicas, en verdead te recuerdo bien y espero que vengas a la reunion.
Senti mucho lo de tu papa lo recuerdo muy bien.
Adios por el momento.

Ingrid: Ok. Soy super Chambona. Ahora si te hablo. Vivo en Orange County, en North Tustin para ser mas especifica (en realidad es la ciudad de Santa Ana pero nos consideran un area non-incorporated to the city y por eso nos llaman North Tustin). Estamos a 15 minutes de Disneylandia. Trabajo en Irvine. Los martes es mi dia libre. Tambien tengo baby sitter de las 8am a las 3pm asi es de que me puedo mover facilmente durante esas horas. Nos vemos pronto!

Kelly- No problema :).
It seems it's just you and me...in the board. i have been watching the olympics and working on line. So it's good to catch up once in a while with the chat so I don't get behind.

Does anyone know how Mexico is doing in the Olympics??? Here in USA they don't show or tell you about anyone but USA and their closest contenders :(

Ingrid - I'm so excited! Let me know what I owe you! Thanks, in advance...

Kelly- No problem, you got it. :)
I will mail them out to you on the 25th as I come back.

Ingrid - I would be SOOOO thrilled with ANYTHING you could send my way! My address is: Kelly (Sherck) Domnauer, 125 Ashewoode Downs Lane, Alpharetta, GA 30005

Have a great trip!

Anacecilia -
Hola de nuevo. Por fin me meti con una linea de DSL. Mi server constantemente would shut down. Now I can be online forever J
Voy a ir a Mexico este 20 mde Septiembre hasta el 24. Estare en el Hotel Sevilla palace, el Telefono es ; 5705-2800 bajo Tirso Arias o Ingrid Urich-Sass. Voy a la fiesta de cumpleaños de mi hermanaXenia.Te prometo que para la proxima que me quiera pelear con Harrison ford o Mel te aviso LOL.

Georgina Marquez-
Que onda contigo???? No que me ivas a hablar??? I am still waiting (LOL). Tu donde estas? Mandame un e-mail; ROTCERID@compuserve.com y dame tus datos. Como ya te enteraste, voy a Mexiquito lindo y querido este 20-24 de Septiembre. En Octubre me voy 2 semanas a España.
Me recuerdo MUY bien del reventón J. QUE GUSTO SABER DE TI!!!!! Mandame un e-mail.
Me ENCANTARIA reunirme contigo y tambien con Shelley. Donde estas?

Shelley L- MUCHAS FELICIDADEZ!!!!!!! Bienvenido Jeremy Adam!!!!! Me hubieras hablado para irte a visitar!!!! Bueno, aun hay tiempo. J

Kelly Sherck- Send me your address, I am going to bring a truck load back, so if you want some… e-mail me. J.

Fernando fuentes; CONGRATS!!!!! Ya te enviare las fechas de cuando este en España, y tambien te doy me telefono cellular. Maybe we can meet y asi vernos.Como va Oliver? Ya los deja dormir? Espero que si.

Sara Aroeste- Bienvenida. Que gusto sentirte. J A ver si nos vemos ahora que vaya a Mexico. Hablame al hotel.

Alex Loya- Congrats on your new pregnancy. Ya cuantos son????? Tell me more about this idea of the little booklett it's a great idea!!!

Antoni Iniguz- How are the swings? It's been long enough for the comcrete to dry. As you have read I will be in Spai, el el pai Vasco, border with France. I'll post the dates and my cell phone. I love your stories. You write well J. Me gusto mucho tu lectura para Oliver.

Cindy Petrinovic- You go girl J. I wonder how it will be for me? Hummm??

Marcie- How are you doing after droping your daughter off? I hope you are well. Remember when you went to college? I felt so excited and I couldn't believe that I was on my own. WOW it was fun. Don't worry, just reasure her you're always there for her no matter what.J

Ann constantino- HELLO!!!! It was so good to see you have joined us!!! I remember our bus rides together very well. Que es de tu vida???

Karen jaris- BIENVENIDA!! Pienso mucho en ti. Donde vives? Alguien me dijo que creeian que estabas en San Diego.Te voy a llamar ahora que vaya a Mexico, si nos podriamos juntar para comer me encantaria. Saludame a todos los que ves en el Americano cuando vas por tus hijos.

A todos- que bonito ver como nos estamos encontrando nuevamente.

Cuales son los updated de la reunion?

Saludos a todos y todas.
Ingrid

Hola a todos!! Me dio mucho gusto oir de este site y ver que hay mucha comunicacion!! A los de Mexico con mucho gusto ayudo en lo que se necesite para la reunion, hablenme 52-91-98-20. Lamento oir de tantas perdidas que han tenido algunos, lo siento mucho. Pero tambien me da mucha alegria en oir de tantos nuevos nacimientos! felicidades a todos!
Yo, por mi parte llevo 15 años de casada con Alex el mismo con el que andaba desde noveno, y tengo 3 hijos Natalya de 9, Andres de 6 y Valeria de 2. Los 2 grandes van al Americano y veo a muchos ex-alumnos con sus hijos, raro, pues sentimos que el tiempo no ha pasado y que podriamos estar en el hall, en la cafeteria, etc. La escuela esta padrisima estoy feliz alli con mis hijos. Veo por alli a Rosa Montalvo, Nina, Denise Gervitz, Hellen Plaschinsky, Sara (que me dio el site Gracias) y muchos mas.
Les mando muchos saludos a todos y espero verlos en Mayo.
Bye, Karen
Mi e-mail es : alexykaren@yahoo.com

Edited by author 09-13-2000 12:14 AM
Hey Ann! As they say, welcome home! Hey! Apparently the messages have been slowing down some! Anyway, watch this... you know how my wife and I are pregnant again? (you know what I mean)Well, this last Saturday I was being a great husband cleaning the kitchen while she sat at the table looking at some baby magazines, when she called me over to the table and showed the picture of a Graco double stroller. She said that we are going to need to get one because we are actually going to have two babies in need of stroller. Now, this stroller is double, the specific one she wants, but its not like with side by side seats, but with the seats one behind the other. At any rate, she shows me that and says we need to get that specific kind, also because that specific kind, Graco, is the only kind to go with the baby car seat, she tells me that... next day, Sunday, we go to church, at the end of the service, my daughter Kirsten and I are passing flyers to the church members to collect funds for my missionary, evangelistic trip to Pakistan coming in October, while my wife is talking to this girl who's family owns a baby stuff store. Now, we have know that girl, Tara, for a year or so, but my wife had never talked baby stuff at church with her cause she figured Tara wouldn't want to talk work at church, but this time my wife just happened to ask her is she carried that specific type of stroller in her store. When Tara heard this, she said she got goose bumps all over because the day before, at the time my wife and I had been talking about the stroller, somebody had returned a Graco double stroller to her store, brand new, just cause it had a little scuff on the handle. Tara had called Graco for them to refund the money or replace the stroller, and Graco had said to give the client another stroller and to just destroy the one the lady returned. Tara didn't want to destroy it because all it had wrong with it was a little scuff on the handle. When my wife asked her for the first time since we have known her if she carried that specific kind of stroller, Tara got goose bumps because the Lord had told her that morning to put the stroller in her sport utilty vehicle because somebody at church would need it. So she obeyed the Lord and here comes my wife asking about that specific kind of stroller! We walk into the parking lot and just transfered the double Graco stroller, the exact kind my wife wanted, from her vehicle to our van, brand new and for free! And I was just amazed on how God is concerned about such seemingly insignificant things in our lives, and I was greatly encouraged because I could see the hand of God involved way ahead of time in helping me provide for my family, even for the baby who is still in Sandra's tummy!(That's a praise the Lord right there!) Apparently the Lord is into strollers, I mean, after Disney world and this instance that's what I have to conclude! Anyway, hey! how about moving the reunion so that I can bring my family?! Please please please!...
Hugs and affection to all!
Alex Loya

Oh my gosh. We just got online a few months back (I know, how backwards of us - some things will never change) and just got the address for this site from Marlynn. We were discussing the reunion. Is the Intercontinental the hotel we know as the Chapulin? If anyone out there can let me know I would certainly appreciate it. I just wanted to submit a quick note to say a big HELLO to all. I need to run and pick up the boys (Stephen 8, Christian 6) from school. I'll write more later. Ciao for now.

Hello all,
  Sorry I haven't written in a while but have been pretty busy. Just wanted to say hi to everyone. There was a lot of reading to catch up on. bye

Gracias por sus comentarios. Geor, Ingrid, Didar yes you are all right. I also have a nice relationship with Memo ('80) my brother, with his wife and kids and we do need each other right now. I am very thankfull that I have them.

Ingrid, the movies... WOW! Next time you want to fight with Harrison Ford, INVITAME! o con Mel G., o con Keanu R, o con Tom C. Yo te ayudo!

I went to ASF today. I met with Jackie Kassem, Dina B. y Carmen Castillo. We will have a small reunion here in my house on Friday, Sept. 22 at 6:00pm to start planning committees for the reunion. Anyone in Mexico City interested is welcome to come. My tel. 55 70 48 27.

Marcie, How did Erin's first day go?

Saludos.

Hola Georgina. I too had a very close sibling, my sister Sat Kaur NOriega '81 and I agree its a great thing to grow up with.

BTW, I noticed that the pictures you uploaded at the MSN site didn't work. Maybe you can email them to me mailto:david@comicastle.com and I will post them for you.

Marcie: Perhaps you may be able to help me out. Any ideas on what a 3 year old might like to eat? I know my daughter is not about to starve herself and she is at a good body weight, but it sure is hard to figure out foods she might like. Her diet is usually chocolate milk, chocalte milk, chocolate milk, and chocolate milk. Well, not entirely, sometimes she'll go for a brownie too! Do you have any good receipes for 3 year old's?

Ana Ceci: Uno vs. dos? John, mi esposo, was convinced he wanted one. One daughter only. That's what we had at first. He was perfectly content. Pero yo queria dos o tres. Cuando Rebecca cumplio 15 meses era una monada. Plus, she was the perfect daddy's girl. That was the perfect time to convince John de tener otro. Si me hubiera esperado un poco mas hubiera sido muy dificil convencerlo porque Rebecca entro a los terrible 2's! En fin, we had our second and it was a shock!. One was extremely easy! When she napped, we had some time together. If she had a cold, it was only her that felt sick and was grumpy. We never knew how easy having one was until we had two. The first 6 months were very hard pero ahora es mucho mas facil. Our son loves daddy y John esta super encantado con su nene. Aun cuando tener dos o tres o mas es mucho mas dificil que uno, ya que los tienes it makes you very happy. We've decided to stay with two. They are so much work pero they are our pride and joy. Definitivamente lo mejor que hemos hecho en toda la vida. Lo mejor de todo es veerlos jugar juntos. Mi hermano Julio y yo are very close and I can only hope that our children will be the same way. Nada como tener un super hermano!

So Cal Post Pachanga September 16

Jody and I have been doing some investigation and have decided against Buzz as a place to meet.

We have decided on dinner at Sarduccis and dancing next door at San Juan Depot.

The cost for dinner including soft drinks, coffee, and dessert will be $25 per person. You can send your checks to me in advance or pay at the event:

Jared Bangerter
2879 Riachuelo
San Clemente, CA 92673

Cocktails will be available on a cash bar basis.

Dinner will be at 7:00 PM.

At about 9 PM we will walk next door for dancing until closing time at 1 AM.

These establishments are in downtown San Juan Capistrano about two blocks from the Mission in the old train station. Those who want to ride the train from LA or
San Diego will be able to get off right at the restaurant.

Driving Directions:

Take I-5 (North from San Diego or South from L.A.) and exit at Ortega Highway. Turn West (towards the ocean) and get into the far right lane turn left when the
road comes to a T at Camino Capistrano. Go South a very short block and turn right on Verdugo and go to the dead end where you will find the restaurant and
parking on both your right and left.

There are several hotel options in the area ranging from a low cost motel a few blocks away from the restaurant to the Marriott in Dana Point a few miles away.

Let me know what your preferences are for hotels so that I can let everyone know where to book reservations.

We are counting on the following people -- please let me know if significant other's are planning to attend or if there have been any changes in plans.

Attending
Alfredo Jarrin
Elena Luz Gomez
Francis and Lizet Fuller
Gaby Bino
Pepe Aroeste
Jared Bangerter
Jordon Sobel
Neil Schusterman
Mauricio McGregor
Sephanie Selesnick
Sue MacIntosh
Debbie Fuller
Eve Bangerter

Unable To Attend
Debbie Novick
Karen Rosen
Mike Fitch

Unknown
Alicia Rohweder
Ed Best
Sylvia Ranson
Elena Rohweder
Dave McDonald

Of course everyone who can make it is welcome!!

Hey! Its good to see all of you keeping up the messages! It makes me happy to see all of your names and read your words!
Fer, I'm the man with the plan! Ohhh buddy! Do I know about colicky babies! My lil' Alex had terrible colic! He would cry and cry for hours in physical pain. To make matters worse, as I just shared in the "About God" discussion, I have learned to find a beautiful peace that passes understanding when I bring things to God in prayer, but at the time Alex was colicki, I had been going through a dry spell spiritually, not praying, not reading my Bible, watching too much T.V. One day Alex was crying in pain and we could not comfort him, I placed my hand on him to pray for my baby, and the prayer just wouldn't come out, I couldn't muster up the faith, that was a terrible feeling! I left our room where we were, and rushed to the baby's room so my wife wouldn't see me, and I wept for my baby. I wept because I couldn't help him and he seemed to be in great pain, and my faith was shot so that I couldn't even pray for him! I guess God used it to break me a little and to show me that its best to stay in touch with Him where there is peace and trust if not always relief. It's incredible how much a man can love his little boy or girl! I love my baby boy!(and my little girl!) Sandra's mom gave us some advice that actually worked pretty good, though not perfect. She told us to put a mint in a bottle of warm water and let it dissolve (it doesn't have to dissolve completely) and let the baby drink this concoction, and it actually soothed the baby's pain a lot! Eventually he grew out of that, although now he is with teething pain. Man! Its tough being a baby! And remember to hug and kiss your wife and tell her she is the greatest, flowers and a card will also help, and a box of chocolates, this will help keep the stress between you two down. As for question #2, ask Dr. Laura... oh, I guess you probably don't get Dr. Laura over in Europe! I guess what she would say would be to just be honest with them and tell them in a cordial way what they are doing to your family. Tell them you appreciate their love and kindness, but that you really need some time alone, then grab your mother in law and give her a big hug and tell her, "You know I love you, huh maw maw?" It should work.

Thank you so much for all your congrats! Sandra is now 5 weeks pregnant and I am now playing Mr. Mom in the evenings, when she feels really nauseous. Yesterday I cooked dinner, nothin' to it! Just a quick call to Papa John's Pizza, that's all, dinner's ready... As soon as I finish this, I'm going down stairs to clean the mess in the kitchen... Ingrid, what does ELOL mean? I hope something nice? Yes? Alright, time to do the dishes!
Hugs to all!
Alex

Hello everyone: It is hard to be gone. WOW I'm trying to catch up. This is where I left off:
Anacecilia: Con JohnÉte direÉ.de lo de tener un baby, ;) I am taking my time, pero mi marido ya quiere un hijo, porque ya tiene 2 girls. De lo de hijo unicoÉ si puedes dale un hermanito. Con la muerte de mi papa, fue verdaderamente INDISPENSABLE tener a mi hermano Edgar y a mi hermana Xenia con quien contar. Sin ellos yo solita me hubiese que haber encargado de TODO SOLA. Si de por si es dificil la perdida de un padre, ahors estar sola lo hace 10,000 veces mas duro. Asi queÉ a trabajar :). Me encuentro en Reno Nevada en una Clinica homeopatica, ( donde veniamos con mi papa). Aqui te curan cancer, MS, Parkinsons, Alergias, Lyme desease, EtcÉ Creo que mi hermano John se la recomendo a Tenyson '80 en su chat room. Estoy aqui con mi marido que sufre de alergias de TODO los pastos, y mi mama que tiene Lyme disease, y pues a mi ya me quitaron mis alergiasÉy ahora me estan preparando para tener un baby bien sano J.

Alex Loya: You can take your foot out of your mouthÉLOL. Yes we do have a clock, but now we are in the 21st CenturyÉ.SoÉdon't worry we will reproduce and overpopulateÉLOL.

Cindy p- I will take time off when the baby comes. I have started to write as well now, so I can do that while looking after my babies. I will tell you more about my Cross Country Skiing and camping in the snow. I will write to your e-mail address sometime this week OK? Good to be talking to you.

M_morna: Who are you?

Alex Juarez: Great job you have!!!! I did Clear and Present Danger, A Walk in the Clouds, Fair Game, EtcÉNo, I am not a SAG member. I work behind the camera. I even got into a fight with Harrison Ford while shooting Clear and Present danger because he wanted me to participate in a scene with him and I said no. I prefer to be behind the camera. I am now appearing on some National TV Public Service Announcements for the Lation community recommending they register to vote. That is my extent of acting.. LOL.

Jeniffer W-S- Boy do I know what you mean by finding a place for all the things I have collected thru the yearsÉ.I'm still working on that.

I stayed in message 387. I have got to go now to dinner so I shall continue later. I will talk to you later.

John. Thank you so much for sharing your ideas and experience on this subject wirh me. It sure helps to hear different points of view. Bronte is a very lucky baby. As for Lisa, you have quite a brave, positive thinker for a wife, congratulations! I'm looking forward to meeting them here.

Fer. aqui hay unas gotitas que se llaman Espaven (dimeticona) preguntale al pediatra pero para mi son basicas! Santiago, el esposo de Betsy cargo a Julia una vez boca abajo with his hand pressing her tummy. It works every time... but ask about the Espaven!

Geor, no he podido ver a Ramon, pero yo te aviso. We will surelly need a lot of help, specially once the date gets closer. We will let you know. Gracias

Alex. Congrats!

Fernando, is your baby entirely on breast feeding? The truth is that some mothers just don't produce enough milk for the baby and he will remain hungry after a supposedly "natural" feed. I think some doctors overrate the power of breast feeding. When we had my baby daughter, my wife had plenty of milk, in fact too much. But with our son, she definitely lacked milk and we had to recur to formula.

I definitely don't think excessive baby crying can be normal as it creates tremendous stress which will hurt the baby even more in an indirect way.

I guess we were lucky to have two kids who hardly cried at all when they were babies.

Ferdie:

Regarding colicks here are a couple of comments/suggestions:
- Most colicks happen because the valve going to the stomach is not yet fully developed and therefore gastric acid irritages the kid. usually after 6-8 weeks this is developed.
Some additional suggestions:
- ensure Oliver sleeps a bit slanted with his head a bit higher. We used a binder with both kids which helped.
- have Nathalie drink "fennel-tea" during the day (fennel has the effect of an anti-acid). Caroline used to drink 2 liters. She made a jug of tea in the evening and drank it the next day.

Regarding the visit:
- Be blunt. People will understand.

For the rest, hope you are enjoying him.

Marc

Hello All:

Thought I reply to some messages (though don't know if I'll be able to complete the thoughts before my daughter calls for me).

Anacecilia: The "more than one" child debate is one Lisa (my wife) and I have had. I came from a multi-child household (three sisters and me). Though it was at times fun to have my sisters around while I grew up, it was not the easiest, and we did compete for the attention of our parents. We all showed it in different ways. I do recall times when it was extremely difficult for my mom to be there for all of us when we needed it.

Now that I have the opportunity to make the decision whether to continue adding to my family, my wife and I have enjoyed tremendously having our only daughter. Yes, she is only 9 months right now and very dependent upon us. It took a lot of concentrated energy, surviving seven miscarriages (one multiple), and five doctors monitoring us, to finally have our child (or does she have us?). Why get on the rollercoaster again? Yes, she may benefit greatly with having a sibling, but at what cost? Would we be able to devote the attention she needs when we are spending so much time and energy trying to have another (whether we adopt or not, and that's a whole other discussion)? If we are successful in having another child, with all the attention and time we spend now on one, would we be able to do the same with a second? Yes, we would manage, and give them all the love we have, but what about while I'm at work. The scenario was when Bronte (our daughter) needs attention at the same time our second child would have a need, the youngest would more than likely win out on getting the most attention, and then starts our psychological evaluation of what the long term effects of that is.

What it boiled down to is that we want to be there for our children. What that means for us is that we don't want to be pulled two seperate ways or be outnumbered when it comes to raising our children. Results: one child in our life...right now <g>. At our age, we don't have much time and we would have to start right away on a second. Not something we want to do. Waiting a couple of years to begin another may not work as my wife is older than I and we have to consider that.

Anacecilia, it truely depends on how and what you feel is best for you, your child, and your husband. If my wife and I had more time, had been independantly wealthy a lot younger, and had our first back then, we would be considering a second child now. It is not an option for us now, and we are able to give our one child the most. As far as socially, we have yet to find a play group that we would consider safe enough for our child, or parents around us that aren't new adults themselves (or adults still mentally in their teens). We don't believe in day-care either so we are challenged in finding children her age. However, she has been surrounded by children of all ages and is developing socially without a sibling.

I hope this has helped if not confused the matter for you more. Granted, my wife and I still debate the issue, though much less now as I remind her how exhausted she has been lately <g>.

Cheers and good luck on making your decision.

Fernando and to other parents: there is also a helpful website about children's health issues and it is www.kidshealth.org

Fernando: the web site for the American Academy of Pediatrics is www.aap.org. Hang in there!! The first few weeks are the toughest especially being sleep deprived. Alessa, whom is breastfed was up every two to three hours until 3 weeks ago (she was 12 weeks old then) and she now goes for 5 to 7 hour stretches at night. I found it easier to have her sleep in bed with us for those first few weeks because neither one of us had to wake up completely in order for her to eat--although I did find out the hard way that her diaper does need to be changed at least once during the night!!

Fernando: I feel for you guys having a colicky baby. As Tonio and Georgina illuded to, it can be something that the mother ate--however, more and more pediatricians are getting away from that concept and are leaning more to that colick may be do to an immature nervous system. This is found more frequently in boys than girls and they eventually (between 3 and 6 months) outgrow it. If Oliver is bottle fed, however, he may have some real allergies to the types of proteins or the whey or caseins that are used in formula. I know parents have tried all sorts of foods and formulas to no avail. One thing that will help is to set up some sort of coping system--ie: you take him for awhile while Nathalie gets out of the house and vice a versa. Yes, in laws can be a pain but you may want to take advantage of them while he is in a colicky state.

Some colicky babies like to be held close and a front Baby Back Pack like a Baby Bjorn may be helpful.. Try avoiding overstimulating the baby as this may upset him more.

Our household was inundated with visitors and since my in laws live only 1 1/2 hours away it was mainly them. I was so fed up with their calls, and visits (and whining that they didn't see Alessa enough) that 4 weeks ago I finally broke down sobbing at 2:00 am and I told my husband that our marriage was seriously going to be in trouble if we didn't get a break. After all, I married him, not his family. He DEFINATELY took the hint and now we see them only every other month.

For more info on colick you may want to try the American Academy of Pediatrics web site

Sarita: Que gusto saber de ti! Me estaba acordando de las noches que me quedaba a dormir en tu casa y jugabamos a ser gimanastas. Te acuerdas? Hechabamos maromas por todas partes! Me encanta saber de ti. Eres mi amiga de toda la vida! Por ahi tengo una foto de cuando teniamos como 2 or 3 anos!

Alex: Congratulations! I'm very happy for you and your wife! I originally wanted three chidren, but after two, John and a I have decided to call it quits!

Fer: DO NOT WORRY! IT DOES GET BETTER! But anyway, I can soooo relate! My baby boy (who is now one) did lots of crying. Turns out that he had intolerance to dairy products. Even though he was entirely breast fed for 7 months, he had the hardest time if I had anything with dairy in it! Couldn't have anything with butter, cream, milk, yoghurt, cheese, etc. And I mean anything! He'd get really bad, to the point of even having a little blood in his poop once! So the pediatrician put me on a completely dairy free diet. No, milk based formula for the baby, and turns out he was allergic to soy too. So the only formula he was eventually able to take was something that tastes wickedly awful called Alimentum. The doctor told me he would outgrow everything and he definitely did. But I must say, that milk allergy did is something that makes them very unhappy. Regarding visitors - I know it's hard to turn them away, don't worry, they'll tend to slow down. I was actually very blunt with some people and told them no when they asked if they could come stay with us a few days to see the baby. Regarding spending no time alone: John and I have made it a point to go out one night a week every since our first baby was born. It makes a huge difference! And it is a law neither one of us is allowed to break; no business meetings, or anything will get in the way. We have a baby sitter who is scheduled to come every Wednesday rain or shine! Anyway, don't worry, it's a huge adjustment for both of you and it's so normal to feel on the edge!

Ana: Parece que Alex has it all figured out regarding el Gazette. Quieres que ayude con alguna otra cosa? Como les habia dicho tengo primas en Mexico que me pueden ayudar. Si es necesario, ellas pueden aydar con group baby sitting. John y yo tenemos planeado ir a la reunion del Jueves en la noche, el Viernes en la noche, y el Sabado por la manana. El resto del tiempo pensamos visitar a algunas de mis tias (ya estan todas muy viejitas!) y algunas otras amistades.

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Fer: By the way, Delphine says that the second one gets better.

By the way, when we go to Germany to visit my sister and decide to visit you. Do we visit before or after your relatives?????? LOL :)

For both of you Nathalie and Fer straight from the desk of Delphine, my wife.

number 1: delphine agrees it could be a baby with "colicos". is nathalie breast feeding? if so, it could be that she is eating something a little irritating for oliver. it could be also that she is a little stressed. ZEN, Nathalie, ZEN, the baby feels everything. Take a deep breath. if not or if she is combining with bottle, the milk might be a problem, try to put some more water in the milk. or, big "or", could it be a "maña", does oliver stop crying the moment you pick him up? if so, it is a bad habit, too many relatives around too little parent discipline, he is liking to be over pampered. (delphine and toño laughing out loud).

family: enjoy the ride with the visitors, you will not be able to avoid it, but do not break the rest schedule of the baby, NO MATTER WHO OR WHAT???? GOT IT!!!!!!! Delph says that at three months it gets better. There is no problem if your in laws will be closer, again DO NOT BREAK THE SCHEDULE OF THE BABY!!!!!!! He is number one, everyone else will have the chance to see him for the next 18 years until he can decide, instead of you, who will he see. plus having family close by lets you and Nathalie escape the parenting one evening once in a while. by the way, try do go out by yourselves once in a while, even if you prefer staying with the baby, it is very healthy for you two!!!!

and again, Nathalie and Fernando, welcome to parenting!!! and it is only the beginning. May the force be with you.

Give us a call, we are closer than anyone else except your in laws and Mark Buhler. Iniguez family emergency call phone number: 33-1-64-91-5469!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or as Delphine says, if you want to avoid all problems with Oliver do it the African way: Nathalie gets a "rebozo" and carries Oliver on her back for the next three to four years, sleeps with him as well, showers with him, etc, etc, etc. No? I did not think so. CALL US!!!!!!!!!

Hi again,

Sara- ¡Qué gusto tenerte con nosotros! Por favor pasa la voz a cuanta gente veas.

Marcie- Good luck to both of you. I cannot even begin to imagine the kind of mixed emotions you must be having: Pride to see her grow up and go off to college, and sadness because she is leaving. I will pray.

Toño- You crack me up! I can’t wait to see you! Unfortunately it is kind of hard for us to travel with Oliver right now, but come the end of the year we will definitely visit. Was it you that told me your wife had relatives in Germany? If so, and you are planning to visit, let me know so perhaps you can stop by for a quick visit.

O.K. Time to ask for advice on two fronts from all of those who have babies:

1- Oliver will just simply not stop crying. I mean, my logical side told me that a baby could not possible cry for more than 1 or max 2 hours straight (has anyone tried speaking for that long? Your throat could not possibly take it), but this guy can go on for 3 or 4 hours without a break. We have tried everything in the books, and have even given him some medicines the doctor prescribed, but Nothing seems to work. According to the doctor it is because he is a very “colicky baby”, but not only are we completely sleep deprived, our nerves are on edge all the time. The doctor says it will be over after 3 or 4 months, but who can stand it for so long? Has any one out there been there? What did you do about it?

2- Since Oliver was born 3 weeks ago I think we have been by ourselves 3 days, and I am not exaggerating here. We have visits from people wanting to see the baby every single day, mostly from Nathalie’s family.... Her aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, parents, brother, I mean, everyone has been here! I know all of them mean well, but I suspect that part of the reason Oliver is so colicky is because he has had very few days when he can be at piece resting 100%. To make matters worse when we move to Belgium towards the end of the year due to my new job we will only be living 2 hours away from most of her family (instead of the 6 hours we now have), and I already got comments from her mom and other family members saying they are sooo happy we will move because then they can come visit us more often – “even just to have coffee any given afternoon”. How does one go about saying tactfully (without getting in a fight with the wife and/or wife’s family) “We love you, but please do not come over sooo often”?

Any comments/suggestions are very welcomed!

Till next time, take care.

Marcie: I agree with Brian. Instructions are not to be read unless an emergency arrives, you know, lots of smoke, a couple of flames, something starts melting, an awkward bent piece after installation, over 2-6 hours failing to accomplish (depends on the stubbornness of the subject), that sort of thing. Manual instructions limit creativity. Take a computer for example. Manuals are not thrown to the garbage because the machine or the software costs so much; but they might as well be since we discard them and leave them inside the box at the back of the attic adding dust. A problem arises like trying to include an “ñ” on your document. What do we do? We spend thirty minutes repeating the task in all possible forms to see if it works. Not solved? No problem we call someone that supposedly knows (studied computer courses) but is as machine illiterate as ourselves to help us out, another thirty minutes. You follow the advice and change “a little” the configuration of the machine. “Simple,” they said, “just modify your keyboard” or something like that. Big mistake! Plus you spend thirty minutes figuring out how to do it. Not solved? Obviously not! The machine freezes or starts acting up in incredible and annoying ways. Next step, use the “virtual hammer” procedure, TURN IT OFF. Turn it on. Problem solved? Ha! You spend another thirty minutes to an hour trying to restart your computer without it going into the “no error” start (for those who fight with Windows like me) mode. Finally, you are able to start your computer. So how much time is that? Two hours. Okay, let’s not panic, take a deep breath. Think, think, think. Nothing? And you lost thirty minutes more? Hmmm. Pull out the manual for crying out loud!!!!!! You give in, you open the manual (obviously after spending thirty minutes finding it and pulling it out). Decode it (manuals usually come coded, write your nearest FBI or CIA community office for the codes, in case of problems call the Pentagon directly) and attempt to go straight to the page to find the answer. Another thirty minutes (at least) pass and no cigar. You decide to start reading the manual, the size of a Bible (sorry, Alex, form of speech), from the very beginning. You find incredible hints and concepts that you had no idea the machine could do, but… and your “ñ”? Nothing. One hour later and at the end, way at the end of the manual (only because you grew impatient, decided to look at the index and by accident arrived to the appendix section) you find some tables with all the letters you can imagine and a number or code in front of each one. At the top the title is “ASCII characters”. And yes!!!! You see the little “ñ” right in the middle of the page, sitting pretty as it can be and smiling back at you. In front you see a code “164”. By this time, it is already early evening. An hour later after referencing “ASCII” all over the manual you figure out that somehow you can use this table. But how? So, here comes your nearest “I stick my nose into everything that has nothing to do with my life” person, could be your husband, child, neighbor, pal, annoying family member, etc. We all have at least one around us. Looks at the mess, looks at your face and asks with this complete worried tone of voice, “What’s going on? What are you doing? What are you looking for?” You start explaining that you have been trying to find out how to insert this special letter that… “Special letter?”, your meddler says, without letting you finish the sentence, “no problem those are called special characters and you can insert them in two ways!” Two ways!!!!!! Not one, but two ways to solve the problem. Your “chismoso” shows you in real that you use the insert special character command on the menu or, the fastest way, you press the key ALT and at the same time you type 164 on your number keypad. So that’s when the code comes to play!!!!!!! All this last procedure lasted, tops, 30 seconds.

Hey!
Thank you Marcie, I can't hardly believe we got another little one on the way! Unbelievable! I'll have more baby stories to tell!

Geor y Anaceci, I do not mean put pictures on a page and get photocopies in black and white, I mean have a prophesional job done where we would have like an Alumni Gazzette looking 20 year anniversary picture book, in color and glossy, with pictures showing our lives the last 20 years, college, marriage, military etc etc. I will go to a printshop here and ask how much it would cost to print some booklets or magazines, I think its not expensive. Maybe you can all send me your collage by a certain date and I'll have them printed and mailed to each one or delivered at the reunion. By the way, all, how about moving the reunion to January or Feb. because I don't think I could make it in May since my new baby is due then, and he or she couldn't travel outside the U.S. till after 8 months or so, porfavor? Anaceci, I just wash the bottles by hand or dishwasher, or my wife, and the baby is doing just fine and we have no melted nirples
OK, hey, coach Everest emailed me today, he turned 50 years old yesterday! Email him happy birthday!

Hi all, As you read from Sammy and Yolanda, We had a GREAT mini mini class reunion! It was so exciting... and it was only four of us. Ademas, todos nos vemos taaan bien. Yolanda es increible, igualita y muy guapa. Como dijo Sammy, Renne es su doble. I took some pictures that I will post soon. Javi y Sammy tambien estan iguales. (A couple of grey hairs y ya) y el peqeno Mathias, guapissimo y trilingue. Como anecdota, I had left my sterilizer in Mexico so when I got to my inlaws, I couldn't wash Julia"s bottles, so I decided to boil them. Needless to say, we get to the reunion,I have to feed Julia and... surprise, the holes melted and no milk would come out! So,when Renee mentioned that Julia will be a singer, she just forgot to say what type of singer Julia will be! Por suerte, I was among experienced parents y Julia finally got her dinner.

Marcie, wish Erin good luck for me, and for you too!

Sara, que bueno que estas ya en esto, Porfa avisale a todos los que ves. Espero pasar a ver a Jackie a la escuela para "recrutarla" la semana que entra. Haber si nos vemos.

Geor. Alex sugirio que si cada quien manda una pagina with what we have done, pictures etc, we could photocopy it and make a little "yearbook". It would have to be black and white and we would make copies for those interested and charge for the cost. maybe engargolado. Que piensas?

Alex- sincere CONGRATULATIONS!! Wow, you will be even busier. I know one thing, when you have three children, you may as well have ten!
Tonio- Your swing story is the best! I wondered though, did you read the manual before you started, or after you got started? Brian never reads the manual before starting, but believe me, he always ends up reading it sometime during assembly.
Well people, only ten more days, and we are taking our daughter Erin off to college. She will be two and a half hours away from me :( Please say a prayer for me, I think this will be a tough one.
Hope you are all well. Big hugs.

Ana Ceci: Hola!I have glanzed at previous messages regarding lo del alumni gazette pero no lo encuentro. Me puedes ayudar a saber de que se trata para poderlo organizar?
Mi brother in law es dueno de una agencia de viajes enorme (McCord Travel). Su especilaidad es organizar viajes para grupos y corporate travel. Es posible que nos puedan ayudar a conseguir muy buenos deals con air fares y hoteles if we use them as a group. Crees que los podamos necesitar?

Sara: Great to hear from you! Welcome home. If you go back some messages you will find out my story.

Well, now I write as a resident of the Limours metropole (not more than 5,000 people) and a good share of suburb yuppie Parisians (pffff!, as they would say here).

The swing: Since we have a decent size garden and the monsters (as in my children) like swings, my lovely wife (may God continue to keep her in His bright side so she can come up with great ideas ?!?!) with the help of the great (as in grandmother of my wife) grandmother (that promised to pay for the deed) decided to get a swing. So there we go and tour all the stores with the propensity of offering swings in their product lines. We visited 32,568 stores (I counted!!!) only to find the right swing in the store across the street (no, I exaggerate, actually the store is right across the street from my work). How much can five tubes weigh? A ton. How can you insert the whole package inside a Honda Civic? You can’t, only half of it fits, the other half is precariously hanging from the back. How can you avoid French cops who love hanging out on the millions of “glorietas”? (turn arounds or “glorietas” are the universal traffic solution for the French authorities as are bumpers or “topes” for Mexico, yes of course in Mexico they come coupled with the “pasos a desnivel” or bridges) You drive down to Barcelona, turn west, go up to Great Britain, go through Paris (no one pays attention to you there) and join the “Tour de France” cyclists as they pass your town, make sure and avoid Lance Armstrong since all cameras are on him (anyone does not know who Lance is? Do your homework he is the latest golden boy in the USA). How many nuts and bolts can a swing have? 103,557 of each plus the damn things are designed to avoid any easy installation, no way in the world can you use decent tools on them. How long does it take to assemble a swing? Officially in the manual: two hours. In reality: two days. Either the people that write the instructions and time the assembly are retards or we missed a turn on our way home and dropped half of the instructions. Phew!!!!, finally finished.

NOPE.

You have to fix the swing to the floor. How? Make four holes, a cubic foot each will be enough, so they said. It will take you an Olympic training cycle (four years for the lay people) to be in the shape necessary to beat tree roots. Next? Put the swing into the holes attempting to have all legs at the same level (ha, ha, ha, they are close enough) Now? Fill‘em up with concrete. How? Get a sack of concrete mixture (another 5,326 stores), try to carry it (ha, good luck), try to mix it (not even Alex Loya in his best days could do it), try to pour it (nice mess, almost decided to do a plaza the size of the “Zocalo” due to the spills). What in the world does concrete have? A sack of forty kilos feels like it weighs like a full cow (milk and all), felt like Superman facing kryptonite!!!

Now!!!!!!! Convince a 6 and a 5 year old that they have to wait a day to use the contraption.

And how was my week end you ask? You tell me.

Was this too long? Sorry.

Hey everyone! I haven't been around here much because I'm involved in some ongoing theological debate at the message board I hooked up. Just to say hi and to briefly tell you that, man, I am beginning to figure out what people who trust God for birth control are called... parents! They are called parents! People who trust God for birth control are called parents! Mom and dad! Paw, maw, papa, mama, papi, mami etc. etc. We found out today my wife is pregnant again!PRAISE THE LORD! I am very happy, but at the same time I'm bummed out because the new baby is due in May of next year, which means I won't be able to make it to the reunion... bummer to the max! And I want to see all of you so bad!... You know what would be great?, if you guys would move the reunion up to January or February! Porfavor! Para que les presente a mi esposa y a mis hijos! Come on, man, move the reunion to January or February! No les cuesta nada! Please, please, please, please!...

Sara - Ahora que ya te aventaste a poner un mensaje, tienes que animar a nuestra colega y amiga Dina a que nos de un mensaje - no? He visto fotos tuyas de repente en el gazette y no has cambiado nada - Cual es tu secreto?

Como dijo Sammy, estuvimos muy a gusto la semana pasada, la hija de Anaceci esta bella y mi hija Renée esta convencida que Julia va ser cantante por los pulmones que tiene (-:

Javier - Tu hijo Mathias es encantador y Odil guapisima como siempre. Let's do this again soon!

Bueno - me voy a la escuela a conectar computadoras.

Sammy, Ana, Yola y Javi: Que bueno que se pudieron ver por lo menos unas horas. Han de ver tenido muy buenas memorias..

Sara: Bienvenida, que bueno que decidiste entrar al message board. Hellen me habia platicado que vivias en Mexico y tenias a tres preciosos hijos. Felicidades. Me da mucho gusto saber de ti otra vez.

Hola a todos. Ayer nos juntamos Ana Cecilia, su esposo John, y su hija Julia, Javier, su esposa Odille, y hijito Mathias, y Yolanda, con su hija (doble) Renee, en San Francisco. For those of you who remember Yolanda as an eight year old girl, It was amazing to see her AGAIN embodied in her daughter Renee. You will see what I mean next year at the reunion. Nos juntamos en un cafe frances en el centro de la ciudad y nos pasamos dos horas muy contentos. It was as if we had just seen each other the week before, and were continuing a conversation we had just started. Se nos pasaron las dos horas muy rapido recordando los nombres de nuestros maestros, amistades, etc... Renee entreteniendo a Mathias, y John super buena gente cuidando a Julia todo el tiempo dandole tiempo a Ana Cecilia de platicar con nosotros. It was a very fun small taste of what the reunion will be like next year. Tambien discutimos que tal vez deberiamos de ofrecer 3 hoteles de diferentes precios para dar mas opciones a los que vienen de muy lejos o los que quieran traer a su familia, o quieran gastar menos. Que creen ustedes?

Sara BIENVENIDA!! Que gusto leer tu carta. Me va a dar muchisimo gusto verte en la reunion :)

¡Hola a todos!
No puedo creer la comunicación que hay aquí! LLEVO 1/2 HORA CON UNA SONRISA EN LA BOCA NADA MAS DE LEER DE TODOS!
Desde este momento que me incorporo a estos chats, es como empezar a disfrutar la reunión...Que gusto me dio oir de Yola!!! (Cuando vienes?), de Toño(De ti si que me dio gusto, en donde estás?), de Sammy (Te queda lo de psicólogo, haz de ser ch..., de Shelley Levin!!!(Felicidades Shelley) vives en Israel aún? Felicidades por Jeremy Adam, De Geor... sentí mucho lo de tu papi, me acuerdo muy bien de él, acuerdate que te conozco desde los 2 o 3 años!!!, de Javi (También vives en San Diego donde esta Ana, o donde? De Fer, tambien acabas de ser papá, de cuantos?, Felicidades.
Yo les cuento que estoy casada con Gerry Pascal, un chavo de Uruguay que conocí aquí en Mexico, desde hace más de 16 años! Tenemos 3 super hijos, lo máximo.
Ian tiene 11 y pasó a middle school a 6th grade! al mall ese que le llaman edificio de middle school. No más caballerizas...
Philippe tiene 10 y va en 5to, es un chavazo, es gimnasta y super dulce.
y luego mi maravillita, Denise de 6 que acaba de entrar a la big school a 1st grade.
Yo soy diseñadora grafica y trabajo en las mañanas como coordinadora del departamento de audiovisuales en una escuela nueva cerca de casa. En las tardes estoy con mis hijos, sus clases, las mías.
Bueno chicas, it was sooo nice talking to you guys. Love, Sara

Ana, Javi, Yola, y Sammy: Se juntaron en San Fran? Platiquenos!

Ingrid y Shelly: Que tal si nos juntamos? Shelley: me encantaria conocer a tus nenes!

fer: congratulations or as they say around here, "merde!" (do not answer anything if not it is bad luck); i was planning to get a great deal on a system but i guess now it will be on a television.

I guess 401 it is for me.

Shelley: Muchas felicidades. You, like I, must be walking on clouds!

Last minute news: For some time now I had been looking for a job change, and I finally landed something I really like. So the way it looks, I will start working for Sony in Brussels, Belgium at the beginning of October. Within Sony I will be in charge of developing their sales through internet in Europe.

Even though I will officially be with Hewlett Packard till the end of September, since I have lots of vacations accumulated my last day of work in the company will be tomorrow Friday, August the 18th . If you want to send me e-mails in the future please send them to my personal e-mail address (fnfuentes@yahoo.com), as it will obviously become harder for me to get the ones in HP.

During the months of October and November I will be traveling back and forth between Belgium and Germany (or Holland depending on where Nathalie is), and I estimate we will finally move houses at the end of November. When I have my new address I will post it here.

Like always, take care of yourselves.

I just logged on to read new messages, and saw that I'd be message number 400, if I acted quickly! So, nothing new to report, but we made it to 400, and the reunion is still 9 months away!

Shelly: Mil felicidades por tu baby! Estaras ocupadisima pero super vale la pena. Es padrisimo cuando empiezan a jugar juntos!

muchas felicidades shelley! por el nuevo bebe

Hola Anaceci - Curiosamente acabo de regresar hoy de pasar el dia en St. Helena en Napa Valley que no queda lejos de Santa Rosa. El día estuvo maravilloso. Voy a apuntar el dia jueves para tratar de reunirme contigo y con Javier/Sammy. Estoy en el proceso de una compra/venta de casa y aparte estoy empezando de nuevo en la escuela donde trabajo pero voy a tratar de darme una escapadita.
Javier - avisame donde deciden. En el Embarcadero hay bastantes restaurantes. El nombre del restaurante por el momento se me escapa, pero esta cerca del hotel Hyatt.
Kelly - you would not believe how quickly you would come to appreciate nature once you really get away from civilization. I loved it, but I'm sure my family appreciated that I was able to shower before going back home to greet them (-: (-: Our group had one powerful B.O.

Yolanda - Your trip sounds amazing. We bought a pop-up camper last year (that's as "nature" as I get!), and have had lots of fun excursions in it. Kids LOVE it - I still miss hot water and a real toilet, but I'm adjusting.

Am having MAJOR withdrawals over cacahuates...remember eating them every afternoon in 8th grade? David Baird promised me he'd bring me some back after their reunion this past May, but he forgot until he arrived at the airport, so could only get me 3 bags (David, if you're reading this - I LOVED the 3 bags, but was hoping for a TRUNK-load!). I plan to take an empty suitcase next spring...

Shelley:
Many many congratulations! Nice to see you are back.

Anacecilia:
Yes, I can meet on Thursday. Call me at (415) 551 0771 and we'll arrange a time and place. Yolanda and Sammy?

Dear Sue M. Thanks so much for answering my question so well. It couldn't have come from a nicer person! (I didn't know you were an only child and NO you're not selfish or spoiled!)
Gracias Cindy too.

Geor. La semana que entra me voy a ver con Ramon. Thanks for your help. How about you organizing the "81 Gazette que propuso Alex?

Sammy, Javi y Yola. I will be flying to SF tomorrow. I will stay at my inlaws which is in Forestville (north of Santa Rosa_Russian River)707 887 7832. We plan on going to SF on Thursday so that the people from the office can meet Julia. The office is in Sacramento St. (353) in front of One Embarcadero. Any chance we can meet sometime then? We will have some friends of John come over on Sunday (barbacue and swimming in the River)kids love it. If you are willing to drive up, it would be great! I will call you tomorrow anyways as I will not be taking the computer with me! We really want it to be a vacation,for once.

Hola amigos: No puedo creer cuantos mensages ya hay! The last time I participated, we had about 50 or 60, y ya hay casi 400! You can't blink for too long! Well, my excuse is that I was a little busy having a baby. Jeremy Adam nacio hace 3 semanas, y mi hija, Alana acaba de cumplir 3 años...so it's a little busy around here.

Felicidades Fernando! Y a ti tambien, Yolanda por tu cumpleaños. Hola Javi! Y Georgina. Donde esta Karen? Me acuerdo de ustedes siempre juntas (usually picking on me!) Ceci - thanks for your email. I am always grateful for your loyal friendship.

Me dio mucho placer leer todos los mensages (at least the ones I could inhale in between baby feedings), y espero participar mas. Saludos a todos!

p.s. did anyone answer the question of where to post las fotos? MSN or Yahoo? Can someone give me the URL?

Ana Ceci, Fer, y Ramon: I might be able to organize some of the events en Mexico. Contacte a tres primas en el D.F. que me puedan ayudar con reservaciones, planes, or whatever. Let me know what you would like me to take care of.

Sammy: Yo tambien me acuerdo mucho de ti. No doubt in my mind that you are a great psicologo! Patty Olachea vive en Houston y tambien es psicologa. Creo que esta en el proceso de hacer un PhD or algo asi. Mi hermano Julio esta muy bien. Vive en NYC y trabaja en el area de investment banking. Viaja mucho. Se acaba de hacer U.S. citizen. Lo mas nuevo con el es que he just got engaged to a great lady from Russia. Mi papa se murio en 1991, bad cancer. Todavia lo extrano muchisimo. Mi mama esta bien y vive en Veracruz con su familia. Me encanta Sara with her comments! Yo tambien tengo una hija de casi 3 1/2. Se llama Rebecca. Her big thing is to put on a white dress and my wedding veil and say she's going to marry daddy! Me divierto muchisimo con ella (great excuse to become a child again!). Our son will have his first birthday on the 25th. He's adorable. Todavia no camina pero he's crawling everywhere. They're both at a great age!

Fernando felicidades. I also remember the "stare at the baby" game that John referred to. It still is my favorite thing to do and Sarah is now three and a half. Yesterday I called home from work and she said to me on the phone:" I am thinking about you in my heart and my heart is beating so hard about you" Que te parece? La hija de un SHRINK in touch with her feelings. The greatest compliment she ever gave me was when she was about two years old and she called me "PAMA". I liked that she viewed me as a mixture of both. Treasure these first months. Your baby will change fast right before your eyes.

Georgina que gusto saber de ti y saber que estas tan cerca. Me acuerdo muchisimo de ti. Como esta el mago? Tus pas? Espero verte pronto.

Anacecilia cuando llegas? Me hablas porfavor.

Ana y Ramon;
Dejenme saber en que les puedo ayudar.
Alex

Edited by author 08-12-2000 09:27 AM
Ingrid: Hello my friend! Que padre que vivas cerca. Hace poco me acordaba de un reventon en tu casa cuando estabamos en septimo. Despues de la fiesta un monton nos quedamos a dormir en tu casa. El dia siguiente desayunamos pancakes e hizimos un tremendo mess en la cocina. Te acuerdas? Me encantaria verte. Te hablo al rato (todavia es medio temprano pero mis nenes ya se levantaron).

Edited by author 08-12-2000 04:41 AM
Dear all,

Today Nathalie and the baby are coming home from the hospital, so I do not have a lot of time to write tons. In any case, thanks to all for the kind words of congratulations – both Nathalie and I really appreciate them. :-)))))

Recently there have been some comments asking for an update of where we are with the organization of our Reunion, designated hotel, etc. FYI, for some time now some of us have been exchanging e-mails with ideas and suggestions of what we could do. The following is the ad that I am submitting to the editors of the Alumni Gazette so that it appears on the fall issue. We are far from having everything ready and perfectly organized, but we are making some progress. In it you will be able to see some of the initial ideas being thrown around with some answers to your questions.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT WE NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS TO GET THINGS ORGANIZED. So far, out of all our classmates living in Mexico only Ramón Ricoy and Anacecilia Perez-Vargas are working on this, and it would be impossible for them to get all the listed activities organized by themselves. Bottom line is if we do not get more volunteers our reunion will be drastically reduced in the amount of things organized – perhaps only 3 activities would remain if no one else comes onboard. Therefore, COME ON OUT AND JOIN IN THE ORGANIZATION OF OUR REUNION. YES, THIS IS MEANT FOR EVERYONE!!! Enough said.

Abrazo a todos y beso a todas

=========================================================
CLASS OF '81 TWENTY YEAR REUNION

When: Thursday, May 24th to Sunday, May 27th, 2001

Where: Mexico City and surrounding areas

Who: All the Class of ’81 members, and members of any other class who are game to
Join in on the fun!

Tentative list of events:

º “Welcome Back / Break the Ice” casual party on Thursday evening

º “Families with Children” visit to “Museo del Papalote” on Friday morning

º “Lets Get Reacquainted” semiformal party on Friday night

º “School Campus Tour” on Saturday morning

º “All Family Included” lunch on Saturday Afternoon

º “Lets Get Down to Business” party on Saturday night

º “The Day After Survivors” breakfast early Sunday morning

º “Goodbye With Tears In Our Eyes” brunch on Sunday at noon

All activities will be independent of each other so you can choose which ones you want to attend. Those attending all the activities… will certainly have more fun!!

For those coming out of town the designated hotel is the Presidente Intercontinental.

More details will be available with time. For more information please get in touch with your designated class contact as established on the Class of ’81 - 20 Year Reunion web page at http://muffin.eecs.uic.edu/AHS81/Reunion.htm, or send a fax with your questions to the attention of Ramón Ricoy at (525)547-2376 or (525)547-4584.

Come onboard now by visiting our message board at http://www.takeitoffline.com/1/H/yW3mK4HhigT3Tr9s7J.html, and post a message for everyone to read. We are currently going on our 400th message!!!

To all those who already now know they will be coming to the reunion, please advise your designated class contact what activities you are planning to join so we can start planning on the amount of people. Also advise if you would like to have a group baby-sitter service organized.

Notice: We need volunteers to help organize the above mentioned list of activities. Please donate a bit of your time to help put this whole thing together. If you want to help, please get in touch with Ramon Ricoy (Phone: (52) 5291 0881, E-Mail: ricoyr@yahoo.com) or Anacecilia Perez-Vargas (Phone: (52) 5570 4827, E-Mail: comaj@iserve.net.com).

Cindy P. Yeah, you right! That's New Orleans! You used to live here too? Where at? I love roast beef poor boys with a nice, cold... Dr. Pepper!

Jennifer W. hey! I got Coach Everest's email! You want it? I'm sure he won't mind me passing it along, here it is:
<everesta@saints.nfl.com>
I'm sure he'd love to hear from all of us Fightin' Bears! We trained him for the pro's, didn't we? I saw him on the local 10 o'clock news just last week. He doesn't have just a few gray hairs, his whole head of hair is totally white! I will email him as soon as I am finished here and will pass on your regards.

Fer, the delivery of the next kids you have should be a lot easier. When lil'A was born last November, he came out like a torpedo! I mean, he came out so quick the nurse had to literally rush out the door and grab the first doctor she bumped into in the hall to come just catch my baby! I mean, the doctor had to just literally rush in and just dive for the catch como portero parando el gol o como defensive end just diving in for the interception!

David Rae, Robert Trejo and I used to sometimes eat dinner together at the British Hospital across the street when I used to stay after school for the Boy Scouts of America meeting every Tuesday. I think as kids he payed me to be his bodyguard... huh... I had forgotten all about that!

Tono, you are brave to admit you are scared, I'm scared and
I'm afraid to admit it! (just kidding, I ain't scared, I ain't scared!)

Mugre Alex chismoso! I see how you are... I see how you are... as for "the throne" all I can say is... it's good to be the king!

Boy oh boy ... I must really move alot if Sue Snyder still thinks I'm in Tampa! Sue, I moved from Tampa to Atlanta in May '99 and just moved to Hershey, PA in June! I am opening another spa, due to open at the end of this year or maybe the beginning of 2001. We are at the mercy of the contractors. The Hotel Hershey is a Historic Hotel of America built in 1933 by Milton Hershey (of chocolate fame). Yes, on a good day, the scent of cocoa fills the air since the chocolate factory is about a mile from the hotel. It really is a beautiful little town, clean and green, just the way Mr. Hershey wanted it!

Cindy P., sorry I have not participated recently. I have been pretty busy with all of the planning of the new spa and trying to get settled into my new apartment. I'm almost there, just need to find a spot for all of my "things" that I have collected over the years. I figure by the time everything has its place, it will be time to move again! Yuck, I hate moving. I hope to stay planted here for a while.

Fernando, congrats on the birth of Oliver. I have enjoyed reading everyone's messages about their kids. Being that I don't have any, its interesting to read about how they affect everyone's lives. I'm sure that Oliver will have wonderful effects on your life!

Alex L. When you see or speak to Coach Everest, please say hi to him for me. I saw him last year when the Cardinals played the Falcons in Atlanta. Its amazing how all of his mannerisms are just as I remember them almost 20 years ago. The only thing that is different about him is a few grey hairs, but don't we all have a few of those! I also saw Coach when I lived in Tampa. Don't think I'll be running in to him here in Hershey though.

I hope that everyone is well and enjoying a wonderful summer! I know I am ... taking advantage of not having any employees to deal with is great. But soon enough, I'll have my share of that in just a few months. Sometimes I consider all of the employees my children. Maybe that's why I don't feel that tick tock ... Alex L ... some of us feel the tick tock, others don't! : )

Take care all!

Wow! Go offline for a short period of time and the messages sure pile up.
John B. I have fond memories of "Jungle Man" but unfortunately do not have a copy of the production. Wonder where it might be?? Have you heard anything from the other stars of the show? I have kept in touch with Betsy Bronson who now lives in Merritt Island. Also, don't know if Jessica (your sister) ever told you but I literally ran into her about 10 years ago at the Burdines store at Dadeland Mall in Miami. We walked by each other, both stopped and said "Don't I know you?" This was all the more unusual in that I had also run into her at a concert in Austin Texas when I was going to school out there. (along with Bill Parra and a few other AHS alumni). Small world!
In my travels, I've also come across a few of the folks I had last seen in 8th grade.
Fernando F. Congrats on the baby! Sounds like you had a real experience. During my last delivery, the baby's dad was comfortably snoozing in one of those nice comfy recliner chairs they provide for dads to sit in. Enjoy every minute...they grow up way too fast. My 11 year old is 5'5" tall already and just about to enter 6th grade.
Marcie: Sounds like you've been really busy. Last time we corresponded was my first year at UT. I'm amazed at how the time has gotten away. How do you like working in the dental field? I hear that Jennifer WS is spa director at Saddlebrook which is in Tampa (about 3 hours' drive). Jennifer, if you're out there, let me know how to find you there. I keep telling myself that "one of these days" I'm going to treat myself to time at a spa.
Oops, have lots more to say but running out of time. Kids are calling.
My best to all,
Sue

Tono: Don't worry, Alex L. would never make it to the field. I remember Alex was always late for football practice. There was not one day in which Alex would not be late. We all wondered why he was late, so several of us stayed behind to find out what he did in the locker rooms. Come to find out, Alex Loya had a daily routine that included a visit to the throne (el trono) for about 15 minutes and then stood in front of the mirror for about 10 minutes putting on some type of facial lotion.Remember back then he was the HULK... So don't worry, even if we would happen to play a football game, Alex would not show up on time.

Alex L: Sorry my friend, had to tell on your secret...

Cindy: My pleasure. Looking forward to seeing you and your family during the reunion.

Ingrid: What films have you participated in? As a hobbie, I belong to a talent agency in Phoenix (The Leighton Agency) and I do TV commercials, print ads, radio and TV voice overs and industrial films. Are you a SAG member?
We definetly have to have tacos al pastor. I can't wait. I think this is the food that I most crave. I haven't been able to find a true taco al pastor in Phoenix.

Yola: Happy belated b-day. Muchos saludos...


Hey, no update on the class reunion yet...What is going on?

Hello class! I know my name does not appear often, it is just too busy a world. Hopefully all these wonderful millenium babies will bring their parents to the reunion, so we can see what their parents are up to, not just in print. All other children should try convincing their parents to be present. My hopes are set on the visit to the school grounds in daytime. Families work best that way.
Fernando and Nathalie: sorry you had such a long delivery. The fact is that big babies are harder to send out. Oliver will give you many joys. (Any coincidence with our boy?)
Our 15 year old, Andre, is in Kingwood with my parents, to begin his sophomore year there, in the livable forrest. He can ride his bike to school in 20 minutes. Our 12 year old, Oliver, has me follow him while on his bike on Avenida Durango, yes... different environment, many pretty trees as well. He will be doing sexto de primaria.
 We will send all of you best wishes for health and happiness.

I tell you, you really can't leave this sight for more than a few days, it takes long to catch up!!
Fernando and Nathalie: congrats!!Welcome to the world of sleep deprivation-it does get better! The first 6 weeks were the worst..Alessandra is now 3 months old (12 lbs) and now sleeps for 4 to 5 hours at a stretch...

Alex J. Thanks for the tip in the Tools menu bar. It's embarassing being so computer illiterate!! I was able to successfully figure it out--I owe you!!

Javi--thanks for the brief discussion of structural adaptations for earthquakes. I guess I asked because Colorado does not do any type (as far as I am aware) yet we have had several smaller scale earthquakes (3's)--but there are predictions for more. I do understand the eastern seaboard is due for one in the next 20 years or so. Does your two year old speak English or Spanish or both?

Alex L: Don't forget "Where you at?" or "Whatch you did" or "Yeah, you right". I do miss fried oyster poorboys with a cold Dixie beer...

Jodi: Are you still living in Louisiana? Where did you live when you went to college?

David Rae: I remember Robert Trejo! We where in Independent study in Mrs. Ferry's class along with Jack Depocas...It would be great if Robert would join the board. Does anyone know what happen to Jack?

Speaking of Jacks...Does any one know the whereabouts of Jack Richmond?

Ingrid: thanks for the invite. The same goes here.. Tellme more about your Outward Bound Adventure. I live in Colorado...If you can, take some time off (at least 3 months if not more) after having a little one. It is hard to go back to work though. It is a struggle between professional fulfillment and having something so cute that smiles all of the time that you don't want to give her to anyone else!!! The nicest thing about waiting until our age is the maturity that comes with it--most of us have got our career goals (or at least some of them) out of the way by age 37---

AnaCeci: Tu sabes que yo tambien tuve ese sentimiento despues que murio mi papa. I misscarried 6 months later. My father's death was so traumatic for me and so emotional I really could not endure another painful moment. He has been gone now for 2 and 1/2 years, an although todavia me hace mucha falta, the wound is not so deep now..so time does heal, but it is very slow....I also would like another child, but emotionally I would want to be stronger...Pregnancy, especially for those of us whom have lost one, is a particulary vulnerable time...there are so many things that our out of our control... I do have a friend whom misscarried 8 times but had 3 successful ones--and has 3 wonderful little girls!! I have also had other friends whom have had one or two of their own, and have then adopted...Have you considered adoption as an option?

Tonio and Marcie: I laughed about your lawn, Tonio and Marcie your husband and your boat!! My last house had a huge dent in the garage door because I ran into it with my Jeep>>> Tonio, I could only imagine your neighboors peering out their windows watching you two yelling at one another!! You have probably given your new neighbors something to talk about for many years to come!! Canicas? Are you serious? Do they even exist? Haven't they been replaced by Pokeman?

Alex L: Oh, God!!!!!! It was a joke, man!!!! YES, I am scared.

Everyone this is the official Iniguez Family address:
Delphine and Antonio Iniguez
13 Avenue de Predecelle
91470 Limours

home phone: 33-1-64-91-5469 (for calls in France drop the 33 and add a "0" in front)
work mobile: 33-6-14-16-5403
personal mobile (usually in Delphine's hands): 33-6-09-93-3554

Please all those who update lists (which we are infinitely grateful for doing it) for the class of 81, could you please update me whenever you have the time? I OFFICIALLY AND PUBLICLY GIVE MY PERMISSION FOR THE UPDATE.

Liam, my son, beat the five year birthday clock (August 15th) and learned to ride the bike without training wheels. Or so my wife tells me since I passed out after the 3rd mile running after him. (just kidding, i was there, dead tired but there nonetheless)

Tonio, I hadn't thought about that, but, hey! that's a great idea! Coach Everest lives right over here! I could just call him, its a local call, and... hey... wait a minute...wait a minute... did I hear a little fear there?...are you scared or somethin'?... hold on, man... you scared? oh man! cluck, cluck, cluck!...

Ingrid U., good to hear from you again! I was beginning to wonder "whereya'at?" (That's New Orleans for "where are you?"... after all these years, I've been picking up on the colloquialisms) I don't know about what Anaceci said... I mean... hold on, let me take my foot out of my mouth so I can talk...there... I mean... how to be tactfull?...but, don't women have some kind of clock in there ticking or something or other? I don't know, I mean, its not like we are all a bunch of spring chickens here(although evidently some of us are just chickens... cluck, cluck, cluck)I mean, don't get me wrong, you girls from the AHS are all so beautiful and young, I think all of you are still 17...BUT... isn't there some kind of clock ticking or something? I think I heard that somewhere... I don't know, maybe its just me... Ok, let me put my foot back in my mouth... and brace for the storm...

Hey! What about the idea about a 20 year class of 80-83 photo magazine?

Edited by author 08-10-2000 10:43 PM
Hi Anacecilia,
Hope you don't mind an interloper chipping in with my opinion on being an only child. Being an adult version may provide a different perspective from those who are parents of only children, so here goes.

When I was a little kid, I'd always ask my mom for a brother or sister, but what I didn't know was that that was impossible. Anyway, I always figured a brother or sister was an instant friend who was always around and never had to go home. Then, as I got a bit older and spent more time with my friends who did have siblings, I would often marvel at the hellacious fights they would get into! I always thought it was kinda funny, even tho' they obviously didn't! So maybe there was a flip side to the proposition! My parents were always generous with allowing me to have sleepovers with friends and on a few occassions let me bring a friend on vacation, so I didn't feel that I really suffered at all.

As far as growing up an only child, I know that I was easy to travel with and/or take vacations with cuz my parents would just put me in the room with them on a roll away bed. Also, of course, I never had to fight for attention.

I know I missed out on and will never completely understand the bond that you can feel with a sibling. But, since I never had it, I don't miss it, and I have wonderful, enduring friendships that I feel more than compensate me for the relationships I may have missed out on.

Some of the negative things that people say about only children is that they are spoiled and selfish. I would hope that anyone who knows me would probably say that was not true in my case! I've known plenty of spoiled and selfish kids who were not only children, so I think it depends more on how you are raised than how many siblings you have.

The one negative, and I almost feel bad using such a strong word, is that I know that I will at some point have the sole responsibility for my mother (my dad passed away 14 years ago). No one knows what the future may bring or what lies ahead for my mom. She may continue to live a long relatively healthy and independent life and die quietly in her sleep. (We should all be so lucky.) Or perhaps not. If she does need help, it will be from me, no doubt about it. Now, if I had siblings, there is a chance that I could have some help sharing the responsibility, but that's not necessarily a given either.

In the grand scheme of things, there are definitly worse things in the world for Julia than to be an only child. No doubt she will feel loved and cherished her whole life by you and your husband, as I have by my parents. So if you don't want another, I wouldn't worry too much about it for her sake. There are benefits, for sure. If you have any more questions, feel free to email me at suemac@san.rr.com.

Ingrid, que bueno que apareciste! Ya nos veremos en otra ocasion. Espero todo este bien con John. Regarding being a mom...Take your time! De veras, yo no me quejo, al contrario. My little Julia, now 5 months and 5.6Kgs.! (casi como Oliver de Fer) is one little miracle. She came early so my Dad could meet her, after a very tough pregnancy, a previous 5 month miscarriage y demas. Ademas, she is really pretty. People stop me to say how pretty she is. (I'm sometimes even paranoid that they want her!). Es increible. Pero yo creo que hay un tiempo para todo y creo que debes de disfrutar a tu esposo, tu casa, tus peliculas y demas antes para no tener ningun "regret". Como le dije a Fer., for all of us "late starters"... lo bailado nadie nos lo quita! I sometimes can't believe how my life has changed.

Yola, tambien happy b-day, and speaking of being moms and dads and getting pg at "our age" etc. Tu tienes una ninha.

To everyone... What do you think about only childs? Yo veo que casi todos tienen dos o tres. Los que tenemos uno son chiquitos. I don't know if I will be able to have another child. I feel confused. After what I just experienced with my Dad, I do want a brother/sister for Julia's sake. However, even if I could have another baby, right now, after what I experienced, I don't think I would want one.
Que piensan?

Edited by author 08-10-2000 06:01 PM
Hello to all, and welcome to all the new joiners:

I know I have been away for a long time. My husband and I finally found a home. :)
We found it on a Wednesday, and moved in on Saturday of that same week. Then we unpacked almost everything and put the house together because my husbands two girls, (Laura 9, Gema 7) were coming to spend the summer with us from Spain that next Monday. So you can imagine how crazy it all was for me, but we did it. The girls arrived with their nanny so I became insta-mom. I had them in the UCLA elementary school for summer sessions, (which they loved!!) and in the afternoons they had camp, also at UCLA. On the weekends we took them to Sea World, Magic Mountain, Legoland, EtcÉ We had a blast. They went back to Spain, :( , the house felt empty and sad. Children bring sooo much life into a home, don't they?
 The next day after they left I had a friend of mine visiting from France stay with us. She now has gone back to France. So really, for the first time since we moved, my husband and I are enjoying our home. We have completely re done the garden, and are doing little things to the house here and there. So now, if anyone wants to visit Los Angeles, please don't hesitate to call to stay with us, (310) 205-0659.
 I realized that for the first time, since I left Mexico my things were going to be together under the same roof. WOW, that felt strange, but good. Well, enough about me.

I love the welcoming of our classmates, "Welcome HOME", que divinos. Porque si es HOME. Somos todos una familia.

Fernando F-
CONGRATS!!!!!! On your baby boy. A millenium baby dragon! Tienes que post fotos de el, y de tu familia. Que emocionante, y gracias por compartitlo con nosotros. Saludos a tu esposa y que buena onda que estuviste a su lado 100%.

Anaceci -
No llegue a ir a Mexico por cosas familiares con mi hermano John, pero no te preocupes, te llamare antes de ir a Mexico para vernos. Avisame si te puedo echar la mano con cualquier cosa OK.

Hellen P-
Felicidadez con tus 3 angelitos. Me recuerdo tanto de cundo competiamos juntas en natacion. Era siempre entre tu, Elke y yo, recuerdas? Boy, I wish I was in that shape. LOL. Ahora casi no nado ni de divercion, y antes no me sacaban del agua. Funny how things change.

Cindy P-
I miss you. Thank you for asking where I've been, pero I guess now you know. Ya sabes, mi casa es tu casa, cuando quieras. Sobre todoÉ..CONGRATULATIONS de tu bebita!!!!! I will be asking you and all the "mamis" for advice as soon as I get pregnant, which should be very soon now that I am more settled. I might do one more movie before I get pregnant, but I will decide after I have read the Script. It soooooo good to hear from you. Call me sometime.

Antonio I-
Como me rei con tu posting 218..LOL .

Alex Juarez-
Estoy 100% con tigo en lo de que TIENE que haber tacos al pastor.

Does anyone remember the parties I used to have? SIEMPRE habian tacos al pastor, remember?

Javier Arizmendi-
Me encanto tu posting 281. Totalmente.
Mi marido es de Espa–a, y ellos dicen "coger" en vez de agararÉ. Ya te imaginas como me quede cuando por primera vez me dijo que me iva a coger bien duro..LOL

Sammy J-
With regards to your posting 276, YES, lets do a California get together. I'm all for it.

Alex Loya-
I loved your posting 299.

Georgina Marquez-
Que buena onda de que veniste al chat. Yo vivo en West LA, cerca de Beverly Hills, a ver cuando nos juntamos. Hablame y dame tus datos, so we can catch up.

Yolanda E-
Congrats on your Outwardbound. I did one cross country skiing and camping in the snow. We crossed the continental divide. WOW, that was great. Cuando es/fue tu cumple? Happy b-Day.

Where is everyone posting pictures? At the yahoo site or at David's site. I want to see them all.

Besos y hasta pronto.
Ingrid

Edited by author 08-10-2000 03:27 PM
Just wanted to let you know that I finally updated the Alumni Directory last night. Those of you who have requested that I include your info should now find yourselves listed.

http://home.san.rr.com/smacintosh/AHSClassof80/AlumniDirectory

If you are not listed and would like to be, please drop me a line at suemac@san.rr.com. And if you are listed, and would like to be removed for any reason, let me know.

(Even though I created the page for the Class of 80 reunion, I still plan to keep it as an Alumni Directory.)

Yola: you are so right about the Leo's. I remember some Leo's through my life (wink, wink and I am not talking about you but one of your best friends) :) and to make it worse my son Liam is a Leo, he will be five next Tuesday and even before he was born he was the boss. Every time I would approach my wife when she was pregnant and started hugging her or talking to him in her belly he would start kicking really hard. At that moment I knew he was a boy and would have to compete against him for the mom. Which turn out exactly right. He has had full control of his mom all along, gets away with everything and has found many ways to pull the attention towards him (in a good way, but very clever).

Good luck Fer and Nathalie with your little Leo.

Alex L.: Are you out of your mind? Football? with helmets and everything? The next thing we'll know is that you want to invite Al Everest down there to organize us and coach and call the Tepeyac freaks to play against us!

What about a nice ever exciting tournament of "canicas"?

Now, if we play a little indoor soccer match, bleachers closed in, hockey checking against the walls allowed, fast substituting of players; maybe, just maybe we will survive. Hey, why not do that with football also?

Sorry, I digress again. What about the cheerleaders? Yola, Marcie, Kelly... any takers?

Hugs and kisses,
Tonio

Hola a todos,
Just got back from spending a week backpacking and canoeing in Washington State in the Northern Cascade Mountains with an Outward Bound course. It was a life-changing experience. Suffice it to say that I wanted to become wilderness girl (I know I already am a bit of a wild girl) and didn't want to return to what I now refer to as my "unreality". I highly recommend Outward Bound to everyone.
Javi y Toño, gracias por los "Happy Birthday Wishes"
Fernando - Como tu hijo nació en agosto, preparate porque va ser un león!!! Just make sure he's always the center of attention - that's what us Leos like.
Georgina - Te llame a tu casa, y tu hija me contestó, tuvimos una gran conversación sobre disfrazes y jugetes, pero nunca logre hablar con un adulto (-: She sounds adorable!
Sammy J. - Have left you two messages ... yes let's come up with a date about a month in advance and coordinate this Bay Area gig. I'm willing to put up the house for the get-together.
Kelly S. - Sorry, I haven't said hi, but I am so looking forward to seeing you next May. I'll have plenty of cacahuates japoneses for us to share. During my teacher training, we had to write a simple children's book and I titled mine "Sour Oranges and Peanuts" If I remember I'll take it to Mexico with me - it captures my childhood memories of that very special time and special school which is the AHS.
- Hay alguien que tenga la información de Carmen Castillo? Me encantaría ponerme en contacto con ella.
Abrazos, Yola

Fernando: Congratulations!! Being a parent is a wonderful blessing. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Don't worry, there will come a time when you get to sleep again!Enjoy every minute because it passes very, very quickly.

It is great seeing all of the new names popping up on the Board. It really does bring back a flood of memories.

Have any of you had contact with Robert Trejo lately? I have lost his phone and e-mail.

Fer, congratulations! And more congratulations! It's a great happy feeling, isn't it?! That is your boy, man! Your descendant! Your offspring! Your heir! The one to carry your name! The one to spend your paychecks! It's a great feeling, huh?! Boy, when my lil Al' was born, I'm telling you, I was happy! I mean haaaaaaaapy! He made me feel like a mighty man! He is the arrow in my quiver! And I too was so proud of my wife! She is like a fruitful vine and my children like shoots round about my table! Congratulations again to you and your wife! (Apparently, si fue el gol del empate, como dijo Anaceci...)

Jodi, yep! Didn't even have a girlfriend then... nobody could catch me! I don't know what happened! Next thing you know... I missed going to Angola, but the young man who contacted me from the prison is going to be transfered to Angola, apparently St. Tammany Parish prison is like a holding place for Angola bound criminals. You did mention that you were in Louisiana, and that you had friends at the seminary, you know all about the humidity, huh? Its so hot and humid its like living in a sauna 24 hrs a day! 300 days a year or so!... other than that the weather's great! Chuck Swindoll? Now, that is truly a man of God! It must be a good church!

Hi Marcie! I know what you mean! Gotta watch him! Today my beautiful little daughter Kirsten Elizabeth, she is 4 yrs old, was drinking cool aid at the dinner table using a straw. We began to notice that every time she sucked on the straw to drink, the cool aid would come out of chukee cheese's nose (it was a Chuckee Cheese straw), making a mess on the dinner table. My wife,Sandra, asked my baby girl "Kirsten, what'd you do to the straw?" Kirsten said, "I bit its nose off." My wife said, in a little exasperated tone,( she'd been having one of those days in which I think it wiser to quietly leave the room before she bites MY nose off...) she said, "Look at this mess, Kirsten, now you can't have the straw anymore, we're gonna have to throw it away! Why did you bite its nose off?" Kirsten's eyes began to fill up with tears, her lower lip began to shoot out a little, and she replied in a sobbing voice, "I couldn't wait to eat!" Man! Makes me think I gotta get back to work!

Anyway, I am beginning a series on the Rapture of the Church for those who are interested in end time events
http://www.worshipradio.com/TheKnowingGodBroadcast.htm

Also, I started a chat like this one about God, I had been engaged in some deep theological debate on the class of 80 site, they have some deep thinkers over there! Anybody interested in talking about the Lord, the Bible, End Times, Prophecy whatever, wether pro or con is welcome, invited and urged to jump in and speak your mind on the subject her is the link:
http://www.quicktopic.com/3/H/JbqgFA8g9iV7dxjh4MTa/p-1.20...

Holy smokes! That's a lot of letters! But come on over and join us! Saddle up, pardner!

Homero, I remember you were big y tenias la voz gruesa de ninio!

Paul Cadena was in Brazil, I woke him up one time around 2 AM, I didn't realize the time it was over there. Scott Odabashian was in New York, I called his place of emplyment, I believe David Laird had given me the number, the phone rang at one of many desks and he just happend to pass by and pick up the phone. I do hope we hear from that bunch! And maybe we can organize a REAL football game for REAL men, helmets, shoulder pads and all!

Hugs and kisses,
Alex

Congrats again to the Fuentes family.

Per Javi's message, which I hope is correct: Happy Birthday Yola.

Saludos,
Toño

ps regarding the "cascarita": shouldn't we start also thinking on having an ambulance or one of those machines that give electric shocks straight to the heart? i mean, maybe at sea level, but at mexico city altitude??????? ok, ok, i will not wimp out. may God help us. Alex L. could you pull some strings up there for the massacre?

Fernando: Congrats to you and your wife! I love the baby's name...

Marcie: You asked about Donna Keeler. We keep in touch, and got together a few years ago, along with Kelley Coker, here in Georgia. Donna is living out in Seattle, and has the most beautiful daughter, named Alexia, who must be about....10 by now? She is the the most amazing combination of Donna and Eric - beautiful! I'll see if I can get Donna to post...

Fernando Fuentes:
Congratulations to you and your wife. Being a father is amazing. I have a two year old son, and he has brought so much joy to my life I can not picture life without him now. I'm sure your son will fill your life with with the same.


Yolanda:
I think today is your B-day. I'm almost sure. Congratulations !?!?


Cindy P.:
 What kind of renovations did you do? I'm not sure what you really want to know, and I do not want to oversimplify a complex engineering problem here, but typically in seismic zones (earthquakes country), you need to design for high lateral loads (shaking). This means that buildings will need a system to take the lateral loads and transfer them to the ground. This is usaually done with shear walls (no windows, no doors), braces (diagonal or x-braces), or moment frames (rigid goal posts), and properly engineered foundations (more money). Are you afraid your renovation project was over-engineered?


Georgina:
Nice to hear from you too! I think Karen J. lives in Chula Vista south of San Diego. I last saw her ten years ago.

Jodi:
Strange coincidence. I worked on airport design for five years (San Francisco, Manila, San Jose). Maybe I was married to you and I didn't even know it?

Marcie M.:
Thanks for the welcome.


Regards to all,

Javi

Hi gang,

Linda Bangerter (78), who lives in Holly, Michigan, is having a picnic at the end of August. Any and all AHS alums in the area are invited. Here's what she posted:

Here is the word on the AHS Michigan Family Picnic: We will meet at my house at 1:00 p.m. on Sat Aug 26th. Everyone please bring your own meat to grill, and a salad or Dessert to pass. We will provide soft drinks. (no beer please. I have to practice what I preach to the kids) The address is 16225 Falk, Holly, Mi 48442. Please RSVP at joehaynie@writeme.com or at 248-634-4527. I will send directions when you RSVP.

So, any Michiganders out there - Marcie! - looks as though you'll have a chance to get together! Let's hope for good weather!

Homero y Ricardo: a mi tambien me encantaria poder jugar una cascarita ya sea en el campo grande o en el gimnasio. Ricardo, ojale te puedas poder en contacto cone el Cuatoach Contreras. Dile que la mejor generacion que tuvo en futbol va de regreso al campo. Estoy seguro que habria por lo menos unos 20-22 que jugarian.

Georgina: Trabajo para Qwest. Estoy acargo de la mercadotecnia hispana de 14 estados. Qwest es una compania de telecomunicaciones.

John B: John do you remember our Physics class with Mr. Blanco or was it Biology with Mrs. Gonzalez? Wow, its been a long time. I can't believe they trusted us with chemicals during the experiments. I remember the day Dominic almost made the lab blow up.....

Fernando: So how is it going? A few sleepless nights? Don't worry it will get better. Just enjoy it.
Estoy casado con Nancy desde el 93 y tengo una nena de 4 anos (Jaclyn).

I finally got a chance to read all the 300 and some messages. Wow! Cuantos cuates del Americano. Came across lots of names and I actually remember everyone! Cary Rothman? Now that was a surprise! Glad to hear you're good.
Sammy: Que padre leer tus mensajes y saber que estas muy feliz.
Javi: Igual me da mucho gusto saber de ti.
Yola: Que onda? Te deje un mensaje en tu telefono el sabado pasado. Lo recibiste? Me encanto leer tus mensajes y saber que estas muy bien. Quizas ya leeiste mi update pero anyway, tengo 5 anos de casada con John Black. John es veterinario. John nacio en Iowa y crecio en Illinois. Nos conocimos aqui en Orange County un mes despues de que acabe mi especialidad en UCD. Que lastima que no supe que viviamos tan cerca (vivi en Davis de 1992-1994). Anyway, hope to see you soon. We do go to the bay area sometimes to see family. Yo te aviso la proxima vez que vaya a San Fran.

Hi everyone!
Alex J. No he podido contactar a Hector Hernandez, pero prometo aplicarme a tal cosa esta semana que no tengo que viajar. De Agustín García no se hace tie po. La última vez que lo vi fue hace varios años en un grupo religioso en el que participábamos y en donde se llevaba más con mis hermanas. Después de eso, nada. Solo se que es médico.

Homero M. Así es, aún después de tantas clases de catecismo y de tanta participación activa en asuntos religiosos, la vida se dio cuenta de que los esfuerzos eran infructuosos! Oye, esa idea de la cáscarita no suena nada mal. A ver si contacto al Coach Contreras y que nos presten el gimnasio de la escuela un Sábado en que coincidamos todos por aquí (¿qué tal en la reunión?).

Por cierto alguien se acuerda de Yolanda de la Llata? Un cuate mio por ahí quiere saber que fue de ella (your'e welcome G.O.!)(¡y no me refiero a ti George!).

Como que en esta lista faltan muchos nombres que revolotean en mi memoria, así que ¡a trabajar todos!

George O: Hi George! So nice to hear from you! Glad you're doing well. Still remember clowning around with you all the time!
John B: Wow is right! How could I ever forget our basketball games. Had way too much fun! How about all our outings and talks. Love your pictures! Looking forward to meeting your family!
Alex J: Where do you work? I can't picture Angel de Grau but I do recall he was a good friend of yours.
Ana: Sabes de Maribel Sarabia o de Alejandra Alvarado? Hace tiempo que perdi contacto con ellas. Se que Maribel tenia a sus ninas en el Americano.
Marcie: Thanks for your words of encouragement. Brought me good luck. Baby slept all night again last night. I felt so good today I didn't quite know what to do. Didn't even yawn on my way to work!

Fernando and Nathalie: Congratulations! And so begins your life filled with renewed fun, happiness, joy, and wonder. The whole birth experience is incredible, and what follows is wonderful! My wife and my favorite game still is "stare at the baby."

Georgina: Welcome! Wow, it has been a long time. I still remember fondly our basketball games (if that's what you could call that). Looking forward to your pictures!

Hmmm, just got back from Mexico City. I arrived at 8:30 and got out on the 13:00 plane. Crazy, eh. By the way, don't take that afternoon flight unless your idea of a quick lunch is a bag of peanuts (sorry, no japoneses). Well, u guys were really active writing messages during the weekend...
Ricardo, Hola... ¿qué tal te va?... sí, me acurdo de esos catecismos, mi mamá pensaba que nos ibamos a arreglar pero lo que no sabía era que sólo estabamos allí por las chavas del grupo, eh... veo que tienes buena memoria, mi hermana es seis años menor que nosotros así que sí, sí era una güerquilla y mi hermano se llama Bernardo...
Hey George Ortes... claro que me acuerdo de tí. Sin embargo, me acuerdo de todos con la cara que teníamos en primaria y secundaria y como que no me imagino como sean... en fin, unos más gordos otros más flacos, pelones, barbudos, etc, etc... va a ser divertido...
Marcie, you're right, we're yearbook neighbors... I did my looking up on the book yesterday just to get a mind booster. Oh, and yes I agree with your definition of MI weather. Was up there last month (at Troy) and in less than two hours had sun, hail, rain, wind and lighting...
Fernando Fuentes, felicidades por tu niño... (espero que no te guste mucho dormir)
Alejandro, no olvides organizar una cascarita. Creo que en el equivalente a una cancha de basquet basta .

Best regards,
Homero Menchaca

Regarding la reunion: Does anyone have any ideas on baby sitters/child care for Friday night? I haven't been back to Mexico City for almost 10 years so I'm totally out of touch with baby sitters. Also, do we have any ideas on hotels? Is everyone staying at the same hotel? If not, can I suggest the Four Season's or the Nikko? I think they're pretty centrally located. I wonder if we may be able to get a group rate somewhere?
Georgina

Fernando and Nathalie: Congratulations on your baby boy. You will cherish your baby. Just be prepared for sleepless nights ahead.

Georgina: Fijate que no me acuerdo de Jose Merino. El unico con que tengo contacto de Veterinaria es Angel de Grau u su esposa Rocio.

Ricardo O: Que paso con el correo de Hector H? Ya no he sabido nada de el. Tienes contacto con Agustin? Es bueno ver que poco a poco se van uniendo mas y mas.

To the organizing team: Could we get an update on dates and venues?

MUCHISIMAS FELICIDADES ! Fer and Nat. May God bless little Oliver! Ademas, que grandote. Es increible ser papas, se puede estar cayendo el cielo que, apenas te sonrien, todo se arregla. Felicidades.

Fer: Congratulations on your new baby.

Georgina: Nice to here from you after all these years.

Tono: The lawn will grow back don´t worry. As long as you take the truck out thou. Jaja.

Homero: Long time no see. Saludos

Fernando and Nathalie Congratulations on the birth of your SON. Fernando, I am proud of you for hanging right in there with your wife during labor. It was tough, I am sure. Isn't it awesome to see his little face!? It is a long last month or two waiting to see and kiss the baby. When you decide to post photos please let us know which site. I like David's MSN site, but you have to sign up. It doesn't take very long to do though.
Georgina, I don't know if you will believe this or not, but someday you will get to sleep all night, and every once in awhile even sleep in!! The time that my kids were small flew by. It seems I always had one awake for something during the night, and now it is hard to remember how many times I fell asleep rocking the baby. It's kind of like labor pain. You do remember it, but not to the extreme that it was. I can't wait to see your babies' pictures!! Take care.

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Congrats Fer!!! You're going to love being a dad (well, maybe not quite when you're up at 11pm, 12am, 1am, 2am, and completely not able to go back to bed at 3am because Oliver Christopher is now ready to play!). Make sure you post pictures!

Hey Marcie! Great to hear from you. I'm working on posting pictures of my little ones (I am so not computer literate so it takes me a while to figure it out). Our baby was up again at 2am for a bottle. I guess it was just a dream that he might start sleeping through the night!

Georgina

welcome to this world oliver christopher!!! sorry about the dad but there are worst dads than the one you have. i am sure your mom nathalie will make up for it.

congratulations fuentes family!

now, the fun begins. did you guys get enough sleep? no, well forget about it, no more sleep for the next 18 years.

IT’S A BOY !!!!

On Friday at 3:00 am Nathalie started getting her contractions every 15 min. She finally decided to wake me up at 6:00 when her contractions were anywhere between 10 & 5 min. At 8:30 we were with her doctor for our scheduled appointment. Doctor told us to go home, but to be ready to go to the hospital when the contractions were constantly at 5 min apart. We went home, and relaxed (all the bags had been packed one week in advance), and at 11:00 we were on our way to the hospital. By 3:00 pm the contractions were coming every 2.5 min., and that is the way they remained. At around 7:00 Nathalie could not take it any longer so she got the anesthesia that is put in through her spine (I forget the technical name for it) to block the pain out. By 11:00 that evening the effects of the anesthesia were gone, the pain was back, her contractions were still at 2.5 min apart, and the thing was not any more dilated than the 5 cm it was at 3:00. She got more anesthesia at that time, and we continued waiting. By around 1:00 am on Saturday morning the anesthesia once again was gone, and so she got some more – there was still no change in dilation or contractions frequency. She took a nap from that time till 3:00 when it was gone again, and the pain came back. While she was sleeping I was told to keep an eye on the baby’s heart rate, which I tried to do in between nodding off in my little chair. By 4:00 am on Saturday morning we had 2 gynecologists, 2 mid-wives, 2 anesthesiologists, and 1 pediatrician in our room discussing what to do next – STILL no change in dilatation and contraction frequency. Nathalie was begging for a cesarean operation, and I was backing her in everything and any thing she wanted (talk about a feeling of impotence, just sitting there seeing your wife suffer that way for so long and not being able to do anything to help her out.) All the doctors agreed at that point that a cesarean it would be so they started getting things ready. FINALLY, at 6:43 am on Saturday the 5th of August, Oliver Christopher was born, weighing 4,600 gr and measuring 56 cm in length. Both him and Nathalie are doing fine and are resting in the hospital. As for me… I have a smile on my face from ear to ear, and couldn’t be prouder of my wife for the great fight she put up during the close to 28 hours of labor.

Well, there you have it. I am going back to the hospital now to be with her and Oliver.

Love to all

Hey Georgina! Welcome to the message board. I will look forward to hearing stories of your little ones too. Gosh, they are just so much fun (yes, and alot of work) at the ages yours are.
Homero I was sorry when I remembered your name and not your face. I have my Anahuacs and my Middle School yearbooks right next to my computer now. I looked you up in the '76 and the '77 BEARS books. (You are right next to me in the '77 book) Now I remember. Good to hear from you.
Alex L- Now that your little one is learning to crawl WATCH OUT!! No slowing him down. My son was very lazy from the time he was conceived until he was about four months old. He started scooting and has been going 140 ever since.
Jodi, it is like Kelly S. said, 'once you go van you won't go back.' You would like having one with children. Brian and I live in central lower Michigan. We get to enjoy all of the seasons here, sometimes within two days!! The joke here in MI is, "if you don't like the weather just hang around for an hour"
Tonio- I should have felt sympathetic about your lawn, but it made me remember something that happened at our house last summer. My husband was backing into our driveway with our boat on the back of the van. He asked his beloved wife to navigate for him. I thought that he was doing just fine. I think that I told him to stop (?) and he backed right into the garage door. He stuck one of the propellar blades right into the door. At first I was kind of shocked, but as soon as I saw his face when he came to look, I had to laugh. He was not real happy, of course he thinks I did not tell him to stop. We still have a gash in our garage door. The prop was okay, of course that is the important thing. I hope that your lawn will be repaired soon. :) Hope everything goes well with your new place.
Has anyone heard anything of Donna Keeler? Craig Dudley? Scott Odobashian? Paul Cadena?
Hey everyone, stay happy and healthy. Love ya.

Homero M.: que gusto oir de ti después de tantos años. Recuerdo bien a tu familia y que además de la escuela nos llevaban a tomar juntos clases de catecismo en el Altillo. Espero que te hayan servido de algo porque yo siempre me quedaba dormido! Recuerdo que iba mucho a tu casa en Atlamaya y recuerdo a tu hermana Marcela (que era realmente pequeña) y a tu hermano aunque de su nombre no me acuerdo. También me acuerdo mucho de tu mamá cuando íbamos a tu casa. Por cierto José Olivo se casó y el año pasado tuvo a su primera hija. Estuvo viviendo aquí en el D.F. durante un par de años y hace dos meses el y su familia regresaron a Monterrey. El trabaja en Coca-Cola FEMSA, aunque no recuerdo su puesto exactamente. Si lo contactas lo saludas mucho de mi parte. Hace un par de meses que no sabemos nada de el.
Me ha dado gusto saludarte y saber de tu existencia. Efectivamente, todo esto está lleno de recuerdos! ¡Saludos!

Hola Ana! Que padre dia estoy teniendo sabiendo de todos! Hace un rato yo tambien me estaba acordando cuando fuimos al nevado de Toluca. Creo que estabamos en septimo porque me acuerdo que vino Karen Lask y creo que tambien Shelly Levin. Tienes fotos? Yo voy a buscar mis fotos. Tal vez las tenga mi mama. Sabes algo de las Karen's? Y que tal de Sara Aroeste? Sara, Karen Jaris y yo estuvimos juntas desde pre-school en el recreo infantil del bosque. Me encantaria saber de ellas.

Felicidades por tu nena! Are you getting any sleep? Desde que nacio nuestro segundo bebe (Chase Alexander) we hadn't had a full night sleep hasta apenas anoche!

Orange County esta como a 40 millas al sur de Los Angeles (entre San Diego y L.A.) . Estamos a 20 minutos de Disneylandia. Desafortunadamente es un poco lejos de San Fran. (como 8 horas driving). Flying time es como 40 minutos. Por el trabajo (acabamos de regresar de vacciones en Hawaii) y nuestros hijos nos sera dificil ir a San Franciso cuando estes alla, pero we will see you en la reunion en Mexico for sure!

Just for the record, Casi increible. It is a beautiful afternoon in Mexico City, and as I am writing this, I can see the volcanoes. Popo and Ixtla. Yes, they are still there! Remember when we went to Popocateptl? When was that, our JR or SR year? Geor. con tus papas fuimos al nevado de Toluca en tu cumple. Creo que fue en quinto ano? Te acuerdas?

Hola Geor. Que gusto verte (leerte) aqui! Te mande saludar con tu ma, no te dijo? Se ve muy bien. Oye, my geography is not very good. How far are you from San Francisco? Sta Rosa? I would love to see you and meet your family. Saludos, Anaceci

Jodi, you were always so nice and sweet. You still sound so. How's your sister? Nice to hear from you too.

Fer: de los "Milennium babies". Sera el gol del empate?
John. girl
yo, girl
Cindy, girl
Betsy, boy
Shelley, boy
SUERTE
Am I missing anyone?

Alex: Hola! Me parece que Janet regreso a la carrera mas o menos al mismo tiempo que nosotros terminamos. No volvi a saber mas de ella. Tienes contacto con alguien mas de la carrera? A mi me hablo Jose Merino. Vive por aca pero la verdad es que no me acuerdo para nada de quien es. Dice que estudiamos al mismo tiempo en Mexico. Tambien supe de Robert Tishman, te acuerdas de el? Trabaja en un hospital veterinario en Maryland.

Georgina

Hola Georgina,
Gusto saber de ti otra vez. Despues de que estuvimos en veterinaria, ya no supe mas de ti. Tu hermano Julio me conto que vivias en California. Oye, sabes algo de Janet Huskey? Se graduo de veterinaria? Todavia tengo contact con Angel DeGrau. El tambien se graduo de veterinaria. Vive en Canada.
Recibe saludos.
Alex

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Hola todos! Just learned through my brother Julio de este chat room! Wow, pretty neat! Talk about memory lane!

Vivo en Orange County, California. He vivido in the U.S. desde 1991.

I am married to John Black and have two children, Rebecca Renee (3) and Chase Alexander (1). Estudie veterinaria en Mexico y luego hize un internship en small animal medicine and surgery en Minnesota y finalmente una residencia en small animal internal medicine at UC Davis. I work at a veterinary specialty referal hospital in Irvine. Mi esposo John tambien es veterinario and he owns his own paractice in Orange.

Definitivamente vamos a ir a la reunion. Me encantaria ayudar con lo que se pueda desde California.

Ya tengo que sign off. My babies are calling.

Dale: Thanks for putting this together. Nice work!

Mon ami, Antonio. Je suis vraiment jolie de savoir que tu habites en France. Bon chance. Bueno, se hizo el intento, eh... Pues nada, me he pasado leyendo todos estos mensajes y sí, tienes razón, al escribir esto no dejo de percibir esa sonrisa estúpida producto de una sobredosis de viejos recuerdos. ¿Viejos?... viejos los cerros.

Ah, otro que anda por acá en Monterrey (aunque confieso que le perdí la pista) es José Olivo. Estuvo conmigo en la prepa del Tec y después en profesional coincidíamos de vez en vez en alguna clase u hora libre. Ya lo buscaré y le diré de esto.

Hello Everyone Again,

Fernando it was great to hear from you. How is the baby wait? Hay que mello! I just laugh when I picture you as a Dad and Felipe too. Hey I live in the Dallas area what is Felipes number and add.? I will just have to look him up.

Alex it was qreat to hear from you. You are doing something interesting and challenging. I will have to tune in sometime to hear your teaching. Man last time we talked you didn't even have a girlfriend and now you have a wife and three kids. So are you enjoying the hot and humid summers. Did I tell you that I graduated from Louisiana Tech? So I too know what the humidity is like. Prison ministry what a challenge but there is definently a need. Have you ever worked or gone to Angola? Now that's a tough population. We are gradually getting more involved in our church. We attend Irving Bible Church. It is one of the first churches that Chuck Swindol started. We like it.

Marcie it was nice to read some of your letters and to hear what you are doing. I remember you and Cindy also Kelly as our peppy cheerleaders trying to rev up that AHS spirit. Kelly my husband has been trying to convince me that we need a van. Where do you all live? I am trying to find out if there is an AHS alumni group in the Dallas area. I have written Kelly Coker R several times.It was nice to catch up with her.
Take care
Jodi

Have a great day.

Qué onda Alex! Antier estuve en Cd. de México y después de cenar estaba pensando, ¿qué habrá pasado con todos los compañeros del americano? Y hoy, de vuelta a la oficina me volví a acordar y por no dejar busqué la página del ASF... dar con este sitio fue consecuencia natural de eventos. Me llevé la sorpresa de encontrar tanto nombre familiar. Vaya, ya llevan un buen rato comunicandose entre sí.
A ver, yo estoy en que la última vez que nos vimos fue allá en el '86 una vez que fui al Conacyt.
Rafa Zamora estuvo acá en el Tec pero ya tengo años de no saber de él.
A William Buenfil, que también estaba en el Tec, me lo encontré por última vez en el '80 en Venecia. Estuvo chistoso porque imagínate, Venecia en verano, hasta el gorro de gente y de repente te topas con un cuate tuyo. Qué onda? No, pues nada, y tu? No, pues aquí. Ah, vamos a echarnos una cheve. Orale.
Pero fuera de eso nadie más.
Tengo tres hijos... Eduardo (6), Andrea (casi 4) y Marcos (2). Mi esposa Gaby (nos casamos en el 92) y una perra french poodle que piensa que es persona.
Estoy trabajando en Altos Hornos de México como Gerente General de Ventas Industriales. Es todo menos aburrido especialmente por los clientes de automotriz y línea blanca que son super exigentes.
Bueno, pues ya seguiremos en comunicación.

homero: welcome back, very good to hear from you. Yes, it has been a long long while.

Que gusto oir de ti. Creo que desde 1982 no sabia nada de ti. Ojala puedas ir a la reunion el proximo ano. Va a ser la ultima semana de mayo.
Bienvenido y espero estemos en contacto. Mi correo electronico es ajuarez@quepasa.com
Saludos

Well, it's been a while since you last heard of me, eh. Say, 20 years?... Probably a little more, since I left to Monterrey in '77 just out of 8th grade. In between I lived 2 years in Spain and 5 at Monclova (yeah, don't laugh) but came back to Monterrey one year ago. For the last 11 years I've been working in the steel industry and moved all over from operations to sales. Got wife, three kids, dog and a fishing habit that won't go away. Don't wanna bore u folks with more of this, just wanted to say hi, I'm still around and hopefully will remain in touch.

Best regards,
Homero Menchaca
hmenchaca@gan.com.mx

Back on line!!!! Hi everyone. We have succeeded on the move to Limours. We are living out of boxes for the moment but we all survived. Well, not all actually, the front garden of the house was a little destroyed since I managed to get the truck stuck in the lawn (thanks to my beloved navigator, my wife, that thought that lawns are as hard as cement and discovered to her dismay that they are not hard particularly when it has been raining for a full week). Took us two hours to unload the truck and put everything in the house and took us three hours to get the damn truck out off the lawn. Will write to you a more amusing play by play later on. Need to catch up on my four days off work. Anyways, life is good.

Hugs and kisses to all,
Tonio

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Hi Jodi! Good to hear from you! I can't believe how long its been since we kept in touch! A lot of changes since then! Wife, kids, dogs, house, van... noonies etc. etc.But I am having a blast with life! I praise the Lord that He has been kind to me! No, the Lord has not seen fit to put me in the pastorate at this time, I am not in full time ministry (which is a bummer), although I am involved in ministry which, at this time, evidently is expanding. I have been teaching theology at the college level at a little local Bible College in New Orleans, I have a radio show called "The Knowing God Broadcast" which airs locally through out South Louisana and Mississippi, and world wide at worshipradio.com, I do pulpit supply from time to time filling in for pastors. The ministry is expanding through the radio show, I have been invited to go to Pakistan to preach revivals and crusades and to hold teaching seminars for 200-300 church leaders, my pastor Bro. Dennis Watson seems to think this is going to open more doors. I was also invited to go to the St. Tammany prison to preach to the inmates, apparently the inmates listen to my broadcast, I am now in the process of getting a prison ministry licence. So, the Lord is expanding my ministry, I am not sure that I will ever be a pastor though, although I do believe and hope that some day the Lord will indeed put me in full time ministry (I'd be as happy as a hot hog in a cool puddle of mud then!), but the Lord is big into making us wait... but I want it NOW!(Just kidding, Lord!) I am an independent insurance broker to make a living, its good business and I have lots of freedom, for which I am very grateful. Good to hear from you Jodi! Welcome to our message board!

Fer, were you in the Boy Scouts of America or something? You seem to live by the scout slogan "Be Prepared", or was that the motto? Let me kindly advice you to keep a good supply of spit diapers... handy... those babies are leaky creatures! They ooze and leak all kinds of yucky stuff!... and then they laugh at you! Be Prepared!

Marcie, guess what?! I saw Lil' Alex crawl on his hands and knees for the first time today! And then he took off a'runnin' 100 miles an hour on his brand new walker like he was driving a Camaro! Laughing his head off with baby laughter! That's my boy!

Cindy P. notice the time... and its an hour earlier where I'm at!

Alrighty then! Hugs to all!
Alex

Fernando: You are going to be a GREAT Dad, if you are already enjoying your van, and the baby has yet to arrive! Best wisheS!
kelly

Dear all,

Hi again. I am still here but not checking in as often as work has me BUSY these days. The baby has still not arrived - thanks to all for asking!!! :-). The theoretical date is tomorrow, but then again only about 5% of women deliver on the exact date, so I suspect we will still have to wait a bit. Nonetheless, I promise to post a message to let you all know as soon as it happens. Then all of you going to the reunion next year (here I am taking it for granted that EVERYONE is going!!!!) will be able to meet the baby in person... along with all the other babies there! ;-)

Alex L: I already bought a Van, and I am starting to believe all the messages posted by Kelly and Marcie regarding not wanting to go back to a normal car after that, although I still have my other little car, which I still like very much.

Jodi: Good of you to join in on the fun! Felipe is happily married has a 2 year old daughter (precious!), and is expecting his second baby for around next march. He lives in Dallas, and is working for a German company. Figure it out: He lives in the States working for a German company, and I live in Germany working for an American company.

Well, gotta run again. Abrazo a todos.

Hello Former Fellow Classmates,

Although it has been years since I have seen or spoken to most of you, I remember you fondley well most of you :) Fernando you and your brother Felipe often pop into my head when memories of AHS come flooding back.How is he and where is he? Congratulations on your wife and on your soon to arrive baby. Parenthood is amazing. My husband Javier and I have an 18 month old son Ian who has changed our lives so very much. I can't believe that I am up at this hour but I am awaiting a response from priceline.com for a ticket to Mexico Lindo y Querido so my son can visit his abuelitos.After working for many years doing a variety of things such as teaching and working as a social worker I am now at home full time.
 It was great to catch up with Dale Reed. I am making plans to attend our much anticipated reunion. I was unable to attend the 10 year one but am definently planning on making it to the 20. Alex L.it has been a long time. We are no longer in Los Angeles but moved back to Texas (Irving) approximately 3 years ago. Are you a pastor or working in the ministry full time now? Anacecilia where are you living now and what are you doing? I appreciate all of the work that you have done for the AHS assoc. through the years. Javi Arizmendi so you are an architect? What are you specialized in? My husband also Javier is also an architect. He specializes in transportation design and is just starting a new project for the expansion of the new international terminal at the Dallas Fort Worth Airport. Well I must sign off but will write again soon.
Jodi

Hi everyone! Hope all is well. We are having a great time this Summer, doing some fun parks and camping. We just got home today from camping in fact, and there are about five more loads of laundry to do!! It rained buckets for three days, and we just relaxed under the awning or in the camper playing cards, or reading. It felt so good to relax.
Cindy, you asked what I am doing for work. I have been working for a dentist for four years now. (I had left there for eight months and went back in October last year.) I was asked to come back and 'help out' for awhile, one day a week, and now I am there three days a week. Two of our front office people have left since December last year. My job title is Financial Coordinator, but my job is everything administrative until we get everyone new trained to do 'their' job. I really do enjoy the work. I do the insurance claims, billing, financial arrangements, collections. Anything that has to do with money. I also do all of the #'s things, like production targets, end of the month stats, etc. This just cracks me up, because I am not into numbers or math AT ALL! It seems to be going well though. We should have our web site going one of these days. The last time I tried to check it out, I couldn't get on there. The site is www.distinctivedental.net We had a photographer take photos in January, and they are still not on there. Who knows what's up with that! Are you going to be going back to work, or staying home with Alexandra?
Fernando- are you still with us, or having a baby?
Alex- I would love to hear your preaching. Your teaching was great, what I got to hear of it! I will tune into it when I am more awake. Thanks.
Kelly- I can picture you with your kids and a couple of extras in your van!!
Hey everyone, take care!

Yolanda, Gracias por la invitacion. Tentativamente voy a estar en SF el 16-26 de Agosto. Yo les aviso antes.

Cindy,
More than likely your Microsoft Word program has the language preference tool. Open up Word, go to tools and click on language, then click on set language and then pick the appropiate Spanish. This should be it. Now you should be able to do spell check in Spanish.
I do believe there is a way to check your spelling on e-mail, but I'am not sure how.
Take care,
Alex

Ricardo O: Thanks for the info on pacifiers vs. thumbs. Actually your abscense gave everyone the opportunity to share their wonderful stories on the thumbs vs. pacifer wars!! If my child at 18 is still thumb sucking, besides sending them to you, I will also send her to Sammy J. for some psych help!!
I do remember Alex Whitehouse!! He and I were in Mrs. Kirkpatrick's kindergarden class together--I think he, Timmy Tudor and I, were one of the only kids to know how to tie our shoes...Mrs. Kirkpatrick had us help other kids learn how to tie their shoes...Boy, those where the good ol' days!! Have him come on board, it would be great to see what he did after kindergarden!

Alex L: you need to get to bed earlier!!! (2:23 am???)
Marcie: Your summer sounds like one of those summers that you will one day, in your old age, reminisce about being a "typical summer day" What kind of work are you doing these days?
Javi: oops!!Sorry, I hope I didn't insult Tae Kwan Do by calling it Karate or Judo. I was always impressed with the fact that you were doing a sport before it became the "rave". I also remember that you did the "splits" infront of Elena R. and I in Junior High and you didn't even blink an eye. Old cheerleaders think about stuff like that...Your career sounds as if it has encompassed many different aspects of architecture---This may be boring to others, but I am curious, if you would endulge my curious nature, on how your design has had to change moving into earthquake country vs. the eastern seaboard...I have had some recent remodling done by a construction crew that orginated in Calif--I would like to hear an architect's perspective.....
Kelly S: does your minivan have reverse sensing? When I was pregnant I realized (duh, it was more facing up to the fact that I was an adult now) that I could no longer drive around town with in my Jeep with the top and doors off, barefoot and enjoying "la vida loca" once I had a baby. I went for the Expedition with 4wd (we have 2 miles of dirt road to get to our house in the sticks). I have had it since April and I still haven't learned to parallel park yet--the Jeep was so easy!! The reverse sensing has saved my insurance premiums!! So, are your kids in baseball or soccer? I can't believe that soccer leagues run all year round!
Jennifer WS--write!!
Elena R.: Ingrata! No me llamaste para chismosear!!
AnaCeci: Te mandaria una foto pero tenemos un nuevo program and I can't figure it out..
To all whom write on a computer in Spanish, what program do you suggest that can/will edit documents in Spanish? And is their a way to hook this up to e-mail? I am so tired of my Spanish looking like a third graders, pero me da mucha peresa in trying to put accents on things...

Edited by author 07-29-2000 02:29 AM
Fer, I concur with Cindy P. get some sleep while you can, and then, you will have to buy a van. Hey! I'm a poet and didn't know it! But this little rhyme really does tell you of what's ahead in time! Noonies, choopies... you'll spend a dime! But you'll hold your little one and say "I'm glad you are mine!" And he or she will steal your heart, and you will laugh when that little bitty baby lets out a big ol'... toot?... Its a hoot, being a dad, you watch and see, you'll feel so glad! But do get some sleep, while you still can, and then go out and buy a van... (where did this come from?)

I remember you Alex Whitehouse, so jump in! I'm sure once you jump in, more people will remember you!

Marcie and all those who are Christians or are interested, let me invite you to listen to a sermon I preached, what you heard before was teaching, this is preaching. I sound kind of like a chipmunk, but, hey, I want to share the message with you, its entitled "Our Awesome God" I actually got this sermon around 2 A.M. one day, I don't know what I was doing up so late! But I was listening to Stryper, a Christian Rock band they were playing an old hymn with Rock music, and it was awesome! It inspired me to write this sermon. I was very greatful when I found Christian rock because I used to think all Christians listened to was old church hymns. When I was introduced to Stryper I was like thankyouthankyouthankyou! And I cranked it up in the barracks to evangelize my fellow U.S. Marines. At any rate, Stryper was jamming this old hymn and it was awesome, I wrote the message, and the first time I preached it, the whole congregation without exemption stood up, spontaneously, without a call to do so, without music, the whole congregation stood up worshipping the Lord in song with outsreteched arms at the end of my sermon. That was incredible! I had only read of that happening during the Great Awakening! Very humbling indeed... I invite you to listen to it, disregard the kind of like a chipmunk tone, I don't think, at least I hope I don't sound like that in real life. I introduce the sermon, then I play the sermon, then I come back with some closing comments. Its an old show and an older sermon. It's entitled "Our Awesome God". Anyway here it is, thanks Tonio!
http://www.worshipradio.com/TheKnowingGodBroadcast.htm

With affection to all,
Alex

Edited by author 07-28-2000 12:24 AM
¡Hi everyone! So I see you've been having a rather interesting discussion on the thumb vs. pacifier subject.
Cindy P., sorry I didn't answer your question before, I was out on a trip but I see you've been getting the most interesting points of view on the subject. The interesting part is that this is one of the most debated subjects in preventive orthodontics. Most of the kids eventually have a close encounter with either one, and as many of our expert (parenting sure makes you an expert)parent friends have pointed out, their kids grow out to be normal. So I could go on writing about this for ages so I'll just pinpoint some important things. Children grow, some grow earlier (especially girls)others grow late. There are growth tables, but a mother can always tell better when her kid starts growing. The important thing about these habits is to be sure that your kid has left them behind during these periods, specially after 6 or 7 years of age. After that thumbs and pacifiers become the most wonderful orthopaedic instrument and then they might be the cause of some deformity like open bites. Don`t worry, most kids have left them behind by that age (if yours doesn't, call me back in six or seven years!). Finally in my experience it's always easier to get rid of a pacifier than it is with the thumb (thumbs are open 24 hours a day!), so yes mabye you'll have to get up in the middle of the night, or having to worry weather you kid has shared his pacifier with the dog or other amazing things that happen (believe me you don't want to know, but most kids in the world survive these happenings). Also "pacifier kids" tend to leave them much earlier than "thumb kids". I've had 12 or 13 year olds sucking on their thumbs, but I've read of kids up to 18 years old who have to sleep while sucking them! Those are extreme cases. On the other hand, that will never happen with a pacifier. You'll almost never see a kid in elementary school having a pacifier habit. If you have (or anyone else) any more especific doubts, don`t hesitate on asking. I'll be glad to send the information.
By the way, anyone remember Alex Whitehouse? (Not you George!) He's sure nobody remembers him so he won`t write.
¡Well, it's good to be back!

Cindy: Yes, I can get three kids, AND their stuff in the van! Actually, it will hold 5 kids, and some days, that isn't enough room. Don't think I could do a suburban - too big for me to park! I'm not a car person, so my only criteria to my husband, when picking out a car, was I wanted a door on each side, and lots of cup holders. We ended up with a Pontiac Montana, with one of those automatic doors (LOVE it!). It's supposed to be one of those "cool" vans, for the rugged type who need the people space, but still want to be hip and sporty. Let's face it - it's a van. Got to admit it though, I like it! Guess that makes it official - I'm a mom in the 'burbs...yikes!

And Marcie - you're right, one you go "van", you can't go back!

Wow, it is great to be back on. Hello to Marlene, Hellen, Javier A., George, Sammy, Yolanda, Carol, Isauro, Antonio- I am sure to have missed someone that I haven't addressed here, but hello to all of you. So glad you're here!!
Hellen, of course I remember you. I think we may have had Social Studies together with Ms. Van Dusen? I do remember that you smiled alot and everyone liked you.
Cindy and Kelly, I had to jump in on the VAN thing. I have had two full sized vans since having children. I got rid of the first one when I almost ran a lady off the expressway. It scared me half to death. I was then driving a much smaller vehicle, a four door Ford Taurus, and had to get another full sized van to have some space again. I think that they should make big dividers, and like seven individual seats in vans. Everyone has their little area and everyone is happy :-) We have done many long trips and the more space the better!!
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY FERNANDO!! We are all looking forward to hearing the happy news, so keep us posted on the baby.
It finally feels like Summer here in Michigan. The weather is hotter and muggy, and so we decided to do some camping. We have a membership to a campground 'group' in our area. The campground we parked our camper on is only about ten miles from home. Sometimes it seems a little too close because I am still running home or to work everyday from there, but nonetheless, it has been relaxing. We parked there on Saturday morning and will be there for a total of two weeks.
On Friday night my other church youth group leader and I took fourteen teenagers to an all night lock-in at a place called Kokomos. The whole place was full of teenagers from church youth groups. It was so much fun. They have a miniature golf course (18 holes) that is beautiful. We also enjoyed all night Go-Carts, Laser Tag, arcade games, an indoor dome with basketball, volleyball and soccer. This group of kids we took there were awesome. We had alot of laughs and they kept me up all night!! If you all are ever in Saginaw, MI, you need to (call me first!) go there.
I hope that every one of you are taking the time to enjoy yourselves. Take Care!!

Fer: get sleep while you can!!...The "ball" a que te refieres se usa frequentemente en physioterapia para ejercio y para tratar de relajar los musculos de la espalda. Besides, if you wife is boucing on the ball during labor it will be hard for her to throw something at you and blame you for all of her pain!!! My husband, Trent, and I where giddy during our lamaze classes and allmost got kicked out--we where quoting Austin Powers latest movie--don't ask why--it's something about those classes that makes you want to laugh....And don't let her fret about a C section if it happens--I recovered a lot quicker than they say...

Marlene: for fin!!! Cuentanos de to vida, tus papas, tus hermanos, tus hijos, tu marido!!! I have fond memories of visting your grandmother in la cuidadela and hanging out at your club. Remember playing the game "Operation" until 2 am?

Anaceci, Carol, Tonio, Sammy, John, all all of those whom have shared their "chupe" vs. "thumb" wars, Gracias!!.I just took Alessandra to her grandmothers house and we lost one of our chupes, and like Tonio, I was panicked. She won't take any other chupe besides this special one that I got from her from the hospital.. On the other hand, her thumbs are beginning to abduct (she can stick them out a bit), but instead of sucking her thumb, I find her sticking BOTH fists in her hand at the same time!!--I agree, AnaCeci, on the night thing--que lio!!. During the day when she falls asleep she allows the chupe to dangle from her mouth like a forgotten cigarette.. She is all smiles now when she is awake and I find it hard to get things done because all I want to do is watch her smile!!

John B: dame tu telefono!!--

TO ALL:fiesta at the Miller Petrinovic's on Sept 16--all are invited!! We should have some old AHSers there, so if anyone is in the Denver area, let me know...We are having it catered, so we need people to RSVP!! If anyone can make it, call or e-mail at tmckpm@idcomm.com and bring your tequila drinking shoes and hats!!!

Kelly S: Is your minivan big enough for 3 kids? We have had some of our friends go to a Suburban and still find it's not big enough for the kids and all of their toys!!! I took more stuff to my mom's house (nursing pillow, bouncy seat, etc) I hardly had any room for my stuff!

Fer: when the baby comes could you please have the decency to let us know as soon as possible? And the adrenaline rushes will continue and increase in number from now on. Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride.

Gotta go, bye

Thanks to one and all for your kind B-Day wishes. I actually worked like any other normal day, but got together with some friends for dinner that evening (not too much partying though, cuz I must at all times consider Nathalie’s situation!)

At 4 a.m. last night I got a good scare when Nathalie told me she thought it was time to go to the hospital, but then she went back to sleep (go figure!), so I decided it could not be that urgent and went back to sleep my self. In any case, talk about an adrenaline rush!! Today she is at her doctor’s office for a scheduled checkup, and will see what the doctor says.

Other than that this weekend the formula 1 races here in Germany. The racetrack is about 1½ hours away from where I live. Not that I am going to go see it, but since I am running out of things to say I just thought I’d mention it.

Well till next time, keep the messages coming

Edited by author 07-26-2000 02:07 AM
Hey! Feliz cumpleanos Fer! How old are you now, 27 or something?

 So... how do we go about getting a 20 year class of 81 picture gazzette? I would like to invite the class of 80 and the class of 82 to be in that gazzette as well? Que opinan?

John B. good to hear from you, I thought you had disappeared!

To all: I care very much about you and I am praying for you.
Con afecto,
Alex Loya

Hola a todos,
Sammy, te acabo de dejar un mensaje y estoy proponiendo la fecha del 6 de agosto para una pachanga en mi casa en SF. Todavia no le he dicho nada a mi esposo hasta que confirmemos. Todos los que residan en la area de la bahia estan bienvenidos "en famille". Llamenme al 713-2356.
Felipe L. - No sabia que estabas en SF! Let's get together - see above.
Ana Ceci - De casualidad estarás en SF el 6 de agosto? Espero que si. Me encantaría verte.
John Pike - You sure are elusive, Sammy and I tried to get in touch with you about 5 years ago for an AHS get together in SF, but all I heard was "I think John Pike lives in the Bay Area!"
Isauro - Ya se que nos hemos comunicado anteriormente por email. Felicidades por tus esfuerzos como jinete. Me encanta montar a caballo, pero me siento much más cómoda en una silla estilo western que a la inglesa.
Javier, estoy contando los dias para salir en el "Outward Bound". Igual acabo como tu cuñado y me quedo en las montañas sin regresar a la civilización.
A todos, mis mejores amigas de todo el mundo - Cindy F. y Dina B. estan en la página de información que Dale Reed comenzo como personas de contacto para nuestra reunion. Cindy esta como Cindy Seymour, y no se cuantas gentes la conozcan por su nombre de casada. Lo chistoso es que creo que ninguna de las dos tienen idea de que estan alli como "contacts". So contact them and give them a surprise!!!
Fernando - Happy Birthday, keep up the silliness. I just have one word for you as a parent: BOUNDARIES!
Marlene - Last time I saw you we were both on a plane to Mexico City and I think you were about to get married. How are your brothers? Saludamelos de mi parte. Next time I'm in Cabo I'll look you up.
Hellen, estoy segura que no has cambiado para nada. Ya nos veremos el año que entra.
Elena R. - was reading about you in the chat room for the class of '80. Soooo, what was your "game" about? (-:
OK cyber people, thanks for explaining <LOL>, but what does <G> mean?!?!
Until next time - Yolanda

Fer. happy b-day. We should start a b-day list! Not that I will be EVER over 30!

Isauro, bienvenido!

Javi- no puedo creer que seas arquitecto en SF.es como de pesadilla no? I had my share of Architecture in Forestville, CA. I still dream the word "CODE"!

John. engargolado is when you put that plastic ring to hold pages together?

Carol, mandame fotos de Joseph.

FELICIDADES SHELLEY! Baby boy! Jeremy. Real cute.

Cindy, Go for the finger! (sin albur). Everybody told us that it is easier to let go of the pacifier, but when they wake up 15 times at night because the chupon fell off and they can't find it, it drives you nuts!

Sammy, le voy a pasar el chat de '82 a Memo mi hermano.

I was very happy today to receive a note from Coach Blaise! Thank you Steve,

Have a nice week.

Thanks Carol and John for your welcome. Javi te puedes comunicar con Richie Salinas y Manuel Amieba para darles la informacion de su class discussion group? Anyone who knows people from the class of '82, let them know it's set up. If it already exists in some other format or place, my apologies.

There's a new instant discussion space at Quick Topic(SM) for
the topic "AHS Class of '82". To join the conversation (or just
to read it), use your browser to go to:

http://www.quicktopic.com/3/H/4jbhaM4YVKJ1Msq835a

Hello Everyone!

It's been a while since I've posted anything on here. Actually, just caught up from a couple of months ago and I must say, most of you have been pretty busy on here. It has taken me a couple of hours to catch up, and I'm glad this hasn't died but started rolling pretty heavy.

Marcie: As Jennifer said, Brent is a police officer. He was actually my best man for my wedding eleven years ago. At the time, he was just starting as a police officer in Santa Barbara, but I shortly lost contact with him after my wedding. Glad to see that he's still at it.

Sammy: Still "purple and clairvoyant?" Glad to hear from you! RE: Lisa Hojel -- My wife and I visited her during our honeymoon. At the time she was married and just had a daughter. Lost contact with her shortly thereafter (running theme <G>). I know that one of her brothers has been in contact with my sister so I'll check with her and see if she can find out more.

Cindy: I'm starting to get a big craving for carnitas so we might just have to make an outing here really soon. How are things with Alexa going? RE: Thumb sucking -- Bronte currently uses most of her hand (yes, such a nice little lady with her fist in her mouth). One thing though, she does not like a bottle or a pacifier. No nipple confusion here.

Fernando: Glad to see I wasn't the only one goofing off during the birthing classes. Everyone else was taking it so seriously and my wife and I had a blast. Not that we weren't paying attention, but we did have fun. We actually have one of those huge inflatable exercise balls, and we use it as our office chair. We still bounce on it, but have learned how to stay on it <g>. Happy belated B-Day to you (and everyone else here -- should cover me for another year, no?).

Sue S.: Good to hear from you. Say, you wouldn't still have the original print of "Jungle Man" would you? My heart and admiration goes out to you raising two children on your own.

Anacecilia & Ramon: Sent you two an email. One more recommendation -- for the main event/dinner, how about making 6p - 10p available to family, and 10p - whenever for adults only? That way those who may not want to leave there children with a hotel babysitter can attend all the events. Just another thought... BTW Anacecilia, what is an "engargolada?"


Javier: Hello there. One question...is there still undeveloped real-estate in San Francisco? I wish you the best with your new business. May you never run out of sky.

Well, time for me to finally get to bed. I hope to drop a note or two once in a while.

Ciao desde Colorado.

Edited by author 07-22-2000 05:07 PM
Howdy everyone! I want to say hi to the new members of the discussion group: Isauro, Sammy, Javier, Morna, Philip and Marlene. I continue to enjoy the comments posted by all of you.

Hey, in case not enough has been said about pacifiers: My son Joseph (almost 3) started seeing his dentist at 2. The dentist cautioned me to try to ease Joseph off his "chupi" as soon as I could, but definitely by age 3. He was worried not only about the effects on his front teeth, but also the possiblity of accidents with the chupi in his mouth. I tried and tried and had no success. He was glued to his chupi. One day several months ago, I prayed to God to please give me an opportunity to take the chupi away from Joseph. A day or so later, Joseph was standing on the kitchen table's chair with chupi in his mouth. He took one step and fell of the table face first onto the tile floor. When I picked him up I thought his front teeth would be gone, but all he had was bleeding from his upper gum. At that moment, I picked chupi up and told Joseph that chupi had to go, because I was afraid he would get hurt with it in his mouth. Joseph agreed and only asked for it twice after that. He understoon when I told him he should not use it because he could hurt himself again. I learned a few things from that experience: pray first, not as a last resort. God knows what is best for our children. Oooops, gotta go. Joseph woke up!

Love,

Carol

ISAURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great to hear from you! Super great to hear from you!
Welcome home.
I can't believe you are in Vancouver.
You know I was there in 1991 often. I actually won the Canadian National Championship in waterpolo playing for the Vancouver club and the British Columbia team. "Me piratearon para ganar el torneo (sport politics as usual) junto con el mejor jugador de Canada que era de Toronto."
Que coraje que no sabia que estabas alla.

One more back home. Feels good.

Toño

Que increible que por fin tengo forma de comunicarme con todos. Hace unas dos semanas etuve repasando el "Anahuac" y leyendo los "wills".

Me hablo Javier hoy y que super sorpresa. Tambien hace poco estuve tratando de localizarlo.

Desde que nos graduamos en el '81, estoy viviendo en Vancouver, BC, Canada.

Les envio mas info despues. Por lo pronto, muchos saludos y nos vemos en la reunion del 2001.

Mi e-mail es: isauro@olympichorses.com

(como ven, sigo con la meta de participar en las Olympiadas, y a mi hija Alicia de 2 1/2 le encanta montar. Siempre me dice que vaya mas rapido y que quiere saltar mas alto) Saludos con todo mi corazon y despues pongo fotos.

Que disfruten de cada aliento y que sigan sus vidas llenas de energia hasta el borde!!!

Isauro :=)

Fernando, Canibalito, feliz cumpleanos.........
Que la pases muy bien.